Lockridge Device - Peter Lindemann

[Armagdn03]

Ok, I will have to do more studying to understand this, can you walk me through it?

I think the first thing is to find out as much about the motor as possible so that we know what specs this transformer needs as far as current and that we operate the transformer at its optimal level.

I'm not sure about what you said about the rise time of the secondary not exceeding the rise time of the secondary, is this a typo or have I misunderstood?

"if the secondary has a large resistance (impedance) the primary will deliver its energy to the secondary, and will build and build until it reaches a place where it can efficiently deliver to the secondary." Hmm, does this mean that the voltage increase that I put on the source in my circuits may no longer be necessary? If so the coil is providing the voltage increase and also a possible gain or is it more like an amplification where the extra energy is drawn from the source to make up the power?

Have you experienced that the transformer can run a higher voltage motor than the source?

Can you post a schematic of the transformer and associated components?

Sorry to be a pain but I consider you the expert here.

I am sure with yours and garry's help we can establish if this is the trifila coil we seek for the Lockridge device.

I do not know if you are familiar with the maximum power transfer theorem?

If a load has the same impedance as the source, you will transfer the most power possible between the two. If the load and source has different impedance's this will not happen. My signal generator has a particular impedance, the various motors have different impedances, and they change also depending on their speed. The coil system acts to continually bridge the gap and match the impedances so that the condition of the theorem can be met.

This means that if the motor needs higher voltage, lower amperage, the coil system will provide that, if the motor needs higher amperage, lower voltage, the coil system will provide that. Obviously there are limits.

There is no need for a schematic it is very simple,

signal generator to primary, primary is coupled to secondary which is wound bifilar, pick up coil to rectifier and motor, and it is all run at the fundamental resonant point of the secondary.

[mbrownn]

Hi Mike,

Good results from you circuit.

After the initial draw getting up to speed, you would swear the system only
draws ma's.

It looked so good, I went and bought a couple of SS relays but these did not
perform as well as the mechanical type.

Trying to figure how we apply this to a small DC motor - like the one I showed you.

We will speak soon.

Garry

You will always get superior results from mechanical switching but we have to minimize arcing.

I ran a 12v 36w PM DC motor on 12v pulsed with a bipolar relay with my recovery setup and got a similar speed to the motor running on 6v. The interesting thing is the frequency was about 200Hz and the duty cycle about 12%. I didn't get to measure the input current as the relay melted hehe. With the bipolar switching and recovery circuit we loose power if we don't increase the voltage but the input is definitely less. The heat at the contact Was very excessive during pulsing with no recovery, when the recovery diodes were attached the arc reduces significantly and the speed increased but it was all too much for the relay so I am trying to find a better one now.

For the generator we can use a similar power motor that runs at half the speed. Obviously we need as high as efficiency as possible and standard PM motors can be improved with additional magnets as we discussed. Alternatively we build a more efficient design but that is more difficult and expensive.

I think if Armagdn03's coils work as I think they do we have identified all the parts, it will just be a case of working out the timing of the switching and getting the parts in the right order.

Remember that the Lockridge had four switches effectively, I haven't made much of this but I do think it is key. The first pulse will go through the trifilar coil and the motor in series. The inductive kickback is then powering the motor as stage two. Stage three is the power stored in the trifilar coil with its inductive kickback being stage four. This would be four shots of energy from one input. As the recovery from the first inductive kickback has been collected in the source we only need top up that energy from our supply to make the next pulse.

If all this takes up less than one full cycle, say 60% the BEMF generated then becomes forward EMF and we no longer need a generator. This would give us say 20% input 15% inductive kickback, 15% trifilar input and 10 inductive kickback and an output of 40% less efficiency. If our recovery is significant then this would easily put us into overunity.

Can you see how things could come together?

[garrypm]

Hi Mike,

Good results from you circuit.

After the initial draw getting up to speed, you would swear the system only
draws ma's.

It looked so good, I went and bought a couple of SS relays but these did not
perform as well as the mechanical type.

Trying to figure how we apply this to a small DC motor - like the one I showed you.

We will speak soon.

Garry

[mbrownn]

Ok, I will have to do more studying to understand this, can you walk me through it?

I think the first thing is to find out as much about the motor as possible so that we know what specs this transformer needs as far as current and that we operate the transformer at its optimal level.

I'm not sure about what you said about the rise time of the secondary not exceeding the rise time of the secondary, is this a typo or have I misunderstood?

"if the secondary has a large resistance (impedance) the primary will deliver its energy to the secondary, and will build and build until it reaches a place where it can efficiently deliver to the secondary." Hmm, does this mean that the voltage increase that I put on the source in my circuits may no longer be necessary? If so the coil is providing the voltage increase and also a possible gain or is it more like an amplification where the extra energy is drawn from the source to make up the power?

