The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[toranarod]

The micro controller consumption

Run the control unit from another battery.
Keep the supply separate for the motor as I have shown in my schematics.
The electricity consumption of the electronics is not and should not be factored into the power consumption of the motor.

The micro controller is only a tool used for the research. It is a tool to help us develop an understanding of what the final system may work like.

The motor generator we have on the bench at the moment is only a miniature toy for research. I am looking at the bigger picture I have much larger units and designee changes already in manufacture. All this work will continue to develop.

I believe I have already established one core function that I am transferring to the next working unit.

An industrial unit of 100 times its capacity would generate some much more energy. The micro controller consumption would be negligible in a much larger system. There are many solutions to the control system. nanno watt processors and so on even as you said strip down the unit of all unnecessary components We just need to understand the architecture.

[plengo]

Thank you Rod,

I was wondering if it was indeed possible to use this controller as you mention using a separate source of power. I will look into the previous posts to see how I can do that.

You're right, on a bigger machine the consumption of the control unit is nothing.

Fausto.

[plengo]

Hey Rod,

I was looking everywhere in your documents how to connect a battery separated from the input power of the board BUT I am not able to figure it out.

Can you show me how? many thanks.

Fausto.

[toranarod]

Hey Rod,

I was looking everywhere in your documents how to connect a battery separated from the input power of the board BUT I am not able to figure it out.

Can you show me how? many thanks.

Fausto.

[plengo]

Rod,

thank you man. Now i understand what you have done. It is very clever. You have many modules that can be used independent and also in combos. Now I see how I can use the driver board that I have and build a new "coil driver" module triggered by the first board.

I was a little confused with all the pictures you posted but now I see. Very clever indeed. Expandability is the name of the game!!!

I will build the coil driver as you showed and run the system again. Videos will come very soon. I am having a little difficulty with YouTube for some strange reason. None of my videos are being "converted" by them. I have to figure out which "conversion" process is the best for quality.

Fausto.

[toranarod]

high voltage

Yes Rod a screen shot from the scope.
thanks

I am still seeing the same results. The voltage in the battery goes up during the day and returns to a few mill volts from where it started.

I am starting to give some consideration to the concept of zero point energy

I am not a person to believe in such things easily. But where is the extra electrons coming from? I have been reading up on the concept. they make some good arguments for it.


cheers

[toranarod]

cold current

I think this like is a good read and relevant to this research.

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter5.pdf

[ltseung888]

Theory behind Pulse motors

Dear Rod,

I just came across your fine work a few hours ago. You are definitely on the right track. I have finished the computer model on bringing-in kinetic energy of air molecules. I am working on bringing in gravitational and magnetic energy via Pulsed Rotation. Some thoughts are available in the following. I also reproduce it here. If you do not mind, I shall quote your work and the Adams Motor as further support in addition to the Tong Wheel. Best Wishes.

http://www.energeticforum.com/newrep...reply&p=136692

The Theory behind the Tong Wheel

3. Pulsed rotation is the mechanism to bring-in the gravitational energy. The pulsing should be at the correct resonance frequency. In this case, the Tong Wheel must be in the vertical plane. (Continued)

The detailed physics and mathematics is available under the thread:
Divine Revelation 2 - Bringing-in of Gravitational Energy

One often asked question is – If I continuously supply energy to a wheel, it will rotate faster and thus store that energy. Why should I pulse rotate it?

This is an excellent question and worth some thought.

I shall use an analogy here. If someone pushes a swing with great force at the wrong frequency, he may still be able to get the swing to go to a high position. He does not need to rely on the bring-in gravitational energy to help him. In the brute force push, some energy is wasted in opposing or slowing down the motion of the swing. It is not the most efficient way.

If we continuously supply energy to a rotating wheel, the situation will be similar. The conventional engineering design thought is to get the wheel to rotate fast; add a heavy flywheel to maintain the speed of rotation. Ignore any bring-in energy. Just use the brute force energy.

The Pulse Wheel design thought is to provide the minimum Input Energy and use the bring-in energy as much as possible. The rotational speed may be much slower. It may change to match the load. A resonance condition needs to be found. That resonance condition is expected to change with different loads.

Thus the Pulse Wheel design may need a computer program to alter the pulsing rate and/or duration to match the load. I believe that this was done in the Liang Wheel and the 225 HP motor. Both claimed to have achieved hundreds of Output Horse Power.

With the Human Race, once a workable solution is found, they may ignore other better methods. In this forum, we actively seek other methods. Amen.

