The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[Mark]

Hi Ren

I haven't used hall switching before what is the part number you are going to use and where can I get one? Are some triggered by north or south only magnets. Are some triggered by both?
Also wondering where I can order a 4.7volt Zener and 2.8 volt super bright Leds.

Thanks, Mark

[elias]

Hi Ren

I haven't used hall switching before what is the part number you are going to use and where can I get one? Are some triggered by north or south only magnets. Are some triggered by both?

Thanks, Mark

I use UGN3113U, one side is triggered by S and the other side is triggered by N.

[toranarod]

from Australia

Hi Rod,

good to see another aussie in here. Where are you located if I may ask?

Ive built a few window motors and monopoles in my time, Im interested to know if you ever built John Bedini and Ron Coles bipolalr circuit, as the 1/2 circuit version of this is very close to an adams motor design.

I am working on a large rotor at the moment that will use the 1/2 circuit with hall sensors as timing devices.

Good work



Ren

Hello. Great to see as you say another one of us from Aus building something trying to make a differences to the energy shortages, or the cost of it.

I am in Melbourne not far from the airport and you?


Regards Rod

[toranarod]

talking about Hall effect and electronic setups

I am using US 5781 device

Here is a photo of the data sheet you will find more information about it on line
I like this type because they are not sensitive to noise because they have Schmitt trigger out puts.



and it wired in like this.

I am happy to give any information on this as possible I will even give any body the software as well, or what ever just ask
I will help any body to build energy Machines.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, or you could use this circuit that uses a single separate trigger coil to switch multiple coils with one transistor or darlington. Though if you cant get a coil near the rotor magnets, then you'll have to make a separate timing rotor with magnets placed for desired duty cycle. It works really well though and cheap and simple and reliable. Here is the circuit.



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peace love light
Tyson

[toranarod]

The circuit presented on the parts list where the early versions.
This was a simple drive setup when starting out and testing for efficiency only.
I was told the by some too complicated. Please keep it simple.
The best approach was one step at a time. It seemed when they where ready for the next step they would ask.
But of course there are those like your self who have previous experience.
For the intent of keeping this as simple to understand as possible, I have used an electromechanical device, i.e. a DPDT (a double pole double throw mechanical relay) to demonstrate how the capacitor C2 is switched mechanically in and out of the battery charging circuit.
In normally closed position, the relay connects the capacitor to the drive coils L1, L2 and is allowed to charge through the 2 rectifying diodes, collecting the high voltage EMF off the collapsing magnetic field. The capacitor is allowed to charge to twice the battery voltage potential, i.e. 24 x 2 = 48 volts. At that time the processor determines the right moment when the circuit is no longer switching to return to activate the relay and switch the voltage stored by the capacitor back to the battery source, returning all energy back to the system.
Note: Resistive capacitive time constants need to be considered so the capacitor can be discharged to the correct potential of the battery. This duration time is also calculated by the micro processor.
It is also important to note that the micro processor counts how many times it has triggered a drive pulse and uses the amount of ignition pulses to determine how long to charge the capacitor before returning the charge back to the battery.
In the test shown here a pulse count of 250 was reached to bring the capacitor up to a 48 volt charge before it was discharged back to the batteries’ 24 volt potential. By using a counting sequence instead of time to calculate the charge potential of the capacitor we were able to maintain a 48 volt charge peak irrespective of the motor’s RPM.
Note for reference: A relay was used to conduct this experiment and provided a working prototype for a short period of time: however, the relay contacts eventually burnt out. Future switching will be done by a solid state circuitry which will be documented in future references of this research.


this is the first time i have shown the hole circuit in complete setup

What i wanted was the battery that drives the system to be receiving the charge. not to charge one and swap it over.

this acutely worked the battery increased it charge over the day



here is how it all was done

http://www.thehydrogenshop.com/Over_...0guide_4.1.pdf

[SkyWatcher]

Hi toranarod, thanks for sharing the information and the pdf. I posted that circuit over here in case someone wanted to give it a whirl. With your setup. are you saying your able to maintain the voltage level in the input battery and if so, how are you pulsing it back to the primary input battery. Is the computer programmed to pulse the capacitor back to the front end at any specific time or is it randomly based on whenever the counting is done. Reason I ask is because, what if the cap discharges while the coils are energized and I recall Bedini mentioning that charging a battery at the same time as discharging is not healthy for the battery. Thanks.
peace love light
Tyson

