Magtap: harvesting electricity from a magnet!

[LaserSaber]

How about it's the most stressed point from the bending?

When you bend an iron bar, the inner diameter of the bend wants to get smaller and the outside diameter of the bend wants to stretch.

So this difference, occurring while bending, could have a lasting effect.
So the molecules on the outside are stretched, on the inside are compressed. Could this difference generate an electrical/magnetic field?

I really think this idea might explain the effect. I need to do a test with some steel of the same type and size. I will heat it and bend it but not magnetize it. If the effect shows up on the non-magnetized steel then that would help eliminate another variable. It seems to me that the effect increases with stronger magnetism but I need to do more test to verify this.

One way to test your theory is also to try and sandblast the steal too see if the effect goes away, you could also use an acid or strong base to eat away any oxide you have on the outside. KOH or NAOH (drainO) should do it.

I have scratched down into the metal some and the effect actually seemed to increase. I will try sanding off an area down to fresh steel and do some tests as you suggest.

@LaserSaber. I would take precautions with regard to making contact with your fingers and the meter probes. I observed that there was reasonably consistent contact being made in your video. As i'm certain you have observed the current or grounding effect our own bodies can create or generate which can easily produce voltage levels of the sort you are reading. I don't mean to be sceptical, I would appreciate clarification on your testing procedure as i think the principle is curious.

I have tested this hundreds of different ways so far. I made skin contact in the video a lot as you have to press really hard to get the probes down into the bare steel where the effect is seen best. I have tested this while keeping my skin insulated from the probes and the effect is just the same. I have even clipped wires onto the steel U magnets and then touched my probes to those bare wires at a distance while keeping the probes insulated from my skin and the effect was still there.

People keep asking about voltage and amps. If you are looking for voltage you will find none. What you will find is a very low current. Please do not use a digital multimeter. I never would have been able to detect this effect using one initially. After finding the hot spots I was barely able to get a reading on my digital meter and that was on my best performing Magtap setup. I think to see the effect at all initially you will have to have a non-digital galvanometer 500ua or better.

[thedude]

I have tested this hundreds of different ways so far. I made skin contact in the video a lot as you have to press really hard to get the probes down into the bare steel where the effect is seen best. I have tested this while keeping my skin insulated from the probes and the effect is just the same. I have even clipped wires onto the steel U magnets and then touched my probes to those bare wires at a distance while keeping the probes insulated from my skin and the effect was still there.

Super! Thanks for clarification. I will try to do some replication to this effect.
Thanks for sharing.

[nenergy]

what is a magtap

Super! Thanks for clarification. I will try to do some replication to this effect.
Thanks for sharing.

what I had posted is harvesting of usable alternating current from magnetic amplifier .

there is no difference between a perpetual motion holder and a transformer, apply the amplified effects to the neutral zone and see if it makes sense instead of your immature accusation.

understanding the bloch wall, neutral zone or diamagnetic vortex areas
Magnetic Neutral Center Motor, and Concepts

[sebosfato]

what I had posted is harvesting of usable alternating current from magnetic amplifier .

there is no difference between a perpetual motion holder and a transformer, apply the amplified effects to the neutral zone and see if it makes sense instead of your immature accusation.

understanding the bloch wall, neutral zone or diamagnetic vortex areas
Magnetic Neutral Center Motor, and Concepts

Sorry, i was not able to understand this, could you explain? How overunity? How much energy going in and coming out?

Thanks

[nenergy]

Understanding magnetism

Sorry, i was not able to understand this, could you explain? How overunity? How much energy going in and coming out?

Thanks

What is written can be taught and such knowledge must abide by its laws,

What is not told can only be learned, so please go ahead and learn.


What you are attempting to learn here has already been told by Leedskalnin.
You know we receive an education in the schools from books. All those books that people became educated from twenty-five years ago, are wrong now, and those that are good now, will be wrong again twenty-five years from now. So if they are wrong then, they are also wrong now, and the one who is educated from the wrong books is not educated, he is misled. All books that are written are wrong, the one who is not educated cannot write a book and the one who is educated, is not really educated but he is misled and the one who is misled cannot write a book which is correct.