[toranarod]

Dear Rod,

I just came across your fine work a few hours ago. You are definitely on the right track. I have finished the computer model on bringing-in kinetic energy of air molecules. I am working on bringing in gravitational and magnetic energy via Pulsed Rotation. Some thoughts are available in the following. I also reproduce it here. If you do not mind, I shall quote your work and the Adams Motor as further support in addition to the Tong Wheel. Best Wishes.

http://www.energeticforum.com/newrep...reply&p=136692

I am total open source supporter. You may use any of my post and documents in support of new energy devices.
My passion became the pursuit of such energy devices and to document them in great detail and publish the results on any forum or website that was receptive to this information. for me its not about making money Its a about.change moving out of this draconian mind set they have us in. revolution.

what do you know about the frequency? I already observed some frequency s work better than others

[ltseung888]

I am total open source supporter. You may use any of my post and documents in support of new energy devices.
My passion became the pursuit of such energy devices and to document them in great detail and publish the results on any forum or website that was receptive to this information. for me its not about making money Its a about.change moving out of this draconian mind set they have us in. revolution.

What do you know about the frequency? I already observed some frequency s work better than others

@toranarod,

Thank you for the speedy reply. I totally support your generosity in sharing your hard earned knowledge with the World. You have clearly demonstrated the importance of sharp pulsing at the right time. I am sure that you will succeed in the programming of matching (or resonating) the supplied power with the load. You will be one of the first to appreciate the multiple wheels on same axle as used by the Liang or the 225 HP Wheels.

The experiments with the Tong Wheel convinced me that the pulsing frequency is a function of the load. The Tong Wheel rotated at different speeds depending on load.

I would like to reproduce the post in the Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in thread on the use of back EMF for your attention. If you have two oscilloscopes, you can compare the Input Instantaneous Power and the Output Instantaneous Power. You can then confirm that COP is in fact greater than 1.

At the correct (resonance?) position, the Input RMS voltage and current will drop significantly. The Output RMS voltage will rise very significantly. The Output RMS current may drop a little. The resulting Output Power will be greater than the Input Power.

Have fun and continue to post your findings.

Lawrence

The bringing-in of electromagnetic energy via back EMF

A quick understanding can be obtained by looking at the introductory video on Back EMF by Peter Lindermann

YouTube - what back EMF is

As you may already know, an electric motor takes in electricity and spins a shaft (or converts electrical energy into mechanical energy). An electricity generator is just the opposite. A rotating shaft on the Generator produces electricity. (or converts mechanical energy to electrical energy).

Normally we call the force (or voltage) to produce motion as the ElectroMagnetic Force (EMF). If we suddenly stop that force, we can observe a voltage in the opposite direction (back EMF). With a steady rotating motor, the back EMF is also present. It acts effectively as an opposing voltage – lowering or reducing the effective voltage. This is commonly known as Lenz’s Law. The conventional thought is – provide extra voltage (EMF) to overcome it. Thus the conventional motors run hot and energy is wasted to overcome this back EMF.

What happens if we suddenly stop an input DC voltage and thus DC input current? From the oscilloscope, we can observe the change in waveform. Instead of a sharp end to the waveform, we see a voltage spike and hence current in the opposite direction. This spike can have magnitude much greater than the supplied DC voltage. For example, a 12V DC battery can produce a -30V peak voltage. Note the negative sign.

The interesting question is – what happens if we have a pulsed DC supply? Can the bring-in energy produce a back EMF much higher than the supplied DC voltage? Can that higher back EMF contain more energy than the Input Energy?

The analogy question is – if we push a pendulum horizontally with 2 units of energy, 1 unit of gravitational energy can be brought-in. The resulting effective input energy to the pendulum system is 3 units. The pendulum bob swings higher or the amplitude of the swing is higher. There is more energy stored in the system than the 2 units of supplied horizontal energy.

If electron motion energy can be brought-in, how would that extra energy exhibit itself? The answer from the Oscilloscope is – from the much higher back EMF. This higher back EMF (voltage) can produce a higher current. The resulting back Power (voltage x current) may be more than the supplied Power (voltage x current).

The secret is how to get this higher resulting back Power into a usable form.

One technique used on the Pulse Rotation devices is to use a separate set of Collector Coils to collect such energy into usable electrical energy. That energy will be AC in nature but will not be sinusoidal as observed on the oscilloscope.

Another technique is to use the same coil as both Drive and Collector and use electronic techniques to separate them.

I personally prefer the separate coil mechanism as I had success with it in the Tong Wheel.

Devine Revelation 2 is getting clearer and clearer. The water has been turned into wine. We shall have many wine servers to further interpret and serve it. Many thanks to the Almighty for providing us with such inexhaustible, non-polluting energy. Amen.

