Electricity's Watson Machine

[sunboy]

Watson Machine who is the invention? inventor of the prototype can provide a successful show or video?

[wrtner]

Electricity,
The mystery is none as it is right in front of you. I will give it to you again.

The machine requires [COLOR="Red"]one DC motor, 555 timer circuit for pulses to chop the DC motor, one mono pole energizer and one large mass weight wheel....

How does one specifiy this flywheel?

I suppose the moment of inertia is a function of the amps of the pulse
going into the motor and maybe the duration of that pulse as well.

[D Fitzgerald]

How does one specifiy this flywheel?

I suppose the moment of inertia is a function of the amps of the pulse
going into the motor and maybe the duration of that pulse as well.

I saw the black and white picture about 2/3 of the way down this page:
20  Bedini
of the machine in question. He is using a flywheel with a diameter about three times bigger than the diameter of his motor. It is made of steel. This could be a starting point.

[wrtner]

He is using a flywheel with a diameter about three times bigger than the diameter of his motor. It is made of steel. This could be a starting point.

Interesting thinking. My starter motor is about 3" diameter.
This would suggest a flywheel at 9" diameter. Not very big.

I wonder if there is a square law going on here. There often is.

[dragon]

It may not be the diameter in particular, it might be more related to the mass. It's most likely more related to matching the pulsed power of the motor to the mass so they work together.

[Turion]

From what I understand there are two distinct ways of accomplishing the objective.

The first is to take a pulsed motor, a flywheel, and a generating device that has no drag because its coils are NOT wound in series, in other words, something like a Bedini multiple coil energizer. The motor would require a wound rotor and stator so that it will freewheel during the off pulse, with no attraction or repulsion between the rotor and stator (according to Dr. Peter Lindemann, and he has posted that requirement at one time or another). The schematic for this is in the Free Energy Generation book. In there John Bedini gives a circuit for pulsing the motor. He may even mention the KIND of motor. I would have to reread it, but I vaguely remember something about that.

The second method is to take a modified motor (As discussed in the Linderman/Lockridge Device thread) coupled with a flywheel and a 120 volt or more DC motor used as a generator. (Dr. Lindemann discussed how and WHY the Watson Device, the Lockridge Device and the Bedini device described in Free Energy Generation are basically the same thing at the conference, and on his new DVD)

The optimal solution would be to combine the highly efficient motor (described by Peter Lindemann in the above mentioned thread) coupled with a Bedini style Energizer and a flywheel. Not a huge flywheel as people seem to think, but one that will smooth out the motor. The flywheel on the Watson device was HUGE, but that was because of the torque of the motor he was using. A standard motor doesn't NEED that huge flywheel.

But I thought Electricity said he had solved the Watson Machine issue????? He was only minutes away from sharing his solution with the world, wasn't he??? I keep waiting for that to happen.

[wrtner]

What I don't know how to do is wire in the pieces that would control the switches I need to turn on and off at specific times, and what optical device to use on my external commutator...

It doesn't have to be an optical device. Patrick K suggests one of them
in his write up on the Charles Flynn device - see page 16:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter1.pdf

The Robert Adams motor in chapter 2 has a similar need.

Alternatively, you could use a Hall effect device and a magnet on the
rotor, or even mechanical brushes. What speed do you imagine the
rotor wold go at?

Paul-R

[Bizzy]

It may not be the diameter in particular, it might be more related to the mass. It's most likely more related to matching the pulsed power of the motor to the mass so they work together.

