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**ashtweth** · 12-05-2010, 11:08 AM

Hi Hob/ALL

Thanks for posting very informative links, I have heard of a few people grabing it as apparently the hype is that it will double by Jan.

Ash

**Moe R** · 12-05-2010, 06:58 PM

Here is a good link in real time.

YouTube - MODERN DAY HUNT BROTHERS: Buy Physical Silver & Beat the Banks

**nilrehob** · 12-05-2010, 07:37 PM

The Fed is the Biggest Counterfeit Machine in the History of the World

Ron Paul is just awesome, watch at 8:55:
YouTube - Ron Paul: The Fed is the Biggest Counterfeit Machine in the History of the World
He said it!

WOW!

/Hob

**bugler** · 12-05-2010, 07:37 PM

Crashing JP Morgan sounds really good.

I would add that the single most important thing to do to hugely and fastly improve the economy would be to change the monetary system. In particular:
1. Remove the federal reserve so the government print its own money without getting into a debt.
2. Remove the banking fractional system so banks don't print money and get filthy rich while creating inflation and boom and bush cycles.

To learn about this please watch this detailed video about the monetary system scam: The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America

Henry Ford: "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning".

**Aaron** · 12-05-2010, 07:58 PM

local currencies

Anyone is free to start their own currency backed by gold and silver. There
is nothing against the law in doing so. This is already being done in multiple
places around the United States and has been for many years.

The liberty dollar website got yanked down by court order???
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...ertydollar.org
I wonder what that is about.

Ithaca Hours: Ithaca Hours - Local Currency - Ithaca, New York
That is another that has been going on for a while.

There are many more...

**Ecoman11** · 12-05-2010, 09:52 PM

Ahh my kinda topic! I've been trading PMs for many years and it's good to see that people are finally catching on.

First and foremost buy yourself physical silver bullion coins or bars before quantities become scarce. There is already some major inventory shortages in the COMEX, LBMA and many online dealers. You can check for yourself at ScotiaMocatta.com and Apmex.com for 100oz silver bars and see how they are sold out. I've never seen them sold out for all the years I've been trading and this is a clear indicator that supplies are short. The US mint also recorded 4.2m silver coins sold for November alone which is a staggering rate that exceeds annual mining production.

If you prefer to trade the markets there are many good junior mining stocks that are starting to go parabolic however the safest stock I would suggest most is Eric Sprott's Silver Trust Fund. This is a safe fund that is 100% backed by physical silver which is stored and audited at the Royal Canadian Mint. From my understanding you can also redeem your stock shares in physical bars which is a great option that not many funds offer. Also look into trading on the TSX in Canadian dollars as the USD will be plummeting in the coming months.

As for crashing JP Morgan, that's not likely to happen anytime soon. If they do get exposed for shorting the silver market, they'll just be bailed out by the Fed and get another slap on the hand by the SEC and CFTC regulators. This scheme will keep going until the dollar is abolished by hyper-inflation.

We may think it's an opportunity to take down a bank and make some money off it, but hyper-inflation is what we must avoid at all costs. The world isn't ready for it and will only result in a global food and energy crisis (Unless you're ready to live like a Mennonite and can grow your own food, heat and power your home.)

Some other resource sites that will keep you up to date are Gata.org, KingWorldNews.com and ZeroHedge.com.

Now go buy your silver...

Ecoman

**Savvypro** · 12-05-2010, 11:25 PM

@Ecoman11

Do you by any chance know of any good guides to buying gold and silver, or have any recommendations on what to buy.

I've been going to 1 oz .999 coins as we'll as half oz .999 coins. I’m thinking of possibly getting 1 oz .999 bars but not any larger as I don’t have the funds to go for them.

Is there anyway to determine if what you receive is what you thought you paid for without melting. If it were diamonds I'd have no problems as I learnt how to grade them a few years ago. But for metals I could only guess one could test the conductivity, resistively, weight or the old Archimedes trick of water displacement.

