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  • #16
    Originally posted by philopolymath View Post
    The real "juice" everyone's chasing is the LEM which runs perpedicular to the "Current" running through the wires.
    E.Dollard dissected and explained and showed us this.
    (Peter may be a genious, but he sucks as a camera man, Hope he has a good sense of humor. I liked when T.Brown gave Eric the speeding ticket from the Relativity police)
    T.Beardon concurs.
    Nature accords this fact.
    Traditional coils are used to separate & INSULATE the LEM from TEM while providing a medium they both may traverse.
    I see so many people striving and acheiving results but don't understand this simple premise. It's NOT your Fathers Electricity we are dealing with here. A degree in Elec.Eng could be a severe handicap.
    Need Translation read D.B.Larson
    BEMF= a cruel joke
    Spontaneous Discharge of a Knife switch = A DEADLY cruel joke.

    Transverse Hetzian=Bad, retarding, limited to light speed,half a banana.

    Longitudinal = +lightspeed+. Juicy,infinate. instantaneous.
    IMHO

    We live in a bathtub of energy and need only expend the energy to pull the plug then suspend a propeller over the hole to tap the flow.
    WHY IS THIS SO HARD?

    I have a degree in EE and it does take a while to go back to basics, which is classic field theory.

    I have a collection of Eric Dollard's work at my website:
    Bestandsoverzicht van /pdf/Eric_Dollard_Document_Collection/

    I have theorized further on Turtur and Dollard's. Based on these, one can go a long way into explaining Stan Meyer / Andrea Puharich's car/motor cycles running on water as well as Edwin Gray's fuelless engine:

    Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

    If the electric field indeed is an energy source, powered by ZPE trough charge carriers as electrons and atom nuclei, then you can use the energy source known as the electric field in various ways. It appears that Meyer, Puharich and Gray all three put some coil configuration into resonance, powered by the electric field without the application of an externally supplied current.


    It appears that Kapagen used bifilar wound coils, one clockwise, one counter-clockwise wound, in order to supress the magentic component of the traveling electric waves. So, it appears one can generate pure electric waves, in contrast to the more familiar electro-magnetic waves. Based on this, I have I have posted some ideas about some new combinations of various ideas floating around on a.o. this forum. See:
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post124533

    Unfotunately, I have not been able to experiment lately, so until I or someone else find some time, these ideas remain untested that may or may not work.

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    • #17
      Once again, I stumbled across a great physic theory resource when looking for Paul Stowe's theories. This page got my attention:

      NUCLEAR STRUCTURE - BASIS OF SHAPE POWER

      Electric charge e, with a value of 1.6029E-19 kg/sec, is the local divergence of the aetheric field and is related to u_0 and e_0 [...] The charge of an electron, the Rydberg constant, and gravitational constant are also derivable from simple fluid mechanics1,2 treatment of the aether. See table 1, page 119, for a summary of the simple relationships of the basic atomic and electrical constants as derived using fluid mechanics and treating aether as a superfluidic particulate medium.

      Analysis of the proton leads to the conclusion that it is also an aetheric torroidal vortex, rotating at velocity c, with a different radius and ring cross section3,4. The proton torroid, when it is broken up, devolves into a substructure which is made of three quarks, also torroids, which spin as a complete whole to form the proton. It is theorized that the quarks are not self-stable particles so dissipate rapidly.
      So, I decided to take a further look, and found these pages:

      UFO physics and UFOs back-engineered
      UFO Physics - Alien technology back engineered -
      by Paul E Potter
      This refers to lots of interesting pages:

      Page and Diagram List
      Viktor Schauberger's utilization of Implosion and its vortical supercharging of air - this design of craft has knocked science sideways. Strictly speaking this is NOT an unidentified flying object, it is merely an as yet un-acknowledged flying object. This type of craft changes the air density above it - to create a low-pressure zone which it simply 'rises' upwards into. It uses minimal fuel expediture creating its own drive forces from normal atmospheric air. Some of this density-differential technology has been used by the ebens.

      METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR GENERATING A DYNAMIC FORCE FIELD
      ,626,606
      METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR GENERATING
      A DYNAMIC FORCE FIELD
      Henry W. Wallace, Ardmore, Pa.

      ABSTRACT OF THE DISCLOSURE

      Apparatus and method for generating a non-electromagnetic force field due to the dynamic interaction of relatively moving bodies through gravitational coupling, and for transforming such force fields into energy for doing useful work.

      The method of generating such non-electromagnetic forces includes the steps of juxtaposing in field series relationship a stationary member, comprising spin nuclei material further characterized by a half integral spin value, and a member capable of assuming relative motion with respect to said stationary member and also characterized by spin nuclei material of one-half integral spin value; and initiating the relative motion of said one member with respect to the other whereby the interaction of the angular momentum property of spin nuclei with inertial space effects the polarization of the spin nuclei thereof, resulting in turn in a net component of angular momentum which exhibits itself in the form of a dipole moment capable of dynamically interacting with the spin nuclei material of the stationary member, thereby further polarizing the spin nuclei material in said stationary member and resulting in a usable non-electromagnetic force.

      UFO Propagation
      UFO Propagation - by Paul E Potter



      fig.1The prime examples of this technology are the aerodiscs detailed in the Andreasson Affair books (see fig.1). The main branches of physics involved are;


      MAGNETOHYDRODYNAMICS

      FLUID DYNAMICS

      ELECTROCHEMISTRY

      VORTICAL IMPLOSION

      ELECTROKINETICS

      PLASMA PROPULSION PHYSICS

      ELECTROPHORETIC THRUSTER
      ELECTROPHORETIC THRUSTER - (TT BROWN 3,296,491)

      In the present invention, the nonuniform fields are divergent fields. The divergent fields may be radial, wedge-shaped or conical. In such divergent fields, the ions are deflected, as well as accelerated, by electrophoretic forces. The effect commonly known as 'ion drag' also imparts momentum to the host medium. In divergent fields, the host medium is additionally influenced by electrohydrodynamic forces and tends to flow in the direction of the divergence. This effect is also known as electrostrictive hydrodynamics…
      Electrokinetic UFO
      Electromotive Vortex Energies

      Along similar lines to electrogravitics, or hydrostatics, (but a little earlier than TT Brown) were the concerted efforts of Viktor Schauberger and German engineers, in the 1940's, when Europe was at war. Since the early 30's Schauberger had been designing various machines that utilized vortex energy and had discovered through vortical hydrodynamics a way to achieve negative-friction in fluid flows, and high-power generation from spirally-rotated fluids. In the late 30's his ingenuity was directed to free energy and levitational flight. By 1945 he had built a series of small (20 cm to 70 cm) prototypes, and had even formulated the mathematics to explain and quantify his results, with which formulas researchers have calculated that the thrust from one of his 20 cm prototypes could lift 228 tonnes (see note 30). In 1945 after yet more development a larger (50 metre) "flying disc’ rose to 15,000 metres in three minutes and flew at 2,200 kph.

      Radio-Wave Controlled Electric Field Drive System
      To understand the principle of my radio-wave controlled electric field drive system, lets first review the basic principles of waves and electric fields.
      VS Implosion
      "The Cycloid-Space-Curve-Motion Cycle of Atomic Transitions - as discovered by the Austrian Physicist Viktor Schauberger"

      Very briefly, Schauberger engineered several types of machines that would create an up-current of axially-spinning air so powerful that the up-current's drag force would speed the whole machine higher and higher into the air. Of the many different types of air turbines he made several of them boasted a thrust force of nearly 10,000 bhp - simply by moving air. Some designers have utilised Schauberger's special turbines for flight and new research suggests that there indeed is a strong case for the continuation and re-establishment of Schauberger's research into these hugely beneficial technologies.

