Electricity's Watson Machine

[mbrownn]

Good morning
As you can see by my video posting I am producing 40 volts from my alternator, which is more than i need. However I am only producing 3 amps but I need 4.3 to run my motor.

Can anyone provide a circuit I can build to convert some of this voltage to amperage?

Thanks for your help
Bizzy

Sorry if you have already seen this but I am reading through your thread because FRC told me to take a look.

Take a look at this coil we are about to test on the http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lindemann.html thread

This is the video fun with lcs - YouTube It was posted by Armagdn03

[Bizzy]

An interesting observation

Last evening I was working on my transfer switch. I am still getting some effect from Lenz's law and am convinced it is becuase of arcing across the the switch.
While I was tinkering I recalled something someone mention in the Lockridge thread about trying to capture as much waisted power as possable and re-introduce that back into the system.
With this in mind I tried adding several extra diodes across the motor instead of just the one. (I keep a large supply of diodes becuase I prefer home made rectifiers to store bought) I actaully had 16 diodes across the motor and when I tested it i was surprised to see that my alternator speed actually gained 100 rpms and my test motor gained another 50 rpms. I want to do a few more tests before I show the results of this but I also wanted to pass that along incase someone else had the same idea.
It may very well have been a fluke but it does deserve out for more testing
I would be interested if anyone else has tried this and gotten similar results
Bizzy

[FRC]

Sounds like a great find. More tests could prove this further. Keep up the good
work Bizzy !

George

[Bizzy]

Update

Good afternoon
I wanted to give everyone an update on my research. Last week when I reported using 16 diodes across the the motor and saw better speed. Unfortunately I could not reproduce that again. So I think perhaps it was either a misreading or some residual voltage in a capacitor. But atleast I can say that I tried looking for it again.
This past weekend I was also working on snubbers to reduce arcing across the switch contacts. I able to reducing the arcing slightly(I doubt it can be completely eliminated.) It didn't make any noticable changes in speed of my test motor.
However by putting a snubber from the upper contact on the motor side of the switch to a point between the transfer swicth and the transfer capacitor I was able to stablaize my amperage.
Before I was getting wild amperage reading 1.15-.60 1.11-.35 1.09-.75 However when I use snubber between the motor and the swicth the amperage is more constant and reliable 1.18 -.8

Previously I was certain that there was some arcing which was producing some Lenz effect. However by opening the gap to a maximum amount of the switch swicth i was still getting slowing by 100+ rpms at the alternator. So the only conclusion I can now see is that the charging and discharging of the alternator capacitor is cauing the alternator to slow.


Once i get doen with my capacitor experiments I hope to post another video to show my progress.
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

Update again

I meant to attach a schematic but forgot so here it is...

[Bizzy]

Capacitor studies

Good morning everyone,
This weekend I had a chance to continue my work and I think I have the correct capacitor ratios for the job. They are actually the ones I spectulated on at the begining, but rather than use them at first I needed to study several others and glad I did becuase I learned a lot(Aaron Ill email you later about it)
Anyway The big news that I have is that I am now getting 60% to 80% capacitor to capacitor voltage transfer. Aaron had mentioned that to get 50% voltage from transfering from one cap to the other is good. But the way in which the switch is designed I am getting more. However from the transfer switch to the motor is still poor but i haven't been working on that end of the machine yet.
Any way I wanted to report that and to tell you that I should be posting another video showing my new results by next weekend.
Bizzy

[Aaron]

cap to cap

Aaron had mentioned that to get 50% voltage from transfering from one cap to the other is good.

I don't know if 50% is necessarily good, but is expected. Going through an inductor can be much more. Can see dc to dc converters.

[Bizzy]

Update

Good morning


Transfer Switch.AVI - YouTube


This is part of my continued work in building a Watson Machine. In this video I show the results of a transfer switch that I devolped. The switch helps to bypass the effects of Lenz's law, by isolating the alternator from the motor via a transfer capacitor. When the switch is not triggered the primary capacitor is charged. When the switch is triggered the primary capacitor makes contact with the transfer capacitor and charges the transfer capacitor. When the switch is disengaged the two capacitors break contact while the primary capacitor continues to be charged. Meanwhile the transfer capacitor makes contact with the motor and closes the circuit and as a result runs the motor. The process repeats itself once per revolution.