The misleading began when our far distant ancestors began to teach their descendants. You know they knew nothing but they passed their knowledge of nothing to the coming generations and it went so innocently that nobody noticed it. That is why we are not educated. Now I will tell you what education is according to my reasoning. An educated person is one whose senses are refined. We are born as brutes, we remain and die as the same if we do not become polished. Some are too coarse to take it. The main base of education is one's "self-respect". Any one lacking self-respect cannot be educated. The main bases of self-respect is the willingness to learn, to do only the things that are good and right, to believe only in the things that can be proved, to possess appreciation and self control.

Now, if you lack willingness to learn, you will remain as a brute and if you do things that are not good and right, you will be a low person, and if you believe in things that cannot be proved, any feeble minded person can lead you, and if you lack appreciation, it takes away the incentive for good doing and if you lack self control you will never know the limit.

So all those lacking these characteristics in their makeup are not educated.

[thedude]

@nenergy I'm not sure if your post is in anyway related to the topic here. If so then disregard this comment, otherwise I would suggest that you start your own thread to discuss your theory/method/device in detail. This is LaserSaber's thread to discuss his Magtap principle. Thanks and sorry if i misunderstood.

@nenergy
Say could you please explain how my previous post to you was immature? I even apologized if i misunderstood how your post applied to this Magtap discussion thread which was started here by LaserSaber not you.

For you to reply "What is a magtap?" It is simply the principle in focus in this thread. Its a concept or possible theory. If you have found another interesting phenomenon then by all means post about it. Your first post didn't resonate with what i thought the topic was. Sorry if i was "Ignorant".
You sound suspiciously like another person on these forums, spoke and rambled much the same way you do. Even more curious. I'll depart from this discussion so as not to confuse things more.
Sorry Lasersaber. And Nenergy as well if i missed his point, perhaps i am ignorant in certain ways, but i do try to be polite.
PS- To Nenergy. You are not the first to bring up the usefulness of a blotch wall or magnetic gate. Don't assume that we are not on a similar page. I just didn't see the relevance to be honest.

[nenergy]

Magtap with neutral zone

@dude
not emotions attached, merely learning, keep sweet sixteen from self impurities.

@lasersaber
i'm only parroting what I have learned. what you found is the gate, bloch or what ever you want to call it. it is governed by the Phi geometries. The inversed vortex enters @ this space, 0 degrees, and it spreads 22.5 degrees to each side.

same principle being applied @ JB FW.

this experiment was done, it clearly shows the effects.


anyhow, I will no longer partake as what I've learned is not told. Must abide by the law that's written!.

[fusionchip]

Electromagnet remains Enrgized with battery removed?

Hi Lightsaber . in your video you are just tapping a 9 volt battery to energize the electromagnet for a sec.and it stays energized after you remove it ? My understanding of an electromagnet is once you remove power it is no longer a strong magnet and can't hold like you show trying to seperate the two pieces . to me this is the most interesting thing about your experiment as the way you have your coils they are perpetually regenerating the dc to keep the electromagnet on with just a quick tap of a 9 volt . It this normal ?I find that very cool and a test to disconnect the coil circuit after you energiz it once to see if it releases the end iron piece . if it does then your circuit is maintaining a closed loop circuit ever so simple .
Thanks .

Albert

Edit .Ok I never read Ed leedskalnin's document and understand that if you put a meter in series with the coild the current can be measured after the battery is removed This meter is the ultimate proof...actually accessing the current while in perpetual motion(TPU basic proof) Interesting in that he loaded his Pm holder with 12 amps and 6 remained on the meter indicating a closed loop DC on the coils . Now how can we use that closed loop DC curent being its perpetuial as long as the Magnetic loop remains intact? .