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  • Wikileaks: Here to Save Democracy!

    Dear All,

    I would like to take the time to fill you all in on a little 'inside' information.
    My conclusion and opinions on this topic are based on my own observations and research over a period of 35 years. You see, I knew Julian Assange when he lived on Magnetic Island in his (and mine) youth. I have followed this guy for many years and I am proud to say, I even admire him. Whats there not to like about Australia's 'ethical hacker'? As he was called back in 1991.
    He was what we call a top bloke, or a person with a good heart. His whole ideology from a young age was to help the world, or at least, leave this planet better then he found it. He has found a way to do it using his computer knowledge, I say good on him!

    For anyone who believes that he is CIA, or evil, or should be assassinated. Please read about his life before Wikileaks, this man has been advocating for a 'REAL' Free Press for two decades, not to mention a programmer of Open Source free software. If you use Linux or USENET, it's partly thanks to him.

    But, his belief that, 'True Free Speech' will free humanity and create real democracies is not a recent belief. He held this belief in his youth when our two paths crossed. If you grew up in that part of the world, you would believe the same thing too. If you spend your youth on a small island like we did, the world immediately around you is not only spectacularly beautiful but extremely friendly. You grow to learn that the 'mainland' were the community ceases and the government begins, is far less civilized and the government is not helping it's citizens like our community did to us.

    Most people who live in Queensland, Australia are also very different to most human beings, most grew up in places where the government didn't provide much and we relied on community instead. Also, why watch TV when, we could play outside in nature? Their propaganda was never even heard by most rural Queenslanders, let alone accepted. So we are naturally disjointed from government and very skeptical of there motives.
    Just look at the politician Pauline Hanson, she ran a small fish n chip shop in Queensland. One day she started her own political party and nearly took over the country! Everyone believed that politicians were that rotten and corrupt - that even Pauline was a better choice!

    What I am trying to say is don't trust any of the smear campaign against him, this man has just given up his life for the sake of every human on the planet. He is a hero, not a villain.
    It saddens me when people claim he has sinister motives. Wikileaks needed a fall guy, and Julian volunteered to be the guy in the cross hairs. He knew he would probably spend his remaining days in jail, but once wikileaks was started he knew nothing could take it down.
    You see, Julian is a very intelligent man, and thrives on intellectual debate. He therefore did not enter into this intellectual battle without a sound plan.

    Using torrents, he has made sure that no one server can ever be taken down and the information can never 'disappear' because it is stored on thousands of computers. Also by encrypting all his leaks using the standard military encryption and then distributing that via torrents, he has done two things:
    1. Made sure that unreleased leaks will still be released even if he is killed.
    2. Let the USA (and a few other hackers) know exactly what they would be releasing, so they had time to object to certain paragraphs.
    He also has a brilliant lawyer, and crack team of volunteers.
    USA labels wikileaks a 'terrorist organization', while the citizens of the world, label them 'non-profit organization'.
    Wikileaks will live far longer then the man who started it, and any attack on Wikileaks is an attack on the worlds right to know the truth about our world governments.

    Wikileaks is vital to our world right now, it is clear to the average person that we live in a corrupt system, mistrust of world leaders is at an all time high. Gone are the days when a whistle-blower could send an anonymous package to the newspaper, the editor just throws it out today. Everything they print is subject to 'National Security', so unless the government approves they can't print anything. The system is broken! No free press...

    But, if Wikileaks releases the information, the reporters are only repeating information already in the public domain - so they don't go to jail, we once again see Free Press emerging from a long long slumber. Some mainstream media WANTS to report on this stuff but they are all gagged by government, they have to wait for Wikileaks to publish first. Not one reporter worldwide EVER scoops Wikileaks, even through they all have the information weeks ahead of release. They are all using Julian Assange as the fall guy, they get to report juicy inside stuff, he goes to jail, in essence, Jullian is a suicide journalist...

    We are finally seeing the emergence of Free Press again, and as long as the world supports Wikileaks and Julian Assange - we may even get to have true free press forever. I don't think the world realizes how close we are to major change, if Wikileaks remains online, the secretive greedy people in the world no longer have anywhere to hide. It may take decades to fully come to fruition, but Free Press = Accountability. We might finally see that world court getting some more use.

    Support Wikileaks in anyway you can, and remove your support for any company that does not have the balls to support Wikileaks and internet freedom. These USA internet companies (Paypal, Amazon, Ebay) have all removed their support for Wikileaks because of government pressure.

