The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[caru]

We are OT, let's continue privately.

[toranarod]

Getting back on track
I have found a solid state device.
Removing the induced load has made a big difference. when the back emf is supplied back to the battery with out the induced load the system RPM increases.
All this gathered Data can be utilized.

the photo


Solid State Relay,SSR,0.15A,600Vac,Non-Zero Cross,Triac Output,PCB,DIP6,PR32MA11NTZF
Control Voltage 1.2 V
Isolation Voltage 5000Vac
Load Voltage 600Vac
Maximum Input Current 50 mA
Maximum Load Current 0.15A
Maximum Load Voltage 600Vac
Maximum Turn On Time 100μs
Output Device Triac
Package DIP6
RS Stock No. 667-5180Manufacturer SharpManufacturer's

[bugler]

toranarod I am reading about the Adam's motor.
I am reading about it in the practical guide of 'free-energy' devices of Patrick Kelly.

He says that there is a forum member called maimariate getting 33.78kw with an input of 27.6W. Sounds really dramatic. He doesn't say which is the forum.

If this is true this guy holds the key to change the world.

What are the results you are getting?

Thanks.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi bugler, I think that was a typo, it was meant to be 33.78 watts, not kilowatts. I'm almost ready to test my motor, though not sure how I'm going rig up all the tricks that toranarod is using.
peace love light
Tyson

[toranarod]

Hi folks, Hi bugler, I think that was a typo, it was meant to be 33.78 watts, not kilowatts. I'm almost ready to test my motor, though not sure how I'm going rig up all the tricks that toranarod is using.
peace love light
Tyson

I would always be willing to help if you decide to go that way.
For all my tricks. LOL The Bottom line is keep the pulse as short as possible and Work on the timing adjust the timing by measuring current with a meter.
This is your best measuring system.
Only trying to help.

good luck looking forward to your report

cheers Rod

[bugler]

it was meant to be 33.78 watts, not kilowatts.

S*it. pardon my french.

What is the best COP you know of an Adam's motor? I mean based in big watts number not 33.78 watts.

[toranarod]

How's it all going.
I haven't been here for while
Rod

[toranarod]

wire gauge

The wire gauge is 18 AWG at 5.6 mH
A hi voltage version will be one of my next projects. it a good idea.
I have some new results I want to post. be very busy with all this stuff
cheers

[SkyWatcher]

Hi toranarod, I've been testing some other projects and will be making some more tests now with the motor, though ive found that my neo magnet rotor is just too strong for the core/coils i made. So i've converted the motor back to air-coil core and it will be more along the lines of the Ossie Callanan 'ossie motor'.
Though if you notice, in his motor, he is doing almost the same thing you are.

He is switching off both circuit legs of coil using reed switches instead of transistors. So since I have a bunch of reed switches laying around, i'll try that for starters.
Also, I would love to hear about the new results your speaking of, thanks.
peace love light
Tyson
edit: here is a pic of the circuit



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[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I ran a couple tests with the air-core motor.
It is wired like JLN's circuit i posted, except i used only one resistor of 10 ohms.
Using a 12 volt gel cell battery, it works well and avoids the shorting of the drive coils through the diode off the collector and so does not slow the motor at all.
It also seems to be keeping the battery voltage fairly steady, although it does drop very slowly.
Now if i remove one of the reed switches at high side of coil it of course slows down to a crawl. If i then run it in the typical manner with the reed switch replacing the transistor in the typical bedini or adams motor setup and charge a 6 volt gel battery, it slows a little bit compared to feeding back to source input, though then the input battery drops in voltage much faster.
So this does seem to work and using a pnp on high side with npn on low side would work just as well im sure as shown in toranarod's circuits.
And it does seem to be recharging the source to some degree, maybe with some more tweaking it could sustain itself.
peace love light
Tyson

[gyula]

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So this does seem to work and using a pnp on high side with npn on low side would work just as well im sure as shown in toranarod's circuits.
And it does seem to be recharging the source to some degree, maybe with some more tweaking it could sustain itself.
peace love light
Tyson

Hi Tyson,

You surely know but would like to notice the voltage drop across a reed switch is much much less than across a switching pnp or npn transistor with the lowest saturation voltage available (40-50mV for the best types that are affordable vs reed's 0.1-0.2mV loss).
So perhaps the tendency to substitute reed switches (if you wish to get rid of reed switches) could go towards using power MOSFET switches that already have 10 milliOhm or less ON resistance when they conduct. Perhaps the control of these MOSFETs could be solved from the battery or from the induced voltages by using micropower DC/DC upconverter IF the setup seems "promising" at all... Rod (toranarod) has shown good MOSFET switching circuits in this thread, with P and N channel MOSFETs.

I ask why you still kept the 10 Ohm in series? just for saving the reeds from burning in? IF yes, perhaps the MOSFET switches could be justified and your setup could utilize even more captured energy, I wonder, how much more?

Suppose you would use supercaps instead of the batteries, then you could see in much less time how efficient the setup is, by watching the voltage level across the supercaps. I mean using two equal 2.5V supercaps in series that have low inner resistance (ESR), charged up both to 2.4V in advance then run the setup from their series resultant of 4.8V. Of course, using supercaps to replace your 12V gelcell is costly, I did not mean that...

What is the DC resistance of your coils and how much voltage is induced in them when the rotor is at its normal RPM?

Thanks, Gyula

[SkyWatcher]

Hi gyula, thanks for your replies. For now, i think I'll be testing the reed switches some more, though I normally operate the motor with a reed switch switching the base of a transistor which works very well and have used hall switches also.
Yes i used the resistor in hopes of not welding my reeds.
This motor is the garry stanley motor i built from the other thread i made and each coil is 24 gauge at 2.5 ohms, 6 coils in center stator plate.
In the pure reed switch tests, i wired them in series. I'd have to hook a full wave bridge up while running to see dc or check ac with meter.
Yes i thought about trying caps, though the largest value ones i have are car audio caps, 1 at 1 farad and 2 at 1.5 farad. I also have a couple 450 volt-2400microfarad caps.
Maybe for starters i will hook one of the 1.5 farads in parallel with the 12 volt drive battery and see if it improves the charging, i haven't even checked the current draw yet, however reliable that is.
peace love light
Tyson

[charlieb000]

the Data presented in the PDF is old and more configurations have been tried with better results. some times worse. other things like running on 60 to 70 volt also uncovered interesting things about the magnets. Yes you are on the mark good observation.

Every thing coming from the generator coils is total free energy.
Cannot stress how excited I am about the results I am designing and planning a 240 volt generator for the home for this research.
I have some mew designs I will show you as soon as I have drafted the plans.

(posts 14,16)

can you elaborate on the interesting things?

how much extra power?

and reading your pdf, it says that its got to vibrate, whats this caused from? pushing the rotor along with the reverse pulse?

you may even be able to use that so-called coil shorting technique that they are using in the rotorverter to boost it along (as seen in the kelley books) a destination capacitor is needed after the load for this tesla-switch concept to work.

Cb

[toranarod]

Hi
Been away for a while with HHO work
I have wanted to get back to the OU device

[ashtweth]

Rod your a foundation of open source, you will never die my friend, good to see you back thanks for the update...


Ash