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  • #16
    Why not use a bifilar coil?
    Energize the coils in opposite directions:
    the coils have "no" inductance.
    The maximum current is there instantly.
    Then disconnect one coil abruptly.
    Then the other coil shortly after.



    /Hob
    Hob Nilre
    http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nilrehob View Post
      Why not use a bifilar coil?
      Energize the coils in opposite directions:
      the coils have "no" inductance.
      The maximum current is there instantly.
      Then disconnect one coil abruptly.
      Then the other coil shortly after.



      /Hob
      Excellent idea to reach the maximum current instantly, but how can the inductance change be faster than the instant current in order to have an inductance gain? I do like the idea and will give it more thought.

      One may say that we could use a slow rise time in current, which would allow the inductance to change faster than the current, but then our pulse width would be too long. The maximum RPM must change the inductance at a rate faster than the time it takes for the current to reach it's maximum value. This means when the current reaches it's maximum value, then we have reached the end of our pusle width. At the end of the pulse width, there is no longer a change in inductance and the magnet will no longer be attracted by the core and we will have a gain in inductance.

      GB
      Last edited by gravityblock; 12-06-2010, 05:39 PM.

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      • #18
        Or charge the coils in parallel and discharge them in series?
        PS-coil SP-cap - nilrehob
        Never had the time to test it thoroughly though.

        /Hob
        Hob Nilre
        http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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        • #19
          Or the other way around,
          charge the coils in series and discharge them in parallel.
          If they share core and the magnetic flux is what is constant between the two phases,
          there might actually be a gain in energy.
          This schematic shows how:
          SP-coil - nilrehob

          /Hob
          Hob Nilre
          http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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          • #20
            Originally posted by nilrehob View Post
            Why not use a bifilar coil?
            Energize the coils in opposite directions:
            the coils have "no" inductance.
            The maximum current is there instantly.
            Then disconnect one coil abruptly.
            Then the other coil shortly after.



            /Hob
            Careful buddy, that might be too good an idea. (Send a PM to Erfinder ask him what happens...)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
              Careful buddy, that might be too good an idea. (Send a PM to Erfinder ask him what happens...)
              I will PM him.

              Meanwhile...

              If You have two equal coils on the same core,
              for simplicity each with 1 H and 1 Ohm,
              connect them in series and You have 4 H and 2 Ohm,
              put 1 V on them and wait until they are saturated:

              1 V and 2 Ohm gives 0.5 A (A=V/Ohm)
              4 H and 0.5 A gives 0.5 J (J=1/2 *H*I^2)
              0.5 A and 4 H gives 2 Wb (A*H=Wb)

              Then disconnect the source and at the same time connect the coils in parallel.
              When in parallel You have 1 H and 0.5 Ohm.

              If the magnetic flux is constant during the moment of disconnect and reconfiguration:

              2 Wb and 1 H gives 2 A (A=Wb/H)
              1 H and 2 A gives 2 J (J=1/2 *H*I^2)

              Then we have an increase in energy by 400%.
              Is this possible?
              Is this what Teslas impuls technology is?



              /Hob
              Hob Nilre
              http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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              • #22
                Thanks man, I'm thinking about this recently. would you explain better, including the relation with the webbers ...
                Thanks again.

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                • #23
                  I'm just thinking what if the constant in "mid air" would be the magnetic flux?
                  Magnetic flux is Weber, and i think Wb=H*A (as in impulse when kinetic motion).
                  Weber (unit) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                  So some soft iron core, but not too soft i guess, would maybe keep its flux going while the coil is changing its parameters.
                  Just a thought.

                  /Hob
                  Hob Nilre
                  http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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                  • #24
                    And I guess the core has to be a toroid?

                    /Hob
                    Hob Nilre
                    http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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                    • #25
                      What if you take Edward Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder,
                      which usually have two equal coils,
                      start it with the coils in series
                      and measure the energy used for starting it,
                      connect the coils in parallel,
                      break the flux,
                      measure the energy coming out in the coils.

                      In this scenario it would be clear that it is the flux that is constant between the setups.

                      /Hob
                      Hob Nilre
                      http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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