Electricity's Watson Machine

[citfta]

Show us!!

What are you waiting for? Show us your great wisdom. Allow us to be humbled at your feet.

It will be an honor to decipher the great myth, the Watson Generator.

Allow me sometimes to document the replication and provide full disclosure!.

Does anyone believe we will see anything but talk from this person?

[scratchrobot]

If it's one thing I hate most, it's when forums are moderated in favor of someone. Electricity makes valid points and keeping them off the convention thread is a cheap move. I'm skeptic about Bedini's technology for numerous reasons but for one it's that heavily moderated Yahoo forum which makes it even more suspicious. Every time I read a thread were someone questions Bedini, the Bedini clan attacks.

The kits and instructions are cloudy as hell. You're told there's only one way to build it and if you don't get results theres a million problems it could be. Of course selling it at your own risk for experimental purposes is the perfect marketing scheme cause there's no one to blame but the person who built it.

Then last week for the first time I watched Energy From The Vacuum documentary where Bedini mentions 18:1 battery power, outfitting submarines and so on. I don't know about that crap.

And lastly Tesla was a genius but the worlds greatest fool for never discovering the power of politics. If there was no internet, Bedini would end up being a recluse too. I'm with electricity about those who don't share their ideas either have none or will go to their grave with it.

On a side note I recently purchased an 8 bifilar coil (twisted wires) and the coil looked like it came off the floor with sticky tape all over it and the wires weren't even twisted nicely like the coils on Bedini's 10 coiler. No pride at all, just whip it up and ship it.

I'll only believe OU or COP 1+ when the others can replicate it.

Ecoman

Exactly what i'm thinking, I have seen it happening here before, maybe it is time for a new wave of Free Energy developers.

[chasson321]

Aaron and I have had our differences and probably still do. However, you can find him in the company of John Bedini, Rick Fredrick, Peter Lindemann, Jeff (Bits) and others like minded individuals. I have held John and Rick in high regard for three years now and have come to see and learn from others lately the contributions of Peter Lindemann.

I went to the Renaissance Conference. I saw the working machines and circuits. I talked with John, Rick, Peter and Jeff. You can see in them their passion and dedication to this field of endeavor, despite the attacks on their character.

I don't have to wait and see if this works. I know it does.

@ Aaron,
Keep up the good work. I did not want there to be any friction at the conference so I stayed away from you. You were busy enough without having to deal with personal matters. Maybe, we will meet later. I wish you sucess in your pursuits.

Tim Johnson
chasson321

[Ecoman11]

Aaron and I have had our differences and probably still do. However, you can find him in the company of John Bedini, Rick Fredrick, Peter Lindemann, Jeff (Bits) and others like minded individuals. I have held John and Rick in high regard for three years now and have come to see and learn from others lately the contributions of Peter Lindemann.

I went to the Renaissance Conference. I saw the working machines and circuits. I talked with John, Rick, Peter and Jeff. You can see in them their passion and dedication to this field of endeavor, despite the attacks on their character.

I don't have to wait and see if this works. I know it does.

@ Aaron,
Keep up the good work. I did not want there to be any friction at the conference so I stayed away from you. You were busy enough without having to deal with personal matters. Maybe, we will meet later. I wish you sucess in your pursuits.

Tim Johnson
chasson321

Does this sound like passion to you? From Rick on an earlier thread.

"We only had 350-370 people coming in, maybe 340 paid, so I'm
not doing this again as there is obviously little interest and I am now out $50k
for that."

Little interest or little money Rick? If you made 50k would you come post that here too? I didn't think so.

Ecoman

[ashtweth]

@All,
Look, I don't want any of your silly hyped Free Energy Machine, as every single one that makes such claim demands exclusive agreement of some sort with outrageous monetary investment, yet mostly all that invest RARELY do produce useful devises to produce useful real world work. We have all seen the Kits that can power LEDs, I have replicate numerous devices, some I make correction to the error and produce excessive E.