Have you experienced that the transformer can run a higher voltage motor than the source?

Can you post a schematic of the transformer and associated components?

Sorry to be a pain but I consider you the expert here.

I am sure with yours and garry's help we can establish if this is the trifila coil we seek for the Lockridge device.

[Armagdn03]

I had a brief conversation with Armagdn03 but only discussed the basic principals and not details. The coils he used showed no evidence of overunity as I expected but that is not needed for what I think it is doing. He is going to think about what I discussed with him and get back to me. We do need more information as to how to repeat his tests and I am sure he will let us know what we need to know in due time.

1 what is the primary number of turns ?
2 what is the size of the wire?
3 what is the secondary number of turns?
4 what is the size of the wire?
5 Is the secondary coil open circuit, shorted or in an LC circuit?
6 what is the number of turns on the third coil?
7 what is the size of the wire?
8 does placing a core in the coils have an effect?
9 etc etc...

The concept is this,

The secondary is a kinetic storage device, it is a Tesla style bifilar which is heavier on the capacitive end than a standard solenoid.

The number of turns will change with what you are doing.

To figure this out you want to create the secondary first. find its half wave resonance (not quarter because there is no grounded end) Choose a primary inductance (which will determine turns) which has rise time (to do with time constants) which will not exceed the rise time of the frequency of the secondary. Generally a good rule of thumb is 1/5th the turns of the secondary. Same goes for pick up coil.

This is an automatic impedance matching transformer. For example. If the impedance of your motor is great, the secondary resonance will grow larger, and will have a higher peak to peak voltage. This means that it will have a larger field, to affect the secondary, meaning the motor can draw more from it, until it reaches a place of equilibrium.

If the impedance is low, it will draw more off the bat from the secondary, meaning the secondary will have a lower peak to peak resonance, and will again reach a place of equilibrium.

You could view it like this....if the secondary has a large resistance (impedance) the primary will deliver its energy to the secondary, and will build and build until it reaches a place where it can efficiently deliver to the secondary.

To make this a bit better, I would have looser coupling than what is shown on that video between secondary and primary and pickup.

[mbrownn]

Thanks Garry that was an interesting chat, I see we have lots in common.

Ive been thinking about your question on what to do first. I would set up your Pulse width modulator so that we can do the bipolar switching, at some stage we may have to change the fets to ones that can handle over 300v but that can wait till later. You can run your motor on this comparing the standard setup with the diode across the motor with my setup with two diodes feeding a capacitor in the source.

The standard setup will be more powerful but my setup should consume much less power. You do not need to go more than 50% duty cycle.

Next we need to get more info from Armagdn03 on his coil setup so we can replicate it but making sure our coils can handle the power we will be putting through them.

Stage three will be checking the primary coil in series with the motor for resonance so that we know what frequency to pulse.

Then its run a test and see if our efficiency is going in the right direction. At this stage we may have to start increasing input voltage.

[garrypm]

Skype, yes.

Voltage - adjustable 0 - 9v peak to peak. Square & sine.

PM me you're skype.

Thanks

[mbrownn]

Thanks Mike,

I have several signal generators.

Let me know what I need to get to begin a build.

Thanks, Garry

Do you have Skype?

whats the voltage current and frequency range of your signal generators?

[mbrownn]

I spotted an error in the first circuit so I have reposed it here Circuit Simulator Applet

Remember you will have to close the aplet between links to see the new circuit.

The Imhotep Radiant Oscillator version Circuit Simulator Applet

The Bedini version Circuit Simulator Applet

As the recovery goes to the charging battery we get no overunity in the motor/supply in these last two circuits

[garrypm]

Thanks Mike,

I have several signal generators.

Let me know what I need to get to begin a build.

Thanks, Garry

[mbrownn]

I forgot to mention the relay, the results I have had with a relay in self oscillation were form 200 to 600Hz and from 12 to 30% duty cycle. Obviously the duty cycle on this simulation is not possible with a normal relay, hence I need a signal generator and then I can replace the relay with electronics.

If you put a commutator on a separate speed controlled motor (Dremmel) you can do a mechanical version as I did but I have burned mine out testing a 2kw 220v motor

[mbrownn]

Hi Mbrown,

What's the "M" stand for anyway?

Ok, I've go a few dollars, a variety of magnets and motors and a bit of time up
my sleeve.

You provide the direction and I will do the build (experiments) and report.

If you're interested, let me know.

