Parallel Self Charging

[ibpointless2]

I missed that being the important point you were making. That would be significant but I still would have a couple concerns. I think you need a control set to run against since many batteries and especially lead acid batteries will have some self recovery over a period of time. If you start with fresh batteries at full voltage and you see this phenomenon then I'll believe you have something significant. Or if you have 2 batteries that were new and at the same voltage and both put under the same load until they are down a couple volts. Then put one in your circuit and leave the other one to just sit. After a period of time compare the voltages. Not trying to discourage as I think it's great you are an astute observer of such phenomenon but there needs to be something to compare against in this case to eliminate the possibility that it is no more than battery self recovery. Best of luck with the experiments.

I do thank you for the input. I prefer not to use batteries but capacitors instead. I take two capacitors, one bigger and has a higher voltage than the other and then hook them up. Before hooking them up I like to let them sit not hook up to anything for at least 12 hours. Once they get a good standing voltage in them I hook the them up.

I’ve had tried 12 volt batteries before after i’ll let them sit for 3 days and then hooked them up. The batteries work fine at times but I find that capacitors don’t lie as much.

I know it can be hard to test this idea and really hard for people to believe it. Its really simple for people to do, and once they make it then they can come up with their own ideas of why it happens. The only way people will believe it is when they do it themselves. I’m sure this effect should not happen, common self charging capacitors sounds impossible, or at least the way i’m making them self charge.

[elias]

Attaching the bigger one with more voltage to the little one with less voltage will cause the big one to give up power so that the little one can gain power. So in the end they should loose power but they gain it instead, it goes above the big ones original voltage and that should not happen. According to what we know the little one can't charge the big one because it has less power in it and the big one can't go above its original voltage because it had to give some up so that the big one and little one could equal out, but in the real world they seem to self charge off each other well above the original standing voltage on the big one.

So in the end there should be a loss, due to the internal loss of the capacitor and the wires that join them. But in the end they gain voltage.

Why do all of the wise teachers teach that, unity is far more superior in power than individuality? Some forces joined together at the same direction has more power than the sum of many scattered forces.

[conradphd]

Why do all of the wise teachers teach that, unity is far more superior in power than individuality? Some forces joined together at the same direction has more power than the sum of many scattered forces.

@elias
Totally wrong!
Let us consider 1000 solders marching against 1,000 solders.
The two groups are equal, 1K=1k.
The opposition lines up had in hand, 1,000 strong line with intimidation to behold.

The other group lines up 250/250/250/250, in other words they are 4 deep and they move forward and over the single line of opposition.

Here indeed unity has over come individuality, where we have a one to one line as opposed to a four deep penetration.

Power is not only in the individual, it must exist in the group as well and the group will always overcome the individual.

[ibpointless2]

I thought i would revisit this experiment using different capacitors. My big capacitor had 238.6mV and my little capacitor had 24mV in it. I hook both capacitors up, positive to positive and negative to negative. Now both Capacitors are reading 280.8mV, Thats a 42.2mV increase from the original standing voltage of the big capacitor. I have more voltage then what i started out with.

I'm surprised that people show little interest in this simple effect, I'm getting more than what i started with. It starts off what people would expect to happen, the big capacitor charges the little capacitor and the big capacitor goes down as the little capacitor goes up until they both equal. Then the magic happens, both go up above the original standing voltage of the big capacitor. This effect I believe has to do with the capacitor actually being free energy batteries, but are bread to be capacitor first and batteries last, thus the reason for the slow but noticeable self charging.

[NickZ]

All:
I think that what is going on with these circuits is that they really are manufacturing electric power out of thin air. The capacitors are sucking in Aether from the surrounding space, at a certain rate, depending on many factors. The Caps are functioning as the heart of this aether pump system and the leaky diodes, are like the one way valves. You can change everything else but not the caps, they are the heart of it, without them it it probably won't work.
I also feel that some of the tests that we have been doing are not really hitting the nail on the head. As it is really the amazing ability of the device to maintain the relatively steady state of charge, that counts, not as a battery charger, but more like permanent maintainer and holder of that charge. Words... well I tried...

I see as important to balance any Captret-Jouleringer - Jt - type device so that it is not drawing off Too Much energy from the caps or battery system. So that the caps can keep up with the output, Without the battery, or the caps, dropping in voltage. Too much draw off of the cap-batteries, and there goes the charge, down, down, well you know, and once it's gone, it ain't comin back. At least not to where is started from.
So, the device may not really be charging itself much higher than its starting voltage (other than a slight surface charge on top), but, it can and does provide for output power without discharging its battery,or caps.
It's like drinking from a glass, that never empties. My two cents...