The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[toranarod]

Hi folks, Hi toranarod, I read in your pdf that you ran a test for 24 hours and the 12 volt drive battery actually gained some 20 millivots, that is great. Have you run it any longer than that, like say a week and then let it rest to see where the voltage goes. Thanks.
Here is a pic of the motor coils I will be using. It seems to demagnetize fairly well, though not sure if the steel washers add any benefit, though it repels a 1" dia. x 3/4" neo magnet at fairly close range to face of core at 12 volts. The coil is just over 2 ohms, 24 gauge.



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peace love light
Tyson

nice coil
looks like that should work very well.I hope you can show us the hole setup when its ready?
I have had my motor running for the last two days and the battery voltage
has maintained at stable. the results are exciting 48 hours on two lead acid batteries, voltage level maintained at 25.28 volts for 48 HRS.
one interesting observation the battery voyages dope a few mill volts during the night and replenish during the day. Whats that all about? anybody got a
hypothesis on that

cheers Rod

[caru]

nice coil
...
one interesting observation the battery voyages dope a few mill volts during the night and replenish during the day. Whats that all about? anybody got a
hypothesis on that

According to Bearden, during the day the vacuum is disturbed by sun rays... I don't know if that's real and/or if that's correlated to your finding...

What happens to the voltage if you let the battery rest for an hour or so?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi toranarod, thanks for comments. It should work well, I'll start with 4 coils, 2 coils on each side of rotor that has 6 neo magnets. Then I can add more later. Of course I'll show the finished motor and hope to share similar results as yours eventually. I'm modifying my air coil motor structure for this setup, of course without the air-core coils.
As far as it dropping a little voltage during night, that sure seems like evidence of tapping an energy of some kind and this energy varies from night to day.
peace love light
Tyson

[RustyP]

cooling water

I thought there wasn’t a document on an idea about OU I had not seen.
But I am completely wrong.
This concept of extracting an electrical charge form the cooling water is new to me. I am very interested in perusing any concept that has valid credentials form genuine OU People. Specially when you say it was an RB concept.

Any thing I can do for you. You got it.
All the information you need I will post it here or email it to you.
Many Thanks Rod

Extracting energy from cooling water like most of what Robert Adams did was not shown to very many people and I am not aware of anyone else who has replicated that setup. During the last 10 years of his life Robert built several amazing thermo motors some of which he destroyed because he was afraid of there power and did not know how to manage them. You will not be able to find any corrobative info on extracting energy from cooling water as there were several parts to it he wanted to develope for financial gain. He was also watched closely by a group here in NZ connected to a group of oil companies who regularly sent some-one around to warn him they were watching him. So he was caught between a rock and a hard place but he believed he could do it with enough money backing him but unfortunately he ran out of time.

The energy in the water I think must be pure radiant energy as it behaves exactly the opposite of the Electricity we know and normally work with. So if you have hot water coming out of coil cores and want to cool it in a cylinder and get electricity out you think how you use electricity to heat water.

The reason the water is hot is NOT because of the current in the coils but because there is another element in the rotor between the magnets. This is NOT bismuth as some have supposed and is not radioactive. It is fairly common material and close to Bi.

[RustyP]

The over unity is a very dynamic affect and is constantly changing with load and other variables.
In a real time application such as home power generation you are going to need more than a 3055 transistor to keep the system balanced an producing the most efficient out put.
I have seen the system need many tuning variables as condition change.
Processors can measure time in micro seconds nothing is hit or miss and hope for the best it will be an exact science.
I have already started writing up and deigning system parameter. These motor will self start in under unity situation and the computer will then switch to over unity drive and then monitor a over unit percentage ratio and maintain the ration at a fixed rpm it will measure load and if It can not keep up bring in another generator bank. This is some of the ways theses units will function.
We can now use the latest electronics technologies such as nano watt processors that have fast computing power and draw less current than one 3055 Base emitter on current.
I plan to put generators like this in the hands of those who need it the most and move it out of the back yard shed. People want plug and play set and forget.
It will all be Open source I will disclose all designs to the public nothing will be patented
Every thing will be open source.
If theses OU devices are to run efficiently, reliably and maintenance free. and be excepted by the general population. It need to goto the next level.