      VORTEX
      Strangely enough mainstream science has more than anything ignored the vortex, Hermann von Helmholtz back in 1858 wrote a mathematical paper on it called "On The Integrals of Hydrodynamic Equations to Which Vortex Motions Conform". Viktor Schauberger made extensive discoveries to do with vortex energy and engineered several over-unity generators (1945). T.J.J.See wrote of stellar vortical movements in his "Wave Theory: Discovery of the Cause of Gravitation" (1938-52). T. Townsend Brown tackled the complex mathemetics to do with the vortical motion of ionised air due to electrohydrodynamic forces around his 'Tri-arcuate Ballistic Electrode' craft (1960). And more recently researchers have discovered that insects (and birds) actually fly by creating vortical motions between their wings and the surrounding air.
      Rose Flying Saucer
      This document is entitled "A Simplified Explanation of The Application of the Biefeld-Brown Effect* to the Solution of the Problems of Space Navigation", it was published by Mason Rose, Ph.D., President University for Social Research in 1952 - and was written by Bradford Shank a nuclear scientist, formerly of Los Alamos National Laboratory.
      EHD - Townsend Brown
      NEW PRINCIPLE OF LIFT
      by T Townsend Brown (circa 1960)

      "In applying the principles of electrostrictive hydrodynamics (electrohydrodynamics) it is immediately clear to the aeronautical engineer that a large electrode area is required. Just as a sailboat uses a sail, any vehicle utilizing electrohydrodynamic propulsion must employ a large ballistic electrode to integrate the pressure of plasma "winds" to provide lift or forward thrust.

      These so-called "electric winds" are ion flows, moving at relatively high velocity.
      Have fun reading / discovering!
      Last edited by lamare; 07-06-2011, 07:47 PM.

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      • #18
        Cool Stuff!!

        Cool Stuff Lamare!!

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        • #19
          Vortex

          Here is a nice video about vortexes.

          VORTEX

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          • #20
            Here's another resource on alternative science by Koen van Vlaenderen, also an electrical engineer living in The Netherlands. I have emailed him, but have yet to study his stuff:

            The secret and the science of unlimited electric energy

            Scalar field theory
            The secret and the science of un
            This theory is a natural generalization of the famous Maxwell/Lorentz theory of electrodynamics. It includes a new type of field which is a scalar function. This field also has energy density, just like the electric field and magnetic field. The scalar field is essential for understanding longitudinal Ampère forces and longitudinal electric vacuum waves through which wireless energy flow is possible, at least in theory. I begin with defining the wave equations for the electrodynamical potentials, as a natural starting point for my theory. It is assumed that electrodynamical potential waves are sourced by electric charges, and have a finite velocity. An infinite high velocity is not considered 'physical'. Longitudinal vector potential waves and scalar potential waves can have a different (higher) velocity than transversal vector potential waves. This is a natural assumption, considering the different velocities for different wave modes in a plasma medium.

            The secret and the science of unlimited electric energy
            Free energy devices

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            • #21
              An Attempt Towards A Chemical Conception Of The Ether by Dmitri Mendeleev

              Mendeleev A Chemical Conception of the Ether

              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • #22
                Introduction to the Propagating Wave on a Single Conductor

                This is also very interesting. It describes the propagation of a certain kind of waves along the surface of a conductor, which appears to come very close to the kinds of waves traveling along the "ground" wire between transmitter and receiver in a Tesla Wireless system:

                http://www.corridor.biz/FullArticle.pdf

                Abstract
                An overlooked solution to the MaxwellHeaviside equations supports the existence of a propagating TM surface wave on coaxial cable as well as on a completely unshielded single conductor [lamare: such as the Earth in Tesla's Wireless Transmission system.]. This nonradiating surface wave mode exhibits attenuation much lower than coax and a relative propagation velocity of unity. It is very broadband and has practical applications from RF through microwave frequencies and beyond. This article introduces this mode, measurements and describes applications. In particular, this article describes the use of the new mode with conventional overhead power lines as a 3rd pipe and solution to the last mile problem.


                [...]

