Jeff's Battery Swapper On Sale Now!

[aussieaussieaussie]

Tit, Tat, Tit, Tat....

@Bits:
Thank you for the info on your battery charger, looks like you have thought a lot about it but still kept it simple. I reckon it would hardly draw any current, you should state the current draw of the device because this is a really good selling point!

I know you may never release a specification sheet... but you should also add what comes in the box? Power supply? Cables? Relays? Etc. Just a friendly tip!

On a personal note I would be interested to know what type of relays you are using in your setup?

I am impressed, I think I may purchase one. Of course in a full setup in my opinion you would require two or more of these devices. Thats why after purchasing yours I intend to catch up on my PIC programming and build my own 8 battery switcher. I want to support you Bits, to the tune of $1200, but I also want to learn how to build one so I can customize to my device.

I agree with kippered, Bits swapper is great for those people scared of PIC programming but have the skills to build a large machine.
Where there is a demand, why not fill it!

Don't complain about the cost, thats Bits's business decision, sure you could prob build one for $100 - but it would also take you a week or two!

Once again thanks for the info Bits, I look forward to the final information and pictures when you launch the product properly.

Ozy

[Matthew Jones]

I do not produce any products to be sold.
All that I fabricate is given freely to those
who have a need for some specific device
or service.
Retirement has its advantages.

BS you make nothing but nonsense.

Matt

[arKzeRo]

Hi Bits and all

No offense was meant in my questions nor am i saying that there is some kind of con on the go! I am however saying that that i wish to understand the high asking price.

I was wondering what you get for $1200 as opposed to the one i built. (not my design) I did a four batt swapper based on this one in the image below and again the schematic for it was provided by someone else.I just had to source parts and construct it.

I am not at the level to make anything like this from my own design so i am not making comments as to the prowess of anybodies work! I will save that for another ten years or so,when i have learned some stuff first.

I would comment that the price may not be high for some of you but for myself and most people, it simply is.

One thing i must say though guys! I have the deepest respect and admiration for all of you but, some of you need to plain grow up!
Stop fighting each other!

With respect, I am a junior member here trying to learn and it is not very impressive to see you all squabble like you do! Frequently!

It must be fun for the ones who wish to suppress you're wonderful achievements, to see you at each others throats and so often divided.

"Together we stand, Divided we fall"

@Bits.
My humble apologies to you Bits. I did not mean for you to be attacked through or because of my questions.

Best Regards
Jay

[aussieaussieaussie]

Yep, now I remember that circuit from Daftman, from memory it worked very very well. Although you can't really compare it to Bits' battery swapper, since his is 4 batteries and PIC controlled.

Also I was just thinking, (heres trouble), I will be using deep cycle marine batteries in my setup and therefore can discharge them well below 10.5V which is prob the cutoff for bit's swapper. Is Bit's swapper configurable? Can you change the voltages that it changes batteries at? This is important, as if it can not be configured, it is useless for deep cycle batteries.

Ozy

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi Bits and all

No offense was meant in my questions nor am i saying that there is some kind of con on the go! I am however saying that that i wish to understand the high asking price.

I was wondering what you get for $1200 as opposed to the one i built. (not my design) I did a four batt swapper based on this one in the image below and again the schematic for it was provided by someone else.I just had to source parts and construct it.

I am not at the level to make anything like this from my own design so i am not making comments as to the prowess of anybodies work! I will save that for another ten years or so,when i have learned some stuff first.

I would comment that the price may not be high for some of you but for myself and most people, it simply is.

One thing i must say though guys! I have the deepest respect and admiration for all of you but, some of you need to plain grow up!
Stop fighting each other!

With respect, I am a junior member here trying to learn and it is not very impressive to see you all squabble like you do! Frequently!

It must be fun for the ones who wish to suppress you're wonderful achievements, to see you at each others throats and so often divided.

"Together we stand, Divided we fall"

@Bits.
My humble apologies to you Bits. I did not mean for you to be attacked through or because of my questions.

