Electricity's Watson Machine

[Bizzy]

Why not run it through a resistive load and measure the volts and amps?

Hi Wrtner
I will do that eventually I simply havent gotten that far yet.
Right now I am more concerned about if the 12 volt battery can take the 37 volt charge.
Thanks
Bizzy

[wrtner]

Hi Wrtner
I will do that eventually I simply havent gotten that far yet.
Right now I am more concerned about if the 12 volt battery can take the 37 volt charge.
Thanks
Bizzy

I don't honestly know. I know the Bedini folk pump 1000v into theirs,
but they are very short pulses.

I have asked some exotic people who are working on new battery
technologies. Let's see if they can help.

Paul-R

[Bizzy]

I don't honestly know. I know the Bedini folk pump 1000v into theirs,
but they are very short pulses.

I have asked some exotic people who are working on new battery
technologies. Let's see if they can help.

Paul-R

Hi Paul
Actually I just ran some tests and I got 3 amps under load.

WOW if they are getting 1000v even at a pulse without doing any damage to the battery i should hopefully be able to feed a mere 37 into mine.

I did try feeding the alternator directly into the battery my voltage dropped down from 37 volts to 13.46 (Lenz Gesetz) However I placed a large 35 volt capacitor in series between my rectifier and the battery which brought my voltage back up to 34.
Naturally when I hooked it up to the battery there was also a significant slowing of the speed. Unfortunately I dont have an acurate way of measuring speed. Just my old homemade speedometer I made for my windmills. But the slowing was definately noticable. However when I but the capacitor in series my speed increased along with the voltage.


I only let the motor run for a few minutes before I shut it down so I dont know if it would have damaged the battery or not. But from the sounds of it I may be safe. I have a few more tests to run tonight and my wife and I are busy on Friday but hopefully this week I can run some longer durations tests.
Thanks for looking into the battery issue for me, any help you or anyone else can provide would be greatly appreciated.
merci vielmals
Bizzy

[wrtner]

Hi Paul
Actually I just ran some tests and I got 3 amps under load.

That is well over 100 watts (if the voltage stays at 37v).

What power is going into the motor?

[Bizzy]

That is well over 100 watts (if the voltage stays at 37v).

What power is going into the motor?

Hi Paul
It is a 12-24 volt motor that takes 4.3 amps. One of the nice advantages of this design of motor is that I can add multiple coil sets onto the shaft with some but not much rpm loss.
Thanks
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

Prove it by showing a working model that demonstrates the claims

Hi Ronpaul
I actually plan on doing that within the next week or so. As i mentioned earlier this is the busy season for my wife and me.
Stay tuned
Bizzy

[wrtner]

Hi Paul
It is a 12-24 volt motor that takes 4.3 amps. One of the nice advantages of this design of motor is that I can add multiple coil sets onto the shaft with some but not much rpm loss.
Thanks
Bizzy

Is it being run on 12v or 24v?

If you are powering the motor thus, this is not a Watson design.

The Watson (Bedini, really) design requires the motor which should
be field wound (so that there is no drag when the current is off) to
be driven by pulses, possibly from a 555 chip. The flywheel on the
motor's shaft will cause the pulse into the motor to be out of
step with the pulse to the alternator (or energiser), a most
necessary condition.
Paul-R

[Bizzy]

Is it being run on 12v or 24v?

If you are powering the motor thus, this is not a Watson design.

The Watson (Bedini, really) design requires the motor which should
be field wound (so that there is no drag when the current is off) to
be driven by pulses, possibly from a 555 chip. The flywheel on the
motor's shaft will cause the pulse into the motor to be out of
step with the pulse to the alternator (or energiser), a most
necessary condition.
Paul-R

Hi Paul
It has been runing exculsively on 12 volts so far. yes I understanding about the pulse requirements to be a bonafide Watson machine.