I care not for your finding, as you are all material mongering entities. Haven't you learned anything from Tesla?.

Give, If you claim you have, make the world a better place and disclose your supposedly finding openly with no strings attached.

There's a new wave of Free Energy developers, and I am riding that wave high. And we do it for the love of Humanity.
And I'm done with this forum.

I will only come back at a later date to post FREE REAL WORKING decises that anyone can replicate Easily.

Now that's Free Energy.

[chasson321]

These guys run on a shoe string budget. You can't spend what you don't have.

Does this sound like passion to you? From Rick on an earlier thread.

"We only had 350-370 people coming in, maybe 340 paid, so I'm
not doing this again as there is obviously little interest and I am now out $50k
for that."

Little interest or little money Rick? If you made 50k would you come post that here too? I didn't think so.

Ecoman

[electricity]

Fight for Freedom

Ok guys, thanks for your support.

Here's the schematic. Watson - Freedom 1.0

There's still lots of improvements to make. The motor input will need to be reduced, and also adjust the Flywheel mass for optimum efficiency. I am targeting speeds of 2500 to 4000 rpm. I am testing a PWM driver, any suggestion will be helpful.

Bedini says that it runs on a Bell Curve so it must be at the top of this curve at the correct speed. He also suggests a brushless motor and a non- magnetic shaft that is very important. With a variable speed drive, we can find the sweet spot for maximum P production.

I will make 2 builds of the G-field generator, one with Naudins original Bi filar and another with Tri-filer wound coils.

Thanks all for your support.

[Aaron]

@Ecoman

If it's one thing I hate most, it's when forums are moderated in favor of someone. Electricity makes valid points and keeping them off the convention thread is a cheap move. Please think about what you're saying because it makes no sense. I started this thread JUST FOR ELECTRICITY to show what he says he has. Moderated? He has the floor in this thread to prove his point, which I think is quite the opposite of "moderation." And what do you think about someone that will give you an opinion of a movie that just came out but they never actually saw it? Don't tell me that would make any kind of sense at all. That is what negative criticism of the conference is EXACTLY when someone didn't attend.

I'm with electricity about those who don't share their ideas either have none or will go to their grave with it. There were working "overunity" machines at the conference, but what would you know if you didn't go... not just small machines but one with a 230+ pound rotor turning without drawing current from the batteries.

I'll only believe OU or COP 1+ when the others can replicate it. My refrigerator is made by Whirlpool and is a COP of probably 2.5-3.0 or so as almost every refrigerator is....they have replicated MILLIONS of these devices (refrigerators) over the years as GE and many other companies have. So, why aren't you excited about that? If you don't know that a refrigerator is over 1.0 cop, then your opinions on the matter are not even qualified. Perhaps you need to first learn to even know how to recognize what you're looking at before you badmouth something. p.s. There is no such thing as OU unless the clock is running backwards. There is however over 1.0 cop and if you learned the difference, you'll be one step ahead.

@ Ecoman ^^^

[electricity]

Day 2 - Sourcing common parts.

Day 2 - Sourcing.
This machine will be build with Off the shelf parts that anyone can obtain easily and inexpensively, except for a few thing.

Major components:

Effecient DC motor. I got one off a Xerox Commercial copier. There are many alternatives. I also have another larger motor from a HE LG washing Machine.
Look around, they are everywhere, these are DC perm magnet motors.

Pulleys:
Found a nice 10" pulley inside my small Ryobi bandsaw, I also salvages 10 assorted size pulleys from a small ridie on lawn mower. An interesting thing about belt drive. They need no lubrication and minimal maintenance. They have high efficiency usually 95%, high tolerance for misalignment, and are inexpensive if the shafts are far apart.

It's amazing to see all those BW photos of Industrial Revolution workshops cranking away at those slip belt driven machines, maximizing every drop of Horse Power with huge mass flywheel,

Man, they were super efficient by our today's standard, we're spoiled by Tesla's AC motor an exploited by the PTB with low efficient machines.

Anyone ever spun a large flywheel to speed and observe gained momentum?.