Good morning
From what I have been reading a flywheel works best if the weight is concentrated away from the center axel, and the the more weight and the further away from the axel, the better.
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For my trigger arms the weight is concetrated at 16 inches from the center and weighs 15 pounds
The main magnet rotor will be four feet in diameter and function as an additional flywheel
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

pulse trigger for Watson machine

On the main shaft there are two 16 inch arms with 8 neodium magnets on each end. These act as a 15 pound flywheel. When the shaft moves the magnets over the coils it produces between 2.3 amd 3.95 volts which is enough to trigger the mosfet which closes the circuit and allows the motor to be pulsed.
When the magnets pass out of range of the coils the volatge drops to about 1.3 volts and the mosfet opens the circuit.
because there are two sets of magnets opposite each other it produces two pulses per shaft revolution
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

pulsed trigger for a Watson machine

I didn't want to use a reed switch to pulse the motor becuase they burn out too quickly and hall effect chips are too tempermental. So i decided to use something more durable and simpiler.
During my work with VAWM I was able to improve my alternator and bearing system which eventually led me to this design.
I will post pictures of my trigger arm and coils either tonight or tomorrow.
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

wound field motor

In one of electricty's earlier posts he mentioned that he was using a permanent magent motor. However while I was still in the early stages of building the trigger arms, I was doing some reading about Watson's machine and i read where Watson didn't use a PM motor but used a wound field motor so there would be no back draw( FROM LENZ' LAW) when the power is shut off between pulses.
Ash and Caroll both confirmed that so I found a small wound field motor to use. However the motor isn't strong enough, I loose rpms and the bigger wound field motors are TOO big.
So in talking with Caroll again he helped me confirm that wound field motors are the same as a brushed commutator motor. That opens up more possabilities of unit to buy.
Actually I just spoke with my wife and she said the new motor is in the budget!!! So when I get the new motor I'll let you the size and how well it works
Thanks
Bizzy

[wrtner]

On the main shaft there are two 16 inch arms with 8 neodium magnets on each end. These act as a 15 pound flywheel. When the shaft moves the magnets over the coils it produces between 2.3 amd 3.95 volts which is enough to trigger the mosfet which closes the circuit and allows the motor to be pulsed.

It is always good to remind everyone that the pulse to the motor MUST be
out of step with the pulse from the energiser to the battery. This is crucially
stated in John B's FEG document.
Paul-R

[citfta]

Hi again Bizzy,

I hope I didn't confuse you. A wound field motor is a brushed commutator motor. However a brushed commutator motor could be a PM or wound field motor. Kind of like a wife is a spouse but a spouse could be a wife or husband. If the description of a motor says wound field you know you are ok, but if it says brushed commutator you may or may not be ok.

In one of electricty's earlier posts he mentioned that he was using a permanent magent motor. However while I was still in the early stages of building the trigger arms, I was doing some reading about Watson's machine and i read where Watson didn't use a PM motor but used a wound field motor so there would be no back draw( FROM LENZ' LAW) when the power is shut off between pulses.
Ash and Caroll both confirmed that so I found a small wound field motor to use. However the motor isn't strong enough, I loose rpms and the bigger wound field motors are TOO big.
So in talking with Caroll again he helped me confirm that wound field motors are the same as a brushed commutator motor. That opens up more possabilities of unit to buy.
Actually I just spoke with my wife and she said the new motor is in the budget!!! So when I get the new motor I'll let you the size and how well it works
Thanks
Bizzy

C ya, Carroll

[Bizzy]

Hi again Bizzy,

I hope I didn't confuse you. A wound field motor is a brushed commutator motor. However a brushed commutator motor could be a PM or wound field motor. Kind of like a wife is a spouse but a spouse could be a wife or husband. If the description of a motor says wound field you know you are ok, but if it says brushed commutator you may or may not be ok.




C ya, Carroll

Hi Carroll
Ok no problem, I can call before I order and confirm it is a wound field motor.

On another note How can i down load pictures to this site. I think they are too big at 2MG...do you know of a way to get change or adapt them to put here on the forum?
thanks
Bizzy

[citfta]

Loading pictures

Hi Bizzy,

I am not an expert on loading pictures. Most of mine have been small that I have uploaded to this forum. I think for large pictures most of the people on here use one of the web based storage sites and then just add the link to their post. That way you don't run out of storage space on this forum. Maybe someone else can tell you the best way to do that.

I have a program that came on my computer called Microsoft Digital Image starter edition that lets me save my drawings into different formats and that usually changes the size to something will work on this forum. Of course you lose some resolution doing that so you may not want to do that with some pictures where close detail is needed.

Later, Carroll