To recap the results in this test. When the motor was attached directly to the alternator the alternator slowed to 277 RPMs when the motor was hooked up to the alternator using the transfer switch the alternator only slowed to 507 RPMS.
Naturally I am still fine tuning the switch to improve the efficiency of the switch so that there is little or no speed reduction as well as more amperage transfer to the motor.
Let me know what you think
Bizzy

Good morning everyone,
I apologize for not posting an updated video lately February was very hectic. (wine making, tinkering and getting our gardening ready for spring)I do however hope to post a fresh video update this weekend.
In the meantime I want let everyone know that I am making some progress.


If you look at my last video when I ran the motor directly from the alternator the speed of the alternator dropped by 507 rpms. (Lenz's law) And when I used the transfer switch I only lost 277 rpms.

I am pleased to report that after some tweeking and adjustments I now only loose aproximately 118 rpms on the alternator when I engage the switch and run the motor!!!
This is very exciting and I feel I am getting very close to the correct circuit. However I honestly fell I can get that reduction in speed even lower, which is what I continue to work on.

Have a great day
Bizzy

[Gedfire]

Thanks

Electricity,
The mystery is none as it is right in front of you. I will give it to you again.

The machine requires one DC motor, 555 timer circuit for pulses to chop the DC motor, one mono pole energizer and one large mass weight wheel. the two signals are out of phase from each other. and a capacitor tuned to the energizer. That is the mystery. other then that some simple wiring, you wont do it on a small scale. As I said it is right in front of your eyes. It's the way you think about it.

On a big scale it's very easy to work on. simple logic the bigger the generator section is the slower you must turn it. since it is not a conventional generator you must store the charge before you discharge
the capacitors to the batteries. If the timing is right the batteries charge right up to full.

It's your own mind stopping you from success as your own mind understands what your intentions are, that is what is stopping you.
All your questions have been answered for years. Very easy to see that once the machine works we will never here of you again.

Interesting.Thanks for this.

[wrtner]

Electricity,

The machine requires one DC motor ...

Yes, but is it not true, John, that this motor MUST be a
wound field type?

This rules out DC motors with permanent magnets. Also,
car starter motors will take a massive current but have
staggeringly poor bearings (presumably because they
are meant to run for one second at a time).

Where do we look for mass produced inexpensive such motors?

[citfta]

Shunt motor link

Here is a link to some modern shunt type DC motors.

Baldor DC Motors - Available to Buy at Carotron, Inc. Carotron

They have all kinds of motors including shunt type and series type as well as permanent magnet type.

Carroll

[wrtner]

Here is a link to some modern shunt type DC motors.

Baldor DC Motors - Available to Buy at Carotron, Inc. Carotron

They have all kinds of motors including shunt type and series type as well as permanent magnet type.

Carroll

The price of the first one that I enquired about was $3,400.

[citfta]

Another one

Here is another DC shunt wound motor. This one could even be run off an inverter if you wanted to stay with a 12 volt charging system.

Dayton 6K357 Shunt Wound DC Motor 1 2HP | eBay

There are several others on Ebay like a 75 HP one for $999. There are also several surplus places on the net that have all kinds of motors. A lot of them are reasonably priced.

Carroll

[wrtner]

Here is another DC shunt wound motor...

Thanks for this. The key word is "shunt" rather than "wound field".
which is what I have been using. Good to know.

Can you think of a mass produced piece of gear that would use
them? This is the route to good value,

[citfta]

Shunt or Series?

Hi wrtner,

I may have misled you somewhat. A shunt wound motor does have the field coils wound and connected in parallel to the armature or a lot of times controlled independently of the armature. As I understand it the main objective of the motor for the Watson machine is that it not have the drag of magnets when not powered so that it can freewheel between pulses.

There is another type of motor that can do the same thing. And it is mass produced as opposed to the shunt wound motor which is primarily used in industrial machines. The other motor is the series wound motor which still uses a field winding but it is connected in series with the armature. Almost all vacuum cleaners, circular saws, and other hand tools use what are commonly called universal motors. They are called universal because they will run on AC or DC. These motors have the field windings in series with the armature winding and therefore would have no drag when power is off going to the motor. These motors do not have as much torque at low speed as the shunt wound motor but for the Watson machine that shouldn't be a problem as you want to keep the speed up anyway. If you find a motor that runs on AC and has brushes it will most likely be a universal or series wound motor. A router might be a good choice because you can connect to the shaft of the motor fairly easily as compared to a circular saw or vacuum cleaner motor. I hope these ideas have helped some.

Respectfully,
Carroll