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  • Magtap: harvesting electricity from a magnet!

    This video shows a strange effect I have noticed while experimenting with magnets: YouTube - Magtap: harvesting electricity from a magnet!
    I am in the process of researching this effect and will keep you posted with updated findings.

  • #2
    Hi
    Interesting experiment. At this the I think it could be just a galvanic reaction between metals on the probes and the PMH. The small current seem to support this idea. To test this out you need to disassemble the PMH and try the same on the V piece again. Also why exactly there is the sweestpot, might be because the metal is a bit different at that point because it has been bent and its structure is changed.
    Just an idea.
    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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    • #3
      @lasersaber
      Very intriguing work. Did you build the magnet structure or did you buy it? I was wondering how to get one to test?

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      • #4
        At this the I think it could be just a galvanic reaction between metals on the probes and the PMH.
        I did a lot of tests prior to posting this video to try and rule out that very possibility. I have tested non-magnetized steel of the exact same type with the same probes and found no effect. I know that there are a ton of variables so I could be wrong about this.

        Also why exactly there is the sweestpot, might be because the metal is a bit different at that point because it has been bent and its structure is changed.
        I have built about six different models of this so far just testing out different ideas. The current always shows up at the exact spot shown in the video. You may be right about the metal structure changing at the point where it is bent. I always bend my U magnets red hot and let them air cool over time.

        You do not need the other part of the PMH to make this work, the effect is still there when the PMH is broken. It seems that you can magnetize steel that is bent into a U and then pull current from the Magtap point. I like to leave it in the PMH configuration otherwise with time it would lose it's magnetism because my steel is low carbon.

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        • #5
          hmm, interesting... though im kind of in agreement with jet that it may be galvanic at the curved/deformed area.....but.....hopefully its something more exotic

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          • #6
            How about it's the most stressed point from the bending?

            When you bend an iron bar, the inner diameter of the bend wants to get smaller and the outside diameter of the bend wants to stretch.

            So this difference, occurring while bending, could have a lasting effect.
            So the molecules on the outside are stretched, on the inside are compressed. Could this difference generate an electrical/magnetic field?

            This creating a tension field in the iron.

            Maybe you're sweetspot is the center of the "bending"

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            • #7
              I have seeing a video on youtube where the guy showed this effect of permanent magnetism using a 9 volt battery just like you, do you know what video i'm talking of? Where did you found the schematic?

              I'm interested in investigating this, could you please provide some info about? how is the effect called?

              Thanks

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              • #8
                It looks similar to the hall effect. I had one made up from long ago and tested it today, only one coil, I get a similar output. I wonder if a wider material would enhance the effect.
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                Last edited by dragon; 05-11-2011, 11:03 AM.

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                • #9
                  Interesting effect. Have you checked the voltage at the hot point? Just curious what it reads as it may support your ideas on this if it's anywhere near the battery voltage that initiates this effect. I also immediately thought about what you might find if you put a couple sharp points (welded?) on the inside and outside of the bend. Not sure why I'm thinking that may add to the effect - just a hunch. Nice find.
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                  • #10
                    I have to agree with Jetijs, as I just did the same test as you but without the heated steal as you have. I have two peace's of steal one is machined into the U and the other is metglass (AMCC 50) made up of many layers as you have suggested to do...I made them lock with a simple coil and then did the same test as you. I am sorry to say that there was no voltage or amps anywhere. One way to test your theory is also to try and sandblast the steal too see if the effect goes away, you could also use an acid or strong base to eat away any oxide you have on the outside. KOH or NAOH (drainO) should do it. The other thing might be an stretching of the steal changing something in the steal...

                    But you can study the PMH for many other amazing effects and learn alot.

                    Karl

                    Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                    Hi
                    Interesting experiment. At this the I think it could be just a galvanic reaction between metals on the probes and the PMH. The small current seem to support this idea. To test this out you need to disassemble the PMH and try the same on the V piece again. Also why exactly there is the sweestpot, might be because the metal is a bit different at that point because it has been bent and its structure is changed.
                    Just an idea.

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                    • #11
                      Mag Amp x1000 amplification

                      AC amplification 1000x



                      Homemade Magnetic Amplifiers.

                      9v alkaline battery

                      S circle is AC from Inverter - 12v battery
                      Attached Files

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nenergy View Post
                        AC amplification 1000x

                        Homemade Magnetic Amplifiers.

                        9v alkaline battery

                        S circle is AC from Inverter - 12v battery
                        Sorry to ask a silly question.

                        I have read your article and I would like to know whether the circuit is creating more output electricity than the input (overunity) or is this just a way to get high voltage out of a battery (but the battery dies fast)?

                        Thanks.

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                        • #13
                          magnetic amplification

                          Input current amplification, 1000x

                          Load draw is constant, over unity is forbidden!

                          For mainstream electrical compliance, call it magnetic amplification.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nenergy View Post
                            Input current amplification, 1000x

                            Load draw is constant, over unity is forbidden!

                            For mainstream electrical compliance, call it magnetic amplification.
                            Your claim seems quite absurd, you are just using the transformer winding as a variable inductance thru controlling the saturation of the core, you re not amplifying power or the input current you are inputing current to control a bigger current like a transistor, more clearly a saturable reactor. NO OVER UNITY.

                            Please correct me if i'm wrong.

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                            • #15
                              hijaking of this thread

                              @nenergy I'm not sure if your post is in anyway related to the topic here. If so then disregard this comment, otherwise I would suggest that you start your own thread to discuss your theory/method/device in detail. This is LaserSaber's thread to discuss his Magtap principle. Thanks and sorry if i misunderstood.

                              @LaserSaber. I would take precautions with regard to making contact with your fingers and the meter probes. I observed that there was reasonably consistent contact being made in your video. As i'm certain you have observed the current or grounding effect our own bodies can create or generate which can easily produce voltage levels of the sort you are reading. I don't mean to be sceptical, I would appreciate clarification on your testing procedure as i think the principle is curious.
                              Thanks.
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