    I suggest a Christmas Presents Boycott of Paypal, Ebay & Amazon. If we all just bought our Christmas presents elsewhere, we would send a huge $$$ message that we don't like it when our rights to free press & internet are trampled on.

    I hope this helped some of you understand the situation better and move past the mainstream soundbite version of Wikileaks.
    If you have any questions or comments or even dispute my conclusion - please I would love to hear your opinions.


    Look forward to your posts.


    Red

  • #2
    Hi,

    I think things are more complicated than whether this guy is a good guy with good intentions or not.

    Clearly wikeleaks is a set up by the hidden powers. Quite probably this guy has been manipulated to act as a manchurian candidate.

    Wikileaks is what it is thanks to the media. Without the media it would be completely unknown like Eric Hufschmid.net website which is exposing the jewish crimnal network for many years.

    If you analyze the data and what Netanyahu said before the leaks you can understand what is going on. Netanyahu said prior to the release that Israel won't be harmed. Come on! If there were a leaks of true documents we would see the constant manipulation of Israel in every aspect of US politics.
    But, what a concidence that the enemies of Israel are the bad guys in the leaks.
    Can you believe that even Arabs countries ask for the destruction of Iran? How sheeple has one to be to believe that.

    Wikileaks is not democracy or free press but a propaganda machine even if this guy is the most honest in history.

    I hope you understand that manipulating people is extrememly easy. They manipulate outsidres so their people don't go to jail.

    The truth is in internet. I mean the real truth but the media ignores it and for sheeple it doesn't exist. Wikileaks is now like the news. In every newspaper everyday (at least in Spain) there is info on the "leaked" documents. Complete obvious propaganda.

    Everythingn is in the media for a reason and not for information purposes.

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    • #3
      Dear Bugler,

      Thanks for you comments, but I do need point a few things out.
      First, inform yourself..

      check out:
      YouTube - Inside Wikileaks [Part 1]: Julian Assange - SBS Dateline w/Mark Davis

      This is the ONLY remaining respectable honest news show in Australia, it's been running for 30 years - and I have never needed to questioned their motives. I personally have met the Wikileaks 'embedded' reporter in this video, and can vouch for his honesty and integrity.


      Originally posted by bugler View Post
      Hi,

      Clearly wikeleaks is a set up by the hidden powers. Quite probably this guy has been manipulated to act as a manchurian candidate.

      You see my view of inside the doors of Wikileaks is from inside people, I think your view is from Media - this view is twisted. See video above.

      Wikileaks is what it is thanks to the media. Without the media it would be completely unknown like Eric Hufschmid.net website which is exposing the jewish crimnal network for many years.

      Wikileaks is useless without the media, and the modern media is useless without wikileaks. Wikileaks does not write articles, it simply publishes the leaks so reporters can use them. Wikileaks itself, doesn't have an opinion or agenda.

      If you analyze the data and what Netanyahu said before the leaks you can understand what is going on. Netanyahu said prior to the release that Israel won't be harmed. Come on! If there were a leaks of true documents we would see the constant manipulation of Israel in every aspect of US politics.
      But, what a concidence that the enemies of Israel are the bad guys in the leaks.
      Can you believe that even Arabs countries ask for the destruction of Iran? How sheeple has one to be to believe that.

      They have released damaging info on Israel, not much because they have better encryption and tougher laws against whistleblowers. You are confusing the fact that mainstream media don't report about wikileaks Israel documents because... you guessed it they are all owned by JEWS!

      Wikileaks is not democracy or free press but a propaganda machine even if this guy is the most honest in history.
      I hope you understand that manipulating people is extrememly easy. They manipulate outsidres so their people don't go to jail.

      This doesn't make sense mate, he created wikileaks, he is the founder, and every government wants to kill him. They only release the secret government version reports so you can compare it to the publicly released version and see where the cover ups are. This still requires real 'reporters' to actually find the story through research and publish it - your debate really lies with them, not the messenger wikileaks.

      The truth is in internet. I mean the real truth but the media ignores it and for sheeple it doesn't exist. Wikileaks is now like the news. In every newspaper everyday (at least in Spain) there is info on the "leaked" documents. Complete obvious propaganda.

