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  • #16
    The video is spot on

    Originally posted by Rod74 View Post
    What Dr. Stiffler is working on along with this:

    ww.youtube.com/watch?v=LWO93G-zLZ0

    Will turn the ocean into our power source and clean the planet at the same time.

    Our Navy is putting everything they have on this technology. If we don't develop it first, we will be a third world country unable to project military force.
    Thanks for the video link, spot on or there abouts, I could not do a better video myself.

    Now where else have I heard of luminesence? Ah yes, Meyer! but I wonder if he really knew what was happening!

    Mike

    Ps. The interesting part for me is the LF.

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    • #17
      Jibbguy News Flash of 5/16/2011 Jibbguy has crystallized a fresh new Science~Synergy!

      Originally posted by jibbguy View Post
      What compresses from water column pressure is the gasses suspended in water. I dunno if there would actually be enough gasses there trapped in the water to have any significant energy content when the vessel is brought to the surface or not, though.

      But what is probably a good and viable energy source (if efficient ways of harvesting it are found), is energy from "thermocline" temperature gradients.
      That's an extremely good comment you posted Jibbguy => "actually be enough gasses there trapped in the water to have any significant energy content". I am not sufficiently schooled in the nature of gases|gasses to answer the question you have raised. However, we do know that airborne gas molecules are so expanded out they are barely affected by Gravity so they can float above the ground <> that tells us VOLUMES. Oxygen when compressed at 4,361 psi becomes an extremely cold liquid (minus 320 F, molecular motion slowed to a crawl). And yet on the ocean bottom it isn't minus 320, so I would postulate that the water pressure towards ocean bottoms should be BOILING HOT so apparently the small amount of compressed air [and whatever other natural gaseous elements down there] must be what prevents the oceans from BOILING AWAY FROM THEIR OWN PRESSURE (8 tons per square inch at 30,000 feet water depth).

      Jibbguy, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seriously

      looks like you've opened up a completely new Science...

      Not to mention that you have opened my mind to my own invention:

      Ocean Energy is also an Air-Powered Engine.

      What you may not know Jibbguy is that in 2003 I completed the work of NASA aerospace & aeronautics Shuttle Design Engineer Dr. Abraham Hertzberg (I always give credit where it is due ~JIBBGUY~) completing his compressed-nitrogen "air-powered" engine by adding steam heat energy ((not the steam's pressure as was previously always used)), so that steam is pre-injected ahead of liquid air into the engine cylinder; SO what we have here is water pressure ~& WATER HEAT~ supplying the extra catalyst energy for Ocean Energy as I defined it in the above YouTube link & video we put online just last 12/10/2010. I should've seen it but it took YOU to jar me awake. You, Jibbguy, you have in essence supplied the Missing Link => the missing puzzle piece => the true Ocean Energy Power Source: Jibbguy-defined.

      Ocean Weight + Ocean Temperature + Gravity

      Air+ Water plus Gravity+Temperature Extremes plus Air Rebounder Energy

      HA HA I found another air-powered engine!!!

      I salute you Sir Jibbguy


      p.s.

      Pressure at 30,000 ft. is likely much greater than 4,361 psi,

      so we're talking a Super State Change Explosion.

      ....

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      • #18
        Wow...this is some Francis E. Dec quality stuff here...

        There are some severe conceptual errors here.

        PV=nRT is the gas law. This is first year, fluid dynamics/chemistry stuff

        where P is pressure, V is volume, n=number of molecules, R is the constant, and T is the temperature in Kelvin.

        If you compress a set amount of oxygen (so that n is contant, the R is constant), its temperature increases, not decreases.

        An easy, real world example of this is a CO2 extinguisher. When one fires off the extinguisher, the volume that the gas occupies increases rapidly. The compressed room temperature gas is allowed to escape into a much large volume. This causes the canister to rapidly drop in temperature (enough that you could burn yourself).

        Cloudseeder...you are using bad assumptions that don't predict observable behavior.

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        • #19
          Ocean mechanical energy is quite different from ocean thermal energy. Even though the sun affects all ocean activity, tides are driven primarily by the gravitational pull of the moon, and waves are driven primarily by the winds

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