My previous work has been on using mosfets for pulsing for just that purpose. In fact a lot of the work can be found in this thread as well as the other thread Mosfets and motors.
My current work involves matching the correct alternator coils with the correct motor. Before I started studying Watson Machines I worked with windmills and did a great deal of work with improving alternators. So now that I hopefully have the correct motor for the task I can better match the alternator to the motor, which is what I am doing now.
Once that is completed I can add what I have learned about pulsing and have an independantly working model.

I know there is no specific diagrams or how-to instructions for Watson's machine so I am adding a lot of what I learned in pulsing and windmills and alternators into this machine. In fact if you look at some of my youtube videos it looks nothing like Watson's Machine. So I don't know if I can call it a true "Watson Machine" More like my version of one. Because of that I have been thinking about starting a seperate thread to show my work so that people won't confuse it with a "true Watson Machine"
Any thoughts or input about starting a new thread for this design or remaining on this thread for simplicity's sake would be greatly appreciated.
merci vielmals
Bizzy

[wrtner]

I know there is no specific diagrams or how-to instructions for
Watson's machine

There is some stuff on the Watson variant of the Bedini device:
BEDINI'S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR
Bedini Free Energy Generator E-Book
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter4.pdf (page 11)

and this thread:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ka-watson.html

Paul-R

[Bizzy]

There is some stuff on the Watson variant of the Bedini device:
BEDINI'S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR
Bedini Free Energy Generator E-Book
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter4.pdf (page 11)

and this thread:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ka-watson.html

Paul-R

Hi Paul
That is a lot of great information. The ebook looks like a thurough how-to desciption. I can't wait to read it!!!!
thanks
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

ebook

good morning everyone


(Paul Thanks again for the information and resources. I am enjoying them very much and am sure they will be a big help in the near future.)

I hate to drag up old arguments but the ebook Paul refered to brings it up again

This thread was origainally started becuase electricty said he could build a Watson machine using a permanent magnet motor. However many others on the site said that a wound field motor is needed. I listened to both sides of of the argument and saw that the wound field side had more convincing ideas and proof so naturally I am now trying to build a Watson machine using a wound field motor....
However in reading the ebook it says thet John Bedini used a permanent magnet motor to build his machine. So now I am confused, which is the correct motor?


Thanks
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

alternator test results

Good morning again everyone
After I posted the test results of my latest alternator tests several people sounded sceptical or atleast curious about them and asked to see a video of the "working model"
Here it is:

bizzybuehler's Channel - YouTube


Just remember this is not a Watson machine YET. It is just part of the alternator I plan on using for my Watson Machine.
Enjoy ....and let me know what you think.
Thanks
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

Looking for help

Good morning
As you can see by my video posting I am producing 40 volts from my alternator, which is more than i need. However I am only producing 3 amps but I need 4.3 to run my motor.

Can anyone provide a circuit I can build to convert some of this voltage to amperage?

Thanks for your help
Bizzy

[elias]

Hi Bizzy,

Thank you for you work.
You cannot charge a battery by using a capacitor in series with you DC output from your alternator. The capacitor will charge up and stay there.

My take on the Watson machine is that it was some kind of Lenzless generator that we are working on the Romero Muller Machine thread.

Elias

[Bizzy]

Hi Bizzy,

Thank you for you work.
You cannot charge a battery by using a capacitor in series with you DC output from your alternator. The capacitor will charge up and stay there.

My take on the Watson machine is that it was some kind of Lenzless generator that we are working on the Romero Muller Machine thread.

Elias

Hi Elias
I was tinkering a bit last night and discovered the exact thing that you mentioned. You are correct the battery is not charging off the alternator with the capacitor in series with it.
I want to run a few more tests this week to study the matter more and hopefully have something more usefull for everyone to examine.

In looking over the diagrams I have on other Watson machines I notice that they are charging the batteries directly from the alternator/recitifier. So i was hoping to reduce the drag on the motor by placing the capacitor in series.

My question here is if I do have electricty flowing into the capacitor why wont it continue down the circuit to the battery?

Thanks
Bizzy