      The truth is in the internet my friend! And while you sit on your ass, the first real big test of internet freedom is going on now with Wikileaks. If they are shut down, anything can be shut down. It's People vs. Government, which side are you on?
      P.S. Wikileaks is all over the newspapers and TV because these reporters can finally report the actual news! No longer is their only source the government script! But beware, these reporters still have the same bias and secret motives they had before Wikileaks came along!

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      • #4
        As usual, America is blaming everyone else and banging on about the death penalty and assasination ... so much for 'the land of the free' .. Its the animal farm analogy with all pigs being equal, but some being more equal than others.

        Don't get me wrong. I am no wikilead apologist. Its mildly ammusing but the diplomatic back chat has to be straight talking personal views - what else is useful ?

        I don't think releasing all the 300K + files is a good thing - he's made his point. The original leak is in the good old US of A.

        I am all for free speech and democracy, but in the world of international politics and trade, secrets are an absolute necessity. Just look how embarrasing it would have been had, say Israel bombed the Iranian nuclear facilities, then to get a torrent of abuse from gulf states, and then have it leaked how desperate they are for Iran to be bombed.... its a very scary and dangerous place to be.

        The fun is over... only bad things can happen from going on

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        • #5
          Thanks faramog,

          You raised some interesting points...

          Originally posted by faramog View Post
          As usual, America is blaming everyone else and banging on about the death penalty and assasination ... so much for 'the land of the free' .. Its the animal farm analogy with all pigs being equal, but some being more equal than others.

          Good analogy with Animal Farm, its funny that the USA has no real laws regarding secrets - but are the most vocal about wikileaks. While Britain and Australia do have secrecy laws, but have kept rather quite. Land of the Free... my arse!

          Don't get me wrong. I am no wikilead apologist. Its mildly ammusing but the diplomatic back chat has to be straight talking personal views - what else is useful ?

          I don't think releasing all the 300K + files is a good thing - he's made his point. The original leak is in the good old US of A.

          Here's where I disagree, without continual leaks, our governments will never be held accountable for there disgraceful actions. Nothing wrong in this world will change while we keep protecting those that lie to the public.

          I am all for free speech and democracy, but in the world of international politics and trade, secrets are an absolute necessity. Just look how embarrasing it would have been had, say Israel bombed the Iranian nuclear facilities, then to get a torrent of abuse from gulf states, and then have it leaked how desperate they are for Iran to be bombed.... its a very scary and dangerous place to be.

          The fun is over... only bad things can happen from going on

          Bad things are happening now, and will continue to happen. All wikileaks did was tell the public what happened, if wikileaks wasn't here, all that would change is you would not know. The only way to stop these atrocities is to show the governments that they will not get away with it, they will not be able to cover it up. If wikileaks stays around, governments will have to think twice before fabricating evidence, and if they are exposed - people will never vote for them again.
          We had freedom of the press only a few decades ago, and the system worked just fine with very little secrets. This notion that governments must have secrets is absurd, why? Why does a memo need to be classified for 50 years? Why does a document or patent need to be classified indefinitely?

          I look at wikileaks more positively, if we ever do get UFO or Free Energy disclosure, it will be through them. Wikileaks have only just scratched the surface of our corrupt society - wait until they have Big Corporation Leaks.
          Then watch the turds hit the fan!

          Red

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          • #6
            I got a real kick out of Sara Palin yelling that he should be thrown in prison for "Treason!"... I guess one of her aids had to take her aside and explain that treason is only valid for citizens of a country they "betray"... not for foreigners to that country, in which case it is actually not betrayal; it is simply freedom of speech.

            "Palin for Pres!" The ultimate Celebration of Ignorance

            Then we have the US politician clowns publicly calling for his assassination (... because they realize he didn't actually break any US laws; the only "logical" answer to them is to kill him, lol).

            In the old days, these would be the same people who always wanted to stone someone in the village

            Mitch McConnel of the US Senate wanted a whole new set of Laws quickly passed, so they could do something to Assange... Lol history could call these the

            "McConnel-Reid Anti-Truth Statutes" or something to that effect

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            • #7
              infowars it is

              Infowars it is!

              YouTube - Smearing the Wiki Messenger!

              /Hob
              Hob Nilre
              http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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              • #8
                This leak smells bad. It may be an elaborate hoax to push new cyber laws through. Are we to believe that the powers that be would really let this happen in the first place? I don't think so.