[toranarod]

Hi toranarod, thanks for sharing the information and the pdf. I posted that circuit over here in case someone wanted to give it a whirl. With your setup. are you saying your able to maintain the voltage level in the input battery and if so, how are you pulsing it back to the primary input battery. Is the computer programmed to pulse the capacitor back to the front end at any specific time or is it randomly based on whenever the counting is done. Reason I ask is because, what if the cap discharges while the coils are energized and I recall Bedini mentioning that charging a battery at the same time as discharging is not healthy for the battery. Thanks.
peace love light
Tyson

This is where the use of a micro processor takes this
The computer chip monitors all aspects of the motor function.
It only allows the discharging of the capacitor back to the battery during the time when the coils are not switching. And no over lap is allowed to occur.
The drive does not know the battery was disconnected for the motor.
I am designing a solid state version and will be replacing the relay.

[darkwizard]

The best circuit to build for control the motor/generator is the Bedini/Cole half bipolar for the all north pole motor.

The best motor/generator is that wood motor that John shows on dvd1 or dvd2 (i dont remember) i will build that, with big neo magnets, a 10 % of iron core (a bit of atraction) and 90% of air, hehe. The two poles of the coil are used, so no waste of energy there, plus it working on resonance, the speed of the motor is slower but the overall efficience increases.

[toranarod]

next generation

The over unity is a very dynamic affect and is constantly changing with load and other variables.
In a real time application such as home power generation you are going to need more than a 3055 transistor to keep the system balanced an producing the most efficient out put.
I have seen the system need many tuning variables as condition change.
Processors can measure time in micro seconds nothing is hit or miss and hope for the best it will be an exact science.
I have already started writing up and deigning system parameter. These motor will self start in under unity situation and the computer will then switch to over unity drive and then monitor a over unit percentage ratio and maintain the ration at a fixed rpm it will measure load and if It can not keep up bring in another generator bank. This is some of the ways theses units will function.
We can now use the latest electronics technologies such as nano watt processors that have fast computing power and draw less current than one 3055 Base emitter on current.
I plan to put generators like this in the hands of those who need it the most and move it out of the back yard shed. People want plug and play set and forget.
It will all be Open source I will disclose all designs to the public nothing will be patented
Every thing will be open source.
If theses OU devices are to run efficiently, reliably and maintenance free. and be excepted by the general population. It need to goto the next level.

[lanenal]

what do you think about a combination of the Adams Motor and the effect of the Wankel motor

First of all, this would be a good marriage if both are working in OU mode. Putting both together might be a good engineering challenge though.

[toranarod]

First of all, this would be a good marriage if both are working in OU mode. Putting both together might be a good engineering challenge though.

I built a lot of attempts at fixed magnet motors with no real successes.
But there where parts of them that produced results.
the v gate and Wankel motor where generally good examples.
showing you could get 349 degree of rotation.
So I propose something like this.

this is a crude drawing but you get the idea.

[lanenal]

I built a lot of attempts at fixed magnet motors with no real successes.
But there where parts of them that produced results.
the v gate and Wankel motor where generally good examples.
showing you could get 349 degree of rotation.

Nice drawing. Though it is intriguing to investigate the possibility of combining these two technologies, I would definitely first prove them individually first.

cheers, lanenal

[bugler]

Hi all,

I can't find the paper donated by toranarod to panacea website.

Where is it?

Thanks.

[gyula]

I built a lot of attempts at fixed magnet motors with no real successes.
But there where parts of them that produced results.
the v gate and Wankel motor where generally good examples.
showing you could get 349 degree of rotation.
So I propose something like this.

this is a crude drawing but you get the idea.

Hi,

Would like to ask the green disks represent soft iron?

IF yes, the direction of rotor rotation ought to be clockwise, no?

Do you expect the energy received from the generator coils help reduce input energy significantly?

Also, would like to learn your opinion on the induced voltage being present across the drive coils that surely have an opposite polarity to that of the input voltage needed for serving their electromagnet task? This inherently increases input power, no?

Thanks, Gyula