massave motor

[ssjjaaw]

Im new to the fourm and hope i can get help with this motor. The motor started out to use flynn flux path but even with the size of laminas saturation is to great.

[toranarod]

Im new to the fourm and hope i can get help with this motor. The motor started out to use flynn flux path but even with the size of laminas saturation is to great.

That is a fantastic construction
as I like to say the energy crises will be solved by the individual person not the corporations

great job LOve it

[sciencisto]

PPMM co-operation

ssjjaaw, please post more, electronic circuit you are using to power the motor and drawing of how it operates.
I am interested. Look in this forum for my posts about Parallel Path Magnet Motor. I hope we can co-operate.

[Armagdn03]

Im new to the fourm and hope i can get help with this motor. The motor started out to use flynn flux path but even with the size of laminas saturation is to great.

Post operation, Schematics, how you see it working, problems you encountered and solved, details details details,


It is much too difficult to "help" when we have no knowledge of operation.

[Jbignes5]

The one problem I see so far...

In a parallel path motor the back of the magnets must have a clear path to connect the flux. In your case the only way to do that would be the shaft. The problem is that the magnets are screwing that up. Instead of the flux joining by the shaft the mags are pulling the flux apart. For instance you have n,s,n on the shaft. As the flux goes it will separate right at the magnet and go two ways to either side and not complete the path from one end of the flux bar to the other. Remove the magnets and just put laminations there and put the magnets in between your laminations on the outside of your machine.

This way you can shut off the magnets flux simply by interrupting the flow with your coils. The source of flux (magnet) should be external to the rotor, with the rotor being just a connection to the other group of laminations on the rotor. You need to remove the magnets all together from the rotor and put them externally to the rotor. This means changing the laminated bars to include the magnets as the source of flux then make the rotor a flux path and not source.

[Jetijs]

I agree with Armagdn03 here, we need more info on how the motor is supposed to run to be able to help you getting it to finish
Awesome build BTW

[ssjjaaw]

massave motor

In a parallel path motor the back of the magnets must have a clear path to connect the flux. In your case the only way to do that would be the shaft. The problem is that the magnets are screwing that up. Instead of the flux joining by the shaft the mags are pulling the flux apart. For instance you have n,s,n on the shaft. As the flux goes it will separate right at the magnet and go two ways to either side and not complete the path from one end of the flux bar to the other. Remove the magnets and just put laminations there and put the magnets in between your laminations on the outside of your machine.

This way you can shut off the magnets flux simply by interrupting the flow with your coils. The source of flux (magnet) should be external to the rotor, with the rotor being just a connection to the other group of laminations on the rotor. You need to remove the magnets all together from the rotor and put them externally to the rotor. This means changing the laminated bars to include the magnets as the source of flux then make the rotor a flux path and not source.

Thanks for the input. I understand the magnets, I just finished switching the magnets. One side is N other S. In flynns pat. he showed at least three diffrent motors/rotors with magnets+parallel path . I have not seen anyone try replicating those. I am. If you look at my motor where the laminas come through the aluminum side plates, i had 3"x1" neos with another set of laminas joining each togather, saturation to great, but might be the way the magnets were on rotor? Any way I will try again!

[ssjjaaw]

timing for massave motor

this is the timing for the motor. need help with timing circuit. any suggestions!

Thanks for the input. I understand the magnets, I just finished switching the magnets. One side is N other S. In flynns pat. he showed at least three diffrent motors/rotors with magnets+parallel path . I have not seen anyone try replicating those. I am. If you look at my motor where the laminas come through the aluminum side plates, i had 3"x1" neos with another set of laminas joining each togather, saturation to great, but might be the way the magnets were on rotor? Any way I will try again!

[ssjjaaw]

this is the timing for the motor. need help with timing circuit. any suggestions! Thanks for the input. I understand the magnets, I just finished switching the magnets. One side is N other S. In flynns pat. he showed at least three diffrent motors/rotors with magnets+parallel path . I have not seen anyone try replicating those. I am. If you look at my motor where the laminas come through the aluminum side plates, i had 3"x1" neos with another set of laminas joining each togather, saturation to great, but might be the way the magnets were on rotor? Any way I will try again!

[ewizard]

I assume you are familar with the drag effect aluminum has on magnets? Looks like you would know this from the extent of your build but I just mention it as it struck me as odd to have aluminum end plates. I only recently discovered this effect when dropping a magnet through an aluminum pipe. Very odd looking how it floats down instead of dropping (same with copper pipe). I'm sure Jetijs who is an excellent motor builder and craftsman can help you as well as others here if they have some more details. Best of luck with the project.

[FRC]

I assume you are familar with the drag effect aluminum has on magnets? Looks like you would know this from the extent of your build but I just mention it as it struck me as odd to have aluminum end plates. I only recently discovered this effect when dropping a magnet through an aluminum pipe. Very odd looking how it floats down instead of dropping (same with copper pipe). I'm sure Jetijs who is an excellent motor builder and craftsman can help you as well as others here if they have some more details. Best of luck with the project.

Rick Frederich mentions this aluminum effect on magnets in the SSG video. Although, it is okay to use an aluminum bike wheel, the frame , holding it, should not be aluminum. He also demonstrates the drag effect by passing a magnet over apiece of aluminum.

FRC