The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[plengo]

Great work. You have replicated the first stage of the motor generator.
You have all ready seen the first positive results of the multi pulse at work.
as you said you now get more current back. do you have that capacitor in circuit I refer to as C12?
there is a ideal amount of pulses per RPM = frequency. do you adjust the duty cycle in relation to the total PWM. have you been able to calculate the ratio of energy in verses energy out.

Tried something new today. I have had this idea I have been think about for a while now. I put the coils inside the rotor.

No I am not using C12 yet. Actually I am very far from your design. I am still in setting up phase of my motor. I ordered the parts that is needed so I am only using one mosfet to pulse the motor and playing more with the programming side of things.

It is interesting to see those effects already with not even close to your design though.

I also have not measured the output since it is so far from the ideal but soon I will. Concerning the pulses and PWD, no, i am not doing that yet. It will take me a little bit of learning this Arduino to be able to calculate the RPM and pulse relatively to it.

Fausto.

[toranarod]

This free hump IMHO is a standing wave that is created when the coil is switched off.Its frequency depends on the length of the wire.

There is another setup of a Spanish experimenter, consisting coils of high real resistance (not impedance!). (Both have together about 68 Ohms)
The duty cycle is 25% . He did not mention that the device does not heat up , but claims to have overunity (by the values published in his blog). So heat is less likely.
His circuit is really simple:
El Motor Adams
I have ordered the magnetic sheet allready.(I will rebuild his device)
And if anyone has build up the setup like him he/she should publish the facts observed. I think its a conversion of heat into force / hence electricity.

Thank you for the link to the Spanish Motor. You have convinced me I am going to wind some hi resistance coils. I need to make data comparisons and publish the results.

interesting how his sine wave is identical, this is defiantly the correct course to the Adams motor.

thanks for the link
cheers

[toranarod]

if watt calculations are getting confusing and hard to measure
Please give this a try.

I also use this as a way of tunning the motor. just watch the voltage rise and fall as you make changes the lower the voltage the better

[iflewmyown]

Thanks for all the info on the adams motor and for sharing so freely. I am in the middle of another project but I watch this thread every day.
Garry

[toranarod]

Thanks for all the info on the adams motor and for sharing so freely. I am in the middle of another project but I watch this thread every day.
Garry

Thank you for saying so.
I have been on forums and you tube and so on through out the years. I seen a lot of amazing machines and way out claims about free energy devices.
The One thing that always stands out is the inventor will not share there discovers or it is eventually announced as a hoax. Or it is patented and then just finishes of the face of the earth.
Free energy is all of a sudden not so free any more.

Its not a good energy device that needs to be created its the human condition that needs to change.

My passion became the pursuit of such energy devices and to document them in great detail and publish the results on any forum or website that was receptive to this information. to do what so many other seemed reluctant to do. If such a machine to truly possible it would become available to every one.

[nodrog]

In consideration of the physical layout look at the first picture on this site: http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/#top

The first pic on this site shows the configuration preferred by Robert Adams subsequent to his published motor design. This layout, with the coils and magnets set out at 90 degrees to the radial style, is considered to be safer, more efficient and provides access to both sides of the magnet.

My current motor is like this but with 18 x 12mm dia x 5mm thick magnets, bipolar and with low frequency mechanical switching at the moment. No transistors and no overunity. I am only using one bifilar coil at the moment to drive the motor but this layout will potentially provide a wide range of physical setups.

With this configuration I could easily place a total of 36 coils to drive the rotor or generate or any combination of the two.

Adams also strongly suggested using bifilar coils since they can give far greater flexibility with experimentation. For example, one bifilar coil can both drive a motor and generate power using independent circuits.

Also, as mentioned by someone else earlier, an old VCR play head makes an excellent friction free motor axle and assembly. IMHO, far better than a hard drive spindle as is commonly used. The 6mm SS shaft with matching roller bearings and mounting platform is very high precision engineered. My 170mm diameter rotor takes two or three minutes to run down after power off. (I can make a coffee and it's still spinning when I get back to it.)

I am happy with the basic physical layout but I need and hope to upgrade electronically sometime soon. :-)

Kind regards, nodrog.

[plengo]

if watt calculations are getting confusing and hard to measure
Please give this a try.

I also use this as a way of tunning the motor. just watch the voltage rise and fall as you make changes the lower the voltage the better

Today I am implementing this design with different mosfets for now until the correct mosfest arrive.

I am in the process of laying out the programming logic to correctly pulse each part. Soon I will record a video.

Fausto.

[toranarod]

Today I am implementing this design with different mosfets for now until the correct mosfest arrive.

I am in the process of laying out the programming logic to correctly pulse each part. Soon I will record a video.

Fausto.

any good MOSFETS will do as long as the RDS on is low. Resistance Drain to Source. if you can find a better one than my Q3 will be good. P channel is harder to get.

