How to turn plastic waste into diesel fuel cheaply

[Asad Farooqui]

Pour point

Hi Asad,
I have replicated your mix. This mixture really works well, lemon coloured, which only darkens a little after a few weeks.
My next experiment is to add some PE into the mix.

Hello Imakebiodiesel ;
Iam glad to know that U got brilliant results, following my receip.
Did U got this lemon color of your diesel range fuel also ?
Did U got your fuel in the first cracking of the mixture OR U have to place the first distillate back in the reactor & reheat again to separate Gasoline,kerosene,diesel ???

Adding PE in the feedstock-mix is a good idea , BUT did U know that the POUR POINT will drop & because of it waxing will occur.

IF U like I can e-mail U a research report which is more than 25 pages long & is not possible to paste with this message .
Send ur e-mail to me . Mine is = ahl_asadfarooqui@yahoo.com
contact number = 0092-334-3819549

[Francisco Mora]

liqui moly and PE parafine

It is liqui moly `speed diesel`. I was assured from their sales rep this additive should solve my problem. So I`m testing it now.
BTW, jetijs, I remember making the fuel some time ago using only PE but I still had problem with sludge and darkening, apart from the waxes. Are you using anything else in your reactor mixed with PE?

hello all, how good we move forward in this forum
question for Kaguya, what proportion of liqui moly used per liter of diesel? and Jetijs, how many times to the reactor paraffin, to remove it and only that of diesel by
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[keith20mm]

Hi all.
I finally got my setup to run. Experimented with HDPE for two days. It works quite nicely. ...

More experiments to come
Thanks,
Jetijs

Would it be reasonable to add a heat band around the catalyst cannister to raise the catalyst temperature?

This would further break the vapor (apparently liquid, also, as the alumina block appear to be saturated), while it is already heated?

[ashtweth]

We made calculations, it turns out that our device, as crude as it is with much room for improvement, can produce diesel fuel at a cost of 17 US cents a liter, that is when only plastic and electricity is considered. The next machine will probably use a liquid fuel burner to heat the reactor, this could lower the costs even more as it would then run on a small percentage of the produced fuel and also the produced gas would then be used more practically - burned along with the fuel to heat the reactor. Even now, if we would get the electricity from a diesel generator that runs on the produced fuel, it would consume about 20% of the produced fuel, but those generators are never efficient and much of the potential power is lost, so heating the reactor using a burner should be even more efficient. Japan produces such units that run themselves using the produced fuel, their machines use 7-10% of the yield. But they cost more than 100 000$ for a unit the size we have. We also calculated all the materials and work involved to make this device and it comes around 1200$, but it is scalable from table top units up to industrial size units that produce several tons of fuel daily.

Here is a video I made and uploaded on a fake youtube account:
YouTube - Easy way to make your own diesel from plastic waste

guys cant we use a SOLAR parabolic dish for a heat source or am i way off?

[imakebiodiesel]

Thanks Asad. I processed the Wmo/pp mixture twice and collected the diesel?kerosine fraction in a simple condenser, the gasoiline fraction floated to the surface of the bubbler. This is not a very satisfactory arrangement but will do for the moment.
The gasoline was very clear and yellow green ( Im using copper pipe which may be causing the greeness, the larger outfit will be steel.
The diesel fraction was an orange colour which darkened a bit over a week.
I intend to process the pe sample a second time as well and see how it ages.

I have been offered help from an academic friend who can analyze fuel using a mass spectrometer but I want to wait untill I have a very good sample before I make use of that.

I would be very interested to read that article, my email is imakebiodiesel@o2.ie

[kaguar]

Francisco, you can check the dosage on their web site. I used it as they recommended 1:400.

[keith20mm]

guys cant we use a SOLAR parabolic dish for a heat source or am i way off?

You could, but you'd have to maintain the max temperature certainly less than 1050C, and preferably, say, 400C or less, and for maybe a couple of hours.

If you could keep the focus on the boiling/evaporating vessel, at the desired range, then there's input heat power saved, and, sure, it would work.

[wikisi]

Has anyone tried Perlite as catalyst?
Apparently you can crack WMO mixed with 10% perlite. See Multi-Science Publishing - Journal Article

[imakebiodiesel]

The article looks very interesting, do you have a copy of the full text? I hate shelling out 18gbp for 9 pages. 10% by mass is a lot of perlite. Perlite is the same sort of density as polystyrene beads. So if a litre of oil weighs 900gms you would need 90 gms of perlite. I have perlite in my workshop and I have just weighed out 90 gms, its volume is half a litre. So by volume the mixtuire would be 2 parts oil to one part perlite, thats a lot of perlite. i wonder how wood ash fared in the tests?

[ABO]

Hi, does anybody know where specifications for a large machine can be found? I'm interested in building something that can accept complete tires. I have a used 7500 gal fuel tank, could that be used for the reactor?

I've found lots of Chinese adds but nothing specific as to the construction of their units. Also the prices are beyond my check book.

[diesel]

Hi, does anybody know where specifications for a large machine can be found? I'm interested in building something that can accept complete tires. I have a used 7500 gal fuel tank, could that be used for the reactor?

I've found lots of Chinese adds but nothing specific as to the construction of their units. Also the prices are beyond my check book.

Hi AOB. I have been searching too, proving difficult so far. The only company I came accross so far are tyretooil, I would not thrust them by the emails I revieved back form them. If I do come accross something I will post it here.

[extraloud]

turkey cooker

hello all - everyone here is so helpful and willing to help others - i am glad to have found this place. i am planning on making a ~3 gallon reactor.

there are many turkey cookers in US - most are just a pot on a burner. I found this type. Char-Broil | The Big Easy® they are available used for less than $50 US. I figure it will save cost using something already built. I plan on replacing the stainless steel insert can with a thicker-wall reactor (like 5 gal propane tank etc)

This type has a burner ring around the bottom where the hot gases flow in a double wall. I am thinking it will work with added insulation.

What are the thoughts on using this ?

[Jetijs]

Hi all.
I