Best Regards
Jay

The Daftman swapper is indeed a nice swapper and I have the utmost respect for him. He has shown the steps for someone to build a simple device, but here are the differences;

With the Bit's Batt swapper you can,
Maintain a load while batts are pulled in and out of the charge cycle.
This device can support a 12V or 24V load (User adjustable)
Gives a digital read out of battery’s levels and charge condition
Allows terminal monitoring / logging
Has manual and automatic charging settings
Allows for external source for charging such as solar or 10 coiler
Will have replaceable Relay modules so you can support various loads
Comes standard with 10 amp relay load module
Proven Programmed Algorithms for excellent battery charge cycles
Tesla Switch technology
Will not provide for user adjustable charge settings

So while the Daftman Batt swapper is a Batt swapper, there really is no comparison.

Thanks Jay for your question

Jeff

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Yep, now I remember that circuit from Daftman, from memory it worked very very well. Although you can't really compare it to Bits' battery swapper, since his is 4 batteries and PIC controlled.

Also I was just thinking, (heres trouble), I will be using deep cycle marine batteries in my setup and therefore can discharge them well below 10.5V which is prob the cutoff for bit's swapper. Is Bit's swapper configurable? Can you change the voltages that it changes batteries at? This is important, as if it can not be configured, it is useless for deep cycle batteries.

Ozy

Ozy, deep cycle does not mean you can take your batts well below 10.5V. Deep cycle is a normal discharge rate based on C5 or C20 standards. Unlike a starting batt that is design for short loads. I would not take a batt below 12.2 unless I was trying to rejuvinate it.

[SeaMonkey]

BS you make nothing but nonsense.

Matt

In all matters where some controversy is
involved; in time, as diverse opinions are
received the matter will be finally resolved.

While what I make may be "nonsense" to
one, it may be something of value to another.

Who is to say who is the better judge?

Are we to sense a smidgen of emotion in
your opinion Matt?

[Matthew Jones]

In all matters where some controversy is
involved; in time, as diverse opinions are
received the matter will be finally resolved.
While what I make may be "nonsense" to
one, it may be something of value to another.
Who is to say who is the better judge?
Are we to sense a smidgen of emotion in
your opinion Matt?

Nope, pure contempt. Anybody who would pay any attention to you and your endless rambling of nothing, is being mislead.
You have nothing to show. You have no useful information. You contribute nothing. And you do not even have a leg to stand to say otherwise. Every post you make shows this.

But you could change that easily by contributing. New info not just whats available on the first page of Google.
By sharing whatever you have as far as skills with others.
But you don't. You probably won't and you'll find irrational reason why. "We're just good enough for you..." if you will.

If you are not content listening to my opinion of you then feel free to say so but do not expect my criticism to end. You and your type are a dime a dozen and have been the entire time I have been on these boards, Working and showing by example.
Your sole intention is to distract and disrupt. Your like children who do not get good attention from parent their figure, so you encourage negative attention.
No value at all. Worthless!
I am going to make a point of letting you know in every post that does nothing.

And if you don't learn to enjoy the ever present criticism, which is the only attention you deserve, then hit the logout button and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Sincerely
Matthew Jones

[SeaMonkey]

Nope, pure contempt. Anybody who would pay any attention to you and your endless rambling of nothing, is being mislead.
You have nothing to show. You have no useful information. You contribute nothing. And you do not even have a leg to stand to say otherwise. Every post you make shows this.

But you could change that easily by contributing. New info not just whats available on the first page of Google.
By sharing whatever you have as far as skills with others.
But you don't. You probably won't and you'll find irrational reason why. "We're just good enough for you..." if you will.

If you are not content listening to my opinion of you then feel free to say so but do not expect my criticism to end. You and your type are a dime a dozen and have been the entire time I have been on these boards, Working and showing by example.
Your sole intention is to distract and disrupt. Your like children who do not get good attention from parent their figure, so you encourage negative attention.
No value at all. Worthless!
I am going to make a point of letting you know in every post that does nothing.