[whynot2011]

Thank u toranarod,i'm Chinese and recently focus on Adams motor.i'm not good at English,reading slow and writting err,i have'nt read all of this thread,but have so much enlightment already.thx all of u
i have made a bedini motor,but it can't OU.i'v tested two kind of coil core,iron and ferrite.Iron give more current output but ferrite seems make the system more efficient,but both of them can't make the system OU.Now,after reading your excellent sharing, i think it's because of the pulse out of control.Trigger coil maybe not a good pulse controlling,it seems make the pulse always too wide.
I think the pulse control circuit is quite good,but is there any simple resolvent?like use LED and photoresistor through a tunable gap etc.?i have'nt read all of this thread perhaps other one already have tried this,i want to know the result.
Now i want to share my information to you.i gathered this information from a friend,who have a GIFT of receiving information from somewhere we may not be understand.Many year ago he told me the energy is not conservation,and always increases itself.He said human being would find the way to obtain the eternal energy.first of all,we must know there is not such thing of electron,he said electron is low frequency wave,and wave is current.but energy increment is far less than it in high frequency area,for instance,nucleus.eternal energy can be lead out from the imbalance of the energy self increment.
unfortunately my friend didn't tell details of energy technic,he said all the details are gifts,scattered in the mind of the angels on the world,who work hard for the future of the human being.
with my best regard,all of u

[toranarod]

its all in the timming

Thank u toranarod,i'm Chinese and recently focus on Adams motor.i'm not good at English,reading slow and writting err,i have'nt read all of this thread,but have so much enlightment already.thx all of u
i have made a bedini motor,but it can't OU.i'v tested two kind of coil core,iron and ferrite.Iron give more current output but ferrite seems make the system more efficient,but both of them can't make the system OU.Now,after reading your excellent sharing, i think it's because of the pulse out of control.Trigger coil maybe not a good pulse controlling,it seems make the pulse always too wide.
I think the pulse control circuit is quite good,but is there any simple resolvent?like use LED and photoresistor through a tunable gap etc.?i have'nt read all of this thread perhaps other one already have tried this,i want to know the result.
Now i want to share my information to you.i gathered this information from a friend,who have a GIFT of receiving information from somewhere we may not be understand.Many year ago he told me the energy is not conservation,and always increases itself.He said human being would find the way to obtain the eternal energy.first of all,we must know there is not such thing of electron,he said electron is low frequency wave,and wave is current.but energy increment is far less than it in high frequency area,for instance,nucleus.eternal energy can be lead out from the imbalance of the energy self increment.
unfortunately my friend didn't tell details of energy technic,he said all the details are gifts,scattered in the mind of the angels on the world,who work hard for the future of the human being.
with my best regard,all of u

I have read your very interesting post many times, I think I understand
Thank you.
great to see you working on the motor.
try to setup a soothed wheel next to the hall sensor.
it would be possible to control the timing mechanically.
I will be posting more very soon.
good luck

[whynot2011]

I have read your very interesting post many times, I think I understand
Thank you.
great to see you working on the motor.
try to setup a soothed wheel next to the hall sensor.
it would be possible to control the timing mechanically.
I will be posting more very soon.
good luck

Use toothed wheel to tune the shape of magnetic field?Waiting for your further post.
The efficiency of Adams motor is fairly high,even when it is not configured in OU.but the torque seems less than general electromotor？I mean,if the output power is the same,is Adams motor heavier than other motor?Or to say,can we reduce the weight of Adams motor?
sorry about so many questions.I'm seeking a new blue print of power supply using by vehicles,or ships,or aerocrafts.
I guess the torque is very small when the motor runs in "cold current" isn't it?
regard.

[toranarod]

push Pull

Hello
I have been going over the data collected and looked at what we have achieved verses what’s not working satisfactorily.
The functional part is the cold current reversal and the hysteresis of the magnetic field of the iron core. If the theory is correct?
We also seem to be able to take advantage of the radiant energy collected by returning the back EMF to the battery. Even with the fact the battery can be stabilized not to discharge there is more current going to supply drive than is being returned. I have a constant calculated drain of 1.5millamps off set by radiant energy in the led acid battery. We need more torque so there can be current generated by the drive coils to turn another generator to push a bit more current into the battery to go Over Unity. Well that’s the idea?
I have been working on a side project for the Adams motor when I discovered something very interesting. Pulsing current in attraction mode when the magnet approaches the coils, increases torque. What if we did both?
Attract the magnet to the coils by enhancing the magnetic felid in the iron core then reversing the effects on the way out by adding a bit more to the hysteresis effect.
If this could be done right would it save more energy and at the same time create more torque while collecting the EMF radiant energy.
It just means reversing the polarity of the voltage while in circuit. That’s where it gets difficult get the timing wrong and blow up the electronics.


Here is a preliminary circuit I have drafted but not tested.
I will build it a few days and have some data to present.
The interesting thing is the circuit now has a full wave rectifier.
Any thoughts on this idea?

Cheers Rod

[toranarod]

Note. when Sw 1 is closed the motor accelerates?
I have noticed while collecting the Back EMF and returning it to the battery.
Motor runs considerably faster?

this has become an important observation
If I have the motor running in an efficient mode and I open SW1, it will actually stop