Yes good idea unfortunately Greed spoils this idea for most. Robert put his first patent in the Public Domain for every-one to see and use but left out quite a bit of important info as he wanted people to have to work to get it which is exactly what you guys are doing now. But as a result it has taken nearly 20 years for people to catch up to where he was in the early 90s. He then set about trying to stop others from patenting his ideas and so excluding the general public from having free access to the info and became a little obsessed with that. It was at the time he put the original adams motor in the public domain that he knew he was onto the thermo motor and so abandoned taking that design any further as he was off in a new direction then. If you wanted to get hold of all the info available you may be able to get it but the person who has it wants money and control of it I think. Do you want to talk to me directly? Unfortunately they are not as generous as you seem to be, money gets in the way of so many good projects.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I'm working on the coils still and I misstated the core bolt diameter, they are 1/4" dia.. I reworked my other motor setup and mounted the rotor and one coil to see how well it repulsed or demagnetized. At 12 volts it has no problem repelling a rotor magnet at fairly close gap, though I know repulsion is not the intention, all that is needed is a demagnetizing or nullifying of core flux caused by the rotor magnet.
Hi rusty, thanks for your opinion about Robert Adams. Ultimately money is not the cause of greed, etc., FEAR is the cause and its many symptoms.
All these technologies will be released to humanity, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And that 'when' is coming to town.
peace love light
Tyson

[RustyP]

I would have to agree with your comments there, Money or the lack of it is probably what helps drive the fear. Good call.

[RustyP]

Lead Acid, Absorbed Glass Mat etc are quite temperature sensitive so a change of a couple of degrees could show up as a small voltage variation on your meter.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Rusty, thanks for your kind reply. So Adams used some material on the rotor placed between the magnets. Could it be some kind of eddy current generated heat that increases when water is present or maybe an accelerated hysteresis generated heat or maybe a combination of all of these contributing. The mystery material possibly helped induce a super heating effect that didn't slow the rotor much. Your thoughts on this are appreciated.
Still making my coils.
peace love light
Tyson

[RustyP]

Yes you are very close with your assumptions. I dont think there was any extra drag involved and there was a massive amount of heat generated for free which is energy anyway you see it. By leaving this material out it ran cold and produced electrical energy to run itself and plenty to spare but with this modification he led me to believe he got several times more energy out of the same machine as heat energy or electrical with the process of converting the electrical charge in the water back to electricity directly. This project has been waiting to go for 10 years now and needs some-one to make it happen with the electrical knowledge and FE understanding and the energy, money and clout to make it happen.
Merry Christmas to all of you. Dont know when I will be back just finished work.

[toranarod]

Hi Guys
Very interesting discussions about the Adams thermal motor techniques.
I will do some research over the holidays into this. It’s got me very intrigued.

My Motor has been running now for 4 days on the same battery. No sine of things changing any time soon. I will make a video, it’s a bit difficult to put on video because its hard to show things over a period of time .
I am sure there are those who would like to see anyway.

Thank you for your support. If there is any thing I can do to help please ask.

All the best for the Holidays
ToranaRod

[SkyWatcher]

Hi rusty, hi toranarod, thanks for the information and merry christmas. This information makes for good reading.