                Summary
                This article has described a previously unknown propagating TM surface wave mode which exists on a single unshielded conductor. Practical transmission lines utilizing this mode were not previously known to be possible. Descriptions of the associated fields and launchers useful for converting between this mode and conventional transmission lines have been provided and the broadband and lowloss nature of this mode has been illustrated through measurements of simple, practical systems. Some applications of this mode, including the use of the existing worldwide grid of overhead power lines for high rate lastmile information transport have been detailed.
                In particular, this discovery allows very inexpensive implementation of wide area information services utilizing the preexisting worldwide power distribution grid. Simple and inexpensive hardware can be installed on a single conductor of these ubiquitous lines and used to create a high capacity “3rd Pipe” for information distribution. The location and rightsofway of these existing power systems allow them to be used simultaneously to provide 3G and 4G user access while they also provides backhaul and other pointpoint information transport. Of particular value, this system can easily be applied for use in SmartGrid energy systems . The reuse of existing lines, rightsofway and maintenance systems allow all of these information services to be deployed and operated at a small fraction of the cost of any other method.
                Last edited by lamare; 07-08-2011, 02:58 PM.

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                • #23
                  Found another great resource on ether theory the other day:

                  The site of Dr. Harold Aspden:

                  AetherScience.org index


                  http://www.aetherscience.org/www-asp.../promotion.htm
                  So we are told that Einstein's theory stands supreme, but where, I ask, is the physics theory that tells us what determines the basic quantum of action in quantum theory and connects this with an account of the physics determining the value of G, the constant of gravitation, and governs also the mass of the basic matter form, the proton? As my book Creation: The Physical Truth explains, that can only come from physics that probes the structure of the aether, the quantum underworld of space, and brushes aside Einstein's doctrinaire principles. Hopefully, there will be those who will now read my new book Creation: The Physical Truth with these thoughts in mind.
                  If you ignore the aether then, by your belief in standard physics teaching, you have forces exerted without there being something to account for that action and that is nonsense.
                  He has a tutorial page here:
                  TUTORIAL LESSONS


                  TUTORIAL 14
                  There was a time when people worshipped the Sun. Their reasons must have had some scientific foundation, just as today's astronomers and cosmologists seek a deeper wisdom by gazing into the heavens. However, in their wisdom, the modern priesthood of science is dedicated to the worship of what has come to be called four-space, in the version according to the Gospel of Einstein. About Time is the name of a book authored by Paul Davies, an ardent believer in the Einstein myth. Paul Davies was a critic who in the 1972 period reviewed my book Modern Aether Science (1972) by saying it was "Physics of Fairyland". He may perhaps have been less scathing had he been called upon to review the book The Einstein Myth and the Ives Papers - subtitle: 'A Counter-Revolution in Physics', (Editors: Dean Turner and Richard Hazelett), published in 1979 by the Devin-Adair Company, Old Greenwich, Connecticut. I quote from page 33 of that work:

                  "To make complete sense out of the existence and behavior of matter and energy in space, we need to be able to understand not only how the ethereal laws work, but why they work."

                  I can only suppose that the very mention of the word 'aether' has, on Paul Davies, much the same effect as waving a red flag at a bull. He has, in his 1995 book About Time, captioned 'Einstein's Unfinished Revolution', at least mentioned the aether by waving it "Goodbye" on page 49 of that work. He relies on the popular belief that the Michelson-Morley experiment proved the non-existence of an aether, even though Einstein's picture of 'space-time' is a picture of an aether seen through spectacles having distorted lenses.

                  Having got that introduction off my mind I will now focus on my task of teaching you why it is that certain particles have longer lifetimes, the faster they travel. I have chosen this topic for two reasons. The theme of 'time dilation' is the science fiction idea that Paul Davies exploits in applying Einstein's theory to build an imaginary picture of past and future cosmic events. It is also intimately related to the primary point which I see mentioned as support for Einstein's theory in a book Imagination and the Growth of Science, which its author, Professor A M. Taylor, presented to me many years ago.
                  I find it hard to belief that anyone could still believe in Einstein's theory after working through this argument, bearing in mind that it relies on quantum electrodynamic principles and quantum electrodynamics has an indisputable claim to much of the territory concerning the physics of the vacuum state.