FLywheel.
I got a good assortment of weight lifting plates, from 2-50 lb.

The amount of momentum of an object is proportional to the object's mass, and to the velocity. Multiplying those two factors gives the momentum. In notation:
p = mv
where p is the sign for momentum.

to be continued.

[citfta]

Sorry, wrong answer!

If you don't know that a DC permanent magnet motor is the absolutely worse choice for a drive motor then you have no hope whatsoever to make a Watson machine.

[electricity]

The contagious Mind Virus

If you don't know that a DC permanent magnet motor is the absolutely worse choice for a drive motor then you have no hope whatsoever to make a Watson machine.

Geesh cifta, Are ya'll Senior Eenergetic Forumers closed box linear thinkers?.

I had expected positive contributions from here, fisrt Ash with his Orbo indoctrinated views now you.

I get more support from conventional forums, Heck HAWT back yard builders guys have made breakthroughs in efficiency with common DC motors.

They even have working Newman coil motors with usable torque at minimal E expense.

Is it just me or are ya'll infected?

[Jbignes5]

Ha...

If you don't know that a DC permanent magnet motor is the absolutely worse choice for a drive motor then you have no hope whatsoever to make a Watson machine.

Care to explain the Dyson digital motor with neodymiums. Let the man work here.

[electricity]

Day 2 - DIY parts

Just a quick update.

Lots of work to squeeze into constant time. I have gathered pretty much everything that is needed except for laminate sheets of soft iron - transformer core. I do have a few large transformers so I'll have to find a way to seperate and reuse those iron. Any suggestion?.

I rigged up a wooden frame to test the motor/ flywheel. I could not get high rpm - frame not sturdy. So I'm welding a rigid angle iron frame with amble spacing. Drive motor will be spaced far from Fluxgate generator <-- better name. This will avoid any EMF interference, I also learned that a slightly loose belts gains excess momentum at high rpm.

Picture to follow.

[John_Bedini]

It's not as simple as you think poor Watson

It's not as simple as you think, ask me I invented it and if I did not you would not even know about Watson. I have said many times free is not free. So when your walking around with holes in your shoes and your family is starving then tell us how great it is, your not even close yet and have nothing to show us.

Tesla did not even give any free energy machine, yes he talked about it but you did not see it. We have given many years to this work, so I think we could find a marble rolling around in your head that just can't seem to find the right hole to fall through. Talk about ungrateful.
John B

@All,
Look, I don't want any of your silly hyped Free Energy Machine, as every single one that makes such claim demands exclusive agreement of some sort with outrageous monetary investment, yet mostly all that invest RARELY do produce useful devises to produce useful real world work. We have all seen the Kits that can power LEDs, I have replicate numerous devices, some I make correction to the error and produce excessive E.

I care not for your finding, as you are all material mongering entities. Haven't you learned anything from Tesla?.

Give, If you claim you have, make the world a better place and disclose your supposedly finding openly with no strings attached.

There's a new wave of Free Energy developers, and I am riding that wave high. And we do it for the love of Humanity.
And I'm done with this forum.

I will only come back at a later date to post FREE REAL WORKING decises that anyone can replicate Easily.

Now that's Free Energy.

[John_Bedini]

This is not a Watson machine

Good luck with this as it was never done by me or Watson
JB

Ok guys, thanks for your support.

Here's the schematic. Watson - Freedom 1.0

There's still lots of improvements to make. The motor input will need to be reduced, and also adjust the Flywheel mass for optimum efficiency. I am targeting speeds of 2500 to 4000 rpm. I am testing a PWM driver, any suggestion will be helpful.

Bedini says that it runs on a Bell Curve so it must be at the top of this curve at the correct speed. He also suggests a brushless motor and a non- magnetic shaft that is very important. With a variable speed drive, we can find the sweet spot for maximum P production.

I will make 2 builds of the G-field generator, one with Naudins original Bi filar and another with Tri-filer wound coils.

Thanks all for your support.