And if you don't learn to enjoy the ever present criticism, which is the only attention you deserve, then hit the logout button and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Sincerely

Matthew Jones

You may do as you please Matt.

I shall say nothing to contradict the example
you choose to set.

I shall defer to the assessment of others who
may be more knowledgeable.

[Matthew Jones]

Whatever that means???

[Jbignes5]

Wow Matt...

Nope, pure contempt. Anybody who would pay any attention to you and your endless rambling of nothing, is being mislead.
You have nothing to show. You have no useful information. You contribute nothing. And you do not even have a leg to stand to say otherwise. Every post you make shows this.

But you could change that easily by contributing. New info not just whats available on the first page of Google.
By sharing whatever you have as far as skills with others.
But you don't. You probably won't and you'll find irrational reason why. "We're just good enough for you..." if you will.

If you are not content listening to my opinion of you then feel free to say so but do not expect my criticism to end. You and your type are a dime a dozen and have been the entire time I have been on these boards, Working and showing by example.
Your sole intention is to distract and disrupt. Your like children who do not get good attention from parent their figure, so you encourage negative attention.
No value at all. Worthless!
I am going to make a point of letting you know in every post that does nothing.

And if you don't learn to enjoy the ever present criticism, which is the only attention you deserve, then hit the logout button and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Sincerely
Matthew Jones

It just keeps getting worse and worse. Might I refer you to this thread to see what SeaMonkey has and is doing in a productive manner.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...cussion-5.html

I would say you might want to take back your words. Obviously he is helping this community no matter if you say so or not. Obviously he does have knowledge and is contributing.

[Matthew Jones]

If I felt like digging them out I can show 6 lies he purposely told in the Tesla Switch Thread, for no other reason than to misinform.
I'm not going to do it at this time and give the opportunity to cover his tracks.
Sure he might help a little, But like I said not much more than what you could find yourself on the first page of a Google Search.
But wait and see he'll stick around introduce doubt, critism and pure misinformation for no obvious reason. Just to side track everything.
He purposely doing this and obviously has no intention of changing his ways.

Just remember what I am saying...

Matt

[aussieaussieaussie]

Ozy, deep cycle does not mean you can take your batts well below 10.5V. Deep cycle is a normal discharge rate based on C5 or C20 standards. Unlike a starting batt that is design for short loads. I would not take a batt below 12.2 unless I was trying to rejuvinate it.

Thanks Bits, makes sense, so your just sipping from each battery, making sure to only discharge to 80% to extend the life of the battery.

So I will rejuvenate the big marine deep cycle with some other pulse device first, by discharging them well below 80%. Once they are better at holding a charge then they can be used on your system.

Thanks for your help,

Ozy

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Thanks Bits, makes sense, so your just sipping from each battery, making sure to only discharge to 80% to extend the life of the battery.

So I will rejuvenate the big marine deep cycle with some other pulse device first, by discharging them well below 80%. Once they are better at holding a charge then they can be used on your system.

Thanks for your help,

Ozy

I don't think that you understand battery capacity levels. A battery that is 80% discharge will have a resting voltage of 12.2. No I am not "Sipping" out each battery. All the batt swapper does is manage the each batterys charge and load cycle. If you need to "Rejuvinate" your Batts, may I suggest the new PIC controlled rejuvinator from Renaissance.

[John_K]

Great device Bit's

Hi Bit's

I just stumbled across this thread. That's a marvellous device you have built, I can see many practical applications for it. From your description of it, it sounds very flexible as well.

I don't have any issues with the price tag. To me it's basically a computer that totally automates the battery charging and swapping process AND keeps the batteries in top shape. My deep cycle batteries are $300 each. If this means that in a few years time I don't need to replace them I figure I will have saved about $2,400!!

This will also save me hours from having to manually swap my battery banks around and making sure that I don't over or undercharge them. For someone that has a solar setup it means that the only maintenance required is to check the acid levels every month or so.

Thanks for efforts in bringing this device to the market. I hope you do very well with it!


John K.