                  And a nice one for all Tesla fans: TESLA VERSUS EINSTEIN :
                  http://www.aetherscience.org/www-asp...p/2005arp5.pdf

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                  • #24
                    just info transfer from : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...n-wrong-2.html

                    Thank you Lamare for the info

                    I would like to contribute this info:

                    from http://www.energeticforum.com/136213-post19.html

                    Subquantum Kinetics

                    The continuous creation of physical reality from the transmuting ether as portrayed in the subquantum kinetics physics methodology

                    It further proposes that the concentrations of the substrates composing this ether are the energy potential fields that form the basis of all matter and energy in our universe. The operation of these ether reactions causes wave-like field gradients (spatial concentration patterns) to emerge and form the observable quantum level structures and physical phenomena (e.g., subatomic particles with mass, charge, spin, and force field effects and electromagnetic waves).
                    Scientific predictions made by subquantum kinetics

                    Electro gravitics

                    YouTube - TOAFN's Channel

                    and
                    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                    Well,well,well

                    Maye Einstein was not againt Aether at all, but somehow his proponents polluted his ideas. Remember that he had also worked on theory of everything and during that last period of life he was maybe supressed, because he couldn't said anything about it.

                    Einstein's Aether and Relativity
                    thank you boguslaw

                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • #26
                      "It is true," said Mr. Tesla, "that many scientific minds envisaged the theory of a gaseous ether, but it was rejected again and again because in such a medium longitudinal waves would be propagated with infinite velocity. Lord Kelvin conceived the so-called contractile ether, possessing properties which would result in a finite velocity of longitudinal waves. In 1885, however, an academic dissertation was published by Prof. De Volson Wood, an American, at a Hoboken institution, which dealt with a gaseous ether in which the elasticity, density and specific heat were determined with rare academic elegance. But, so far, everything pertaining to the subject wee purely theoretical.

                      Tesla Sees Evidence Radio and Light Are Sound -Apr 8, 1934

                      The Luminiferous æther : De Volson Wood : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

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                      • #27
                        The Philosophical magazine; a journal of theoretical, experimental and applied physics : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

                        Page 414 "On the reflexion and refraction of light" is the article Tesla refers to.

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                        • #28
                          I posted my article on disproving Einstein on Usenet:
                          Einstein relativity theory disproven by Electrical Engineer. - sci.physics.relativity | Google Groups

                          Someone pointed me to this site, which has a lot of critical articles on relativity theory:
                          Englischsprachige Kritik Der Relativitätstheorie | Blog Ekkehard Friebe

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                          • #29
                            A Greek believes that Einstein was wrong and he proves that

                            Here is a link of Mr. Agathagelidis - Greek Physicist
                            Download and read his work at the botom, it proves it by maths but also by experiments that done since today by other scientists
                            Aether exists!!!

                            "Stokes' Aether"


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                            • #30
                              Someone that read my article mailed me this:

                              Hi, I read your comments on Ben Fulford's site about the falseness of relativity theory. I agree with you. Did you know that there is solid physical evidence that ether exists - see Dayton Miller's interferometer experiments and other more recent tangible evidence that there is an ether. Also see Demeo's account of how the original dismissal of ether was false and conducted poorly (the famed Michelson and Morley experiment).

                              Anyway all the references are available at Cosmic Ether-Drift and Dynamic Energy in Space

                              Simply put the evidence shows there is an ether, there is a tangible universal medium. Obviously that is incompatible with Einstein's theories. Incidentally Einstein knew about the existence of life-force through Wilhelm Reich and choose to ignore it.
                              This site appears to be another great resource with lots of references.

                              This one is about Miller's experiments:
                              Dayton Miller's Ether-Drift Experiments

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