As stator and rotor come into alignment, the field spread over the stator windings is at its greatest extent, hence the current induction is at its strongest, exactly at the 'in register,' position, when it is most needed, which is also where we close the timing circuit enabling current to flow. Therefore at the 'stuck,' point where the stator core and magnet are effectively temporarily as one, you will get a large current induced, that acts to offset the field the magnet has been inducing in the stator core, which is the basis for the mutual attraction of the rotor to the core. We are therefore left with a most fascinating electromagnetic paradox, whereby the magnet is fighting for control of the stator core simultaneously from two directions. It is both trying to extend its flux field into the stator core to create an attraction effect, but it is also trying using current induced, to make the stator core repel itself. Both actions on their own are fully predicted and explained by existing electromagnetic law, some of it 170 years old, yet what no-one in the mainstream has ever investigated, is what might happen when you perform both actions near simultaneously. The answer seems fairly simple to me. Space time is, in a manner, short circuited. The magnet has gained kinetic energy in being attracted to the stator core, yet when it arrives at the stator core and should get 'stuck,' its own field energy causes partial demagnetization (repulsion with delivered pulse) from the said stator core via the windings. It is therefore forced to keep a % of the kinetic energy it gained in being initially attracted to the stator core, in an apparent violation of the laws of conversation of energy.
Hence, we have taken advantage of a switched reluctance motor's mechanical yaw to register, to force energy out of the field of a permanent magnet, by using stator cores configured as generator windings. It has required less electrical energy to demagnetize the stator core, than the sum of the kinetic energy we gained on approach, because of the 'free precharge' provided by the pm field to the stator windings. Thus an electromagnetically asymmetrical operation has been performed upon the field of a permanent magnet, temporarily depleting the field strength of the magnet below that defined by the atomic structure of the magnet. Demagnetization is a fundamental over-unity concept!
It is this two way magnetic energy field extraction optimization the Adams motor delivers, that turns the permanent magnets into negative inductors, that time reverse all particles caught up within the negative flux field created on the pole face of the permanent magnets. The negative time flux field of the magnet is a direct response to the field depletion effect manifested, and is the mechanism whereby the magnet draws in energy to rebalance the voltage component of its field and restore normal strength, as defined by the atomic structure of the magnet. Since the magnets run cold, and since this energy draw takes place in a time reversed zone of negentropy, I hypothesize this mechanism to be a loss less and direct thermo electric conversion. Photons radiate energy from a high potential source into space under normal physics in a direct electric-thermal conversion (called I2R losses in conventional physics), when time reversed, they do just the opposite. They take thermal energy from space, and concentrate it on the magnets to replenish their field strength. The circuitry of the motor is of course caught up in the field replenishment routine of the magnet, hence cold current in device circuitry, as well as further reductions in current draw, in excess of the 50% reduction provided by the basic unit.
In terms of device optimization, cold current wires need to be small enough to offer maximum vacuum surface area contact, while large enough to allow electrons to flow. The exact equations that determine performance have not yet been derived, but Adams stators in series should have a total resistance approaching 10 ohms for best result. So if using 2 stators in series, that implies about 4-5 ohms each. Obviously, the photons absorb any of the heat the electrons emit in their passage through the wire and convert it directly back to potential, so conventional I2R losses area a complete non issue. If you use conventional equations in your stator construction process with the Adams motor, you will most likely fail. Because true cold current is fully time reversed, the electrons flow backwards recharging the source, hence the device is really a mechanical transductor, changing energy from one form to another. This reversal of current can give the appearance of polarity reversal in device circuitry. But this is an effect and not a cause, of course.

peace love light
Tyson

[elias]

My take on the Adams motor

Hi

It seems to me that Adams takes advantage of magnetic hysteresis of the iron core. There is an action and a reaction, the action being the approach of the magnet, and the reaction being magnetization of the core, but there is a lag and a delay between the action and reaction in the real world, a time delay of supposedly dt.

So, when the magnet approaches the core the core gets magnetized and it retains it s magnetism for a short amount of time after the magnet passes by. So at a certain speed, the magnetic lag becomes significant and it works as a driving force for the coil, when the Mosfet switches., this implies that we must take into consideration the magnetic lag of hysteresis of the core material.

It is so simple, If the reaction, or the Lenz law worked simultaneously by inducing a magnetic field in the core, the Adams motor might not have been possible, but it seems to me that the magnetic field is "stored" for a brief moment in the core and the induced voltage in the coil is used as a driving force for the motor after the magnet gets passed the core.

That may be why accurate "timing" is needed.

Elias

[toranarod]

Hi

It seems to me that Adams takes advantage of magnetic hysteresis of the iron core. There is an action and a reaction, the action being the approach of the magnet, and the reaction being magnetization of the core, but there is a lag and a delay between the action and reaction in the real world, a time delay of supposedly dt.

So, when the magnet approaches the core the core gets magnetized and it retains it s magnetism for a short amount of time after the magnet passes by. So at a certain speed, the magnetic lag becomes significant and it works as a driving force for the coil, when the Mosfet switches., this implies that we must take into consideration the magnetic lag of hysteresis of the core material.

It is so simple, If the reaction, or the Lenz law worked simultaneously by inducing a magnetic field in the core, the Adams motor might not have been possible, but it seems to me that the magnetic field is "stored" for a brief moment in the core and the induced voltage in the coil is used as a driving force for the motor after the magnet gets passed the core.

That may be why accurate "timing" is needed.

Elias

Thank you
That is one of the best explanations I have heard put forward.
Great description.

[elias]

Rodney,

I read your document (999kB). Thanks for sharing!
I wonder, what wire gauge do you use? I currently have #24 wire at hand, (0.5mm dia). would it be fine for this? How many turns? I think that these things are critical for a good construction and to make the effect happen. Would you recommend designing a higher voltage system? about 200-300 volts? or you think that the effect primarily constitutes batteries?

Elias