[toranarod]

bifilar coils

You have presented some very valuable ideas and I agree bifilar coils are on my to-do list, you are right they are easy to wire because they are isolated from the circuit.
Even with Bifilar coils they load down a motor in the same way. Navigating the magnetic field is what I see must be learned first.
I am only a milliamp from 1 to 1 ratio with the drive coils and any thing over that is over that. OU.
I hear what most of you are saying my electronics is to complex for this type of motor
And I agree. In a final working unit it will be a analog switching device as you have described, In order to get to that I need to know just how it will need to work. The processor circuit will show us that. My understanding of the Adams motor is growing daily.

The diagram below shows some energy that I need to try and tap into with out incurring to much load.

[nodrog]

Hi Toranarod

Your electronics are complex but valuable and possibly essential for gaining as thorough am understanding of what forces and energies are at play. Once we have exhausted our capacity to research, to trial and experiment we probably have only scratched the surface. Your understanding and abilities, in particular, give people like me a window into a world of research and understanding that we can barely grasp let alone emulate. I, and others too have indicated similarly, am extremely grateful for your willingness to share and explain your work thus far.

Keep up the good work and don't hold back. ;-)

Kind regards, nodrog.

[Michelinho]

Arduino Uno.

Hi all,

This little board uses shields to adapt to different projects, motor control is one of them and the software for it is under the GPL License. Powerfull processing under Windows, Mac OS X or Linux.

Arduino - HomePage

Arduino is an open-source electronics prototyping platform based on flexible, easy-to-use hardware and software. It's intended for artists, designers, hobbyists, and anyone interested in creating interactive objects or environments.

Arduino can sense the environment by receiving input from a variety of sensors and can affect its surroundings by controlling lights, motors, and other actuators. The microcontroller on the board is programmed using the Arduino programming language (based on Wiring) and the Arduino development environment (based on Processing). Arduino projects can be stand-alone or they can communicate with software on running on a computer (e.g. Flash, Processing, MaxMSP).

It is cheaper than buying the parts separately and building an equivalent circuit.

Take care all,

Michel

[plengo]

Today I received my ordered parts from Digikey and also the coils and controller from Toranarod. The coils are so perfect. I see how much different they are from my coils.

I also cooked my Arduino controller and had to stop working on it for 2 days - bummer. I have been trying to post a 10 minutes video of my first setup BUT youtube keep refusing the format of the video even when I converted it to many different formats very strange.

So today I will change my setup for the new coils and the new controller and see what happens.

Fausto.

[toranarod]

cold current

great you received your parts. use the 9 mill Henri's as driver coils I will explain why in future post. there is so much to work through.


As you can see from the photo below I was able to draw current from the portion of the sine wave as I was suggesting. You can see inside the blue box where the sine wave was beginning to be clipped. The more I clipped into the voltage the more load there was placed on the motor. This did not translate to any usable energy back to the battery.
The experiment kind of failed. But not completely. I found while I was manipulating the timing of the wave form there was a sudden increase in motor RPM. A considerable increase in RPM and there was no extra consumption of current. This took me in another direction.. There is more cold current present than was first obvious I needed to write quite bit software to make this accessible. I will explain this in post to come. Very difficult to understand. But Adams was a genius.

[plengo]

Hey Rod,

today I fired the circuit with the new coils and controller. I noticed that the controller is using about 40ma of current and it is only pulsing twice per magnet pass.

Is it possible to upload to this controller new code? Do you have updates?

So I am playing with the timing and I am able to trigger anywhere in the sine wave. As you mentioned on the tip of the sine wave is the best place and most efficient. I did not install the generator coils BUT I did just put them on the end of the driver coils and it does not affect the power consumption and only slow down a little bit the speed. So I guess one could use that way too to generate power.

It is running from 100ma + the 40ma of the board up to 500ma depending of the positioning of the hall-effect and if I am using the C12 cap or not. Around 100 uf seems to be the best in improving speed but still incur more power consumption.

RPM can go from 200 to 600rpm.

Funny enough with the Arduino I was able to run this at 5ma but not counting how much the board was using since it was fed by the USB power.

My scope at 25mhz is not good enough to show signals as you are posting. May be I am not putting the scope probes on the right place. When the probe is placed cross the driver coil I can see kind of like what you show BUT no way to show the full induced sine wave of the magnet passing by and the BEMF in one nice and clean scope shot. What is the trick???

Anyway I just purchased a 200mhz USB scope where I hope to get better in the measurements.

I like your view point on things and it is inspiring me to learn in how to measure and observe things better. When I played with Adams motor about 5 years ago I did not think as clear and critically as you are doing this thing so I must say THANK YOU dude for sharing and teaching.

My magnets are neos with 1400 gauss measure with a Tesla meter (140 mT).

Fausto.

[toranarod]