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                • #9
                  Ditto jibbguy. When the President of the U.S. asks the CIA for classified information and they cross out what they dont want known,then its no longer a Democracy. Period! The DIA controls all this information. They are comprised of both civilians and military personnel. I can see some classified materiel forbidden to most but not the President. If anyone in the NSA,CIA,or DIA screw up then they need to be accountable.
                  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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                  • #10
                    Wow! What great posts!

                    jibguy,
                    I missed that Sarah Palin blunder. Thanks!
                    I think the new law will be called the 'Freedom of Government Act', we are free to do what we want Act.


                    Iotajodi,
                    With you 100% mate!!!!


                    Zooty,
                    It's great you are skeptical, yes we never know which wikileaks documents are real or government misinformation. I judge how
                    real they are by how angry the governments get?
                    We the people, have to fight for a free internet, or all is lost forever!


                    Nilrehob,
                    GREAT VIDEO! EVERYONE WATCH IT!
                    I think the Israel files are coming April 5th, he couldn't release them at the start otherwise mainstream media would of been silent and never printed anything. He builds his following with exposing the USA, then when he posts Israel they have to report it too. I think this will be a pivotal point in history, the world will wake up and realize our leaders are all frauds.

                    Red

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                    • #11
                      The US is NOT suppose to be a Democracy. It's suppose to be a Republic. So let's stop falling for this brain washing propaganda that a Democracy is something to be preserved and the American way.

                      Benjamin Franklin : "A democracy is two wolves and a small lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Freedom under a constitutional REPUBLIC is a well armed lamb contesting the vote"

                      As far as Assange, he's a useful idiot and was set up as far as I can tell.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RedRightHand View Post
                        Nilrehob,
                        GREAT VIDEO! EVERYONE WATCH IT!
                        I think the Israel files are coming April 5th, he couldn't release them at the start otherwise mainstream media would of been silent and never printed anything. He builds his following with exposing the USA, then when he posts Israel they have to report it too. I think this will be a pivotal point in history, the world will wake up and realize our leaders are all frauds.

                        Red
                        Do you think the leaked Israeli documents will have info like this:
                        "Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College, on audio. The video details evidence on why it is 100% certain that Israel did 9/11 and the official story is a pack of lies."
                        Director US Army WarCollege says Israeli Mossad Did 911, page 1

                        Something shorter than that won't make it.

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                        • #13
                          As soon as I found out that Julian Assanges lawyer was also Rothschilds family lawyer (Mark Stephens - he looks after the finances of Waddesdon manor, their biggest UK property), it made me more than a little suspicious of who was really behind this wikileaks sensation (as others have pointed out already - what on earth was actually found out?).

                          How does wikileaks afford the same lawyer as the richest family in history? They must be getting some great donations!

                          By the way - a group of hackers known as the anonymous have vowed to get revenge for assange by hacking into banks that freeze wikileaks accounts...and theyve already started!!!

                          Hackers Hit MasterCard in WikiLeaks Funding Revenge

                          So expect new attempts to stop freedom on the net. Lets hope they dont stop good sites like this one, eh?

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                          • #14
                            some people

                            Originally posted by faramog View Post
                            As usual, America is blaming everyone else and banging on about the death penalty and assasination
                            Not America - SOME people in America.
                            Sincerely,
                            Aaron Murakami

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                            • #15
                              There is no saint.

                              ex.
                              Jewish people caused the hate against themselves in Germany, they use to buy all the food and re sell at expensive prices, so they have explored the hungry of the people, than the church (Vatican), joined with Hitler for managing to kill their eternal enemy. So guess what, war finished and the Papa protected sending all the nazis around the world with new identities, and most of them became priests on the churches around the world.

                              Who was right? Anyone. Both was wrong. The basis of the genocide was the capitalism.

                              I'm saying this just to illustrate what is happening since long time ago.

                              Manipulation of information, power...

                              Sadam Hussein was the classical american toy as much as osama bin laden, and other terrorists, Now they have killed sadam and want obamas head, cause they now have new toys. Who commands this all is not the president, is the general is the chief of the strategy team of the gov, those generals you can't choose by vote. They were chosen and domesticated by the powerful bankers, and energy sources controllers.

                              This man, Julian Assange, in my point of view, is one that understood all this and used his knowledge to try to show everyone the corruption behind the government institutions. He made very clear now to the world the presence of real conspiracy, even if the people is very far from understanding the real meaning of this and less yet who controls the world.

                              He is one of the heroes from our new world.

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