**ashtweth** · 12-06-2010, 02:01 AM

I am with Aaron,regional currency is very underrated,dont forget the the worgl schillings thrived in the great depression the worgl schillings

**Ecoman11** · 12-06-2010, 02:06 AM

@Savvypro

If you're concerned about brands and quality then stick with American Eagles or Canadian Maple Leaf bullion coins and most importantly buy from a trusted local coin dealer that is registered with the US or Canadian Mint.

If you would like to purchase online via credit card; APMEX.com is the best. It's hard to find online dealers that accept credit cards.

You can always buy a gold or silver acid test kit to determine the purity however it's not that accurate. I think it's safe to say that buying from a trusted dealer is the best way to go since they wouldn't put their business on the line to sell you a small amount of fake gold or silver.
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The CRASH JP MORGAN campaign has been effective and has cost JP Morgan a few hundred million dollars so far this month. Of course they had to make up their losses so last week they purchased around 1.5 billion dollars worth of copper from the LME (London Metal Exchange.) Now one has to wonder what a bank would do with 200,000 tonnes of copper taken from 350,000 tonnes of reserve. I already mentioned on another post to be prepared to pay double or triple for copper wire. It's now happening.

Ecoman

**Aaron** · 12-06-2010, 02:38 AM

1 ounce rounds

There is virtually no problems dealing with trusted local dealers - get
to know them - they are your friends. Call around to all of them in your
town because you might find significant difference in what they charge
over spot. That is the commodity price then they add a transaction fee
and that fee isn't very significant ounce at a time but if you're dealing
with volume at some point, it makes a big difference.

For 1 oz, you won't really be buying bars, but ROUNDS are the most
popular. You have to consider if you buy 5oz, 10oz, or bigger bars, if
you actually need to use them to barter, how are you going to cut
them up? Anyway, the rounds are about a little smaller diameter than
an Eisenhower dollar but a bit thicker.

Back in the day, people would chip off small pieces of silver coins like
Barber dimes, etc... but that probably isn't going to be easy to do with
thick 1oz rounds. Anyway, just something to consider. You said 1oz is
what you can do anyway and rounds are preferable in any case.

I've seen several kinds of Mexican ounces, etc... all the rest are various
American ones - all no problems.

I have heard that some gold dealers in Europe - possibly even banks got
caught having gold plated titanium or something. Now that is a serious
problem but that might be on some really big bars.

**ashtweth** · 12-06-2010, 04:30 AM

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**nilrehob** · 12-06-2010, 07:52 AM

Here is a good read on how banks work and where they come from:
The History of the “Money Changers”

/Hob

**nilrehob** · 12-06-2010, 11:06 AM

Wikileaks is a CIA operation

Webster Tarpley at Alex Jones show: "Wikileaks is a CIA operation"
starts at 12:10 in the 2:nd segment
YouTube - Alex Jones & Webster Tarpley: The Hidden Agenda Behind WikiLeaks - Alex Jones Tv Sunday Edition 2/5
and goes on from there at
YouTube - TheAlexJonesChannel's Channel

/Hob

**bugler** · 12-06-2010, 12:54 PM

Wikileaks is just a propaganda machine. How can we know that without further proof? Cause it is in the media all the time. Easy rule.

Alex Jones is a zionist agent. How can we know more about this? Read what Eric Hufschmid has to say about Alex Jones: Alex Jones is a liar

Who is Eric Hufschmid? In a few words, all the 911 truth movement should be grateful to Eric cause he made the first video explaining that the 911 official version was a hoax.
Why nobody knows who Eric Hufschdmid is and everybody knows who Alex Jones is? Apply the same rule applied to wikileaks? Easy when you know the rules and how to apply them.

What is the most known 911 video? Loose Change right? Why? Cause it was done, by 3 jews, to blame it on Bush when many were beginning to doubt the official version.

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