Garry

Mike

Excelent, I am looking for people who wish to help me develop this device, my problem is lack of funds I don't have a frequency generator and that is holding me up at the moment but there is no reason why others with equipment can't do the testing as I give the information freely.

This coil of Armagdn03 need to be tested. I don't think the geometry is that important although frequency probably will be once we get close to overunity.

This is one potential Lockridge circuit Circuit Simulator Applet

Just go to edit to see the specs of the twin transformers as this is what I have done to simulate the coil. The attached resistances represent the ohmic resistance but if you can make them lower it will be better. I haven't had time to get the specs right yet but this circuit is already showing overunity.

The 0.25 ohm resistor, 4mH inductor and 6v battery represent a 12v motor under full load. The 100k resistor is to eliminate oscillations in the simulator and is not needed in the circuit.

The input battery, diode, resistor and capacitor combination is just to get a smooth input so that the results are easier to interpret although the capacitor serves a second purpose of energy recovery via the two diodes across the relay. The lower the power of the motor you use the lower the voltage input you need but the higher the frequency the higher the input voltage.

In a real device we will we will have to trade off the input voltage, inductor specs and frequency to tune the circuit.

[garrypm]

Lets have a go

Hi Mbrown,

What's the "M" stand for anyway?

Ok, I've go a few dollars, a variety of magnets and motors and a bit of time up
my sleeve.

You provide the direction and I will do the build (experiments) and report.

If you're interested, let me know.

Garry

[mbrownn]

From Duncan on the Donald Smith thread this should be of interest here also.

George

yes this is what we are looking for "However, as the order of the harmonics (frequency) increases, the inductive reactance increases while the capacitive reactance decreases. At a particular frequency of harmonics, the inductive and capacitive reactances become equal and resonance sets in. " this is where we get the gain

[FRC]

From the Donald Smith thread

Hey I'm scribbling and writing and trying my very best to alter a “mind set” that has been forced on us all, I too have had to eat the same feed as all the rest of the chickens. Its come down the chute and into my food bowl in carefully measured amounts at just the right time just as it has with every one else! You'll have to excuse me a moment I cant quite work out if some guy just came on thread to flog solar panels … stunning .. anyway as I said all fed the same crap at the same time, I am doing my very best to show as best I can in Practical systems where the sign posts to free energy are .. If you have watched the video's and links I have been posting and read the pdf (I'm still much in debt to pjk for his help with that) you will be getting a feel for the power and the wave for which we are seeking and how we might be able to use it.
I am leaning heavily on giants in the field and trying to make the elephant that’s sitting in the room stand up and whack everyone with his trunk,
I have explained that there is another type of electricity altogether, I have told you and shown you It bears no relation ship to any mathematical formula or indeed any of the principles that we have had trickle down the chute into our food / learning trough.
The education system has one purpose obedient drones George Carlin The Best 3 Minutes of His Career "The American Dream" - YouTube Well I'm going to try a slightly different tack .. The things that Eric Dollard and Steve Jackson and prof meyl have shown you are duplicated in high power electrical circuits so lets take a close look at that situation. As I said earlier the electrical people are taught the same subject as radio folks entirely differently (different set of feeders into our troughs different phasers/vectors different feeding times )and so are transmission line/ electronics folks they get wrapped up in baud rates but It all happens in electrical engineering too ! It does of course need translating , and I'd like to point a few of the obvious things before you read this short web-page, The linear resonance or full standing wave of which I speak (as opposed to to the herzian wave resonance which keeps cropping up with monotonous regularity) is called in heavy current engineering "Harmonic resonance", and not surprisingly just like the full standing wave in radio it is taught as a nasty dangerous thing that is to be avoided at all costs!
No one wants you learning about these things!! Do notice at “harmonic resonance” unexplained events occur transformers blow to pieces tremendous force is released , Unexplained is about right ! Unexplained to you .. it ain’t gonna come down your food chute in a hurry! But keep in mind that these reactances must be equal some where on a line, and left to its own devices would result in a randomly destructive monster, unexplained ?doesn't it occur to you that is what we must have ? Some thing unexplained that we are going to use and get unexplained power from?Unexplained is very different to unknown you can take it to the bank if there's something that can do huge amounts of random damage to the power structure and release huge amounts of energy quite a lot of people know the nuts and bolts. Its part of our puzzle... and a clue to the transformer matching is here also I feel .Transient high voltages ? or High voltages moving around isn’t that what we want and crave? Why they make it sound like a bad thing! don’t seem right does it?.. Harmonic resonance even sounds sorta sweet don’t it? Anyway here it is in heavy power engineering Harmonics Resonance | Electrical Science

From Duncan on the Donald Smith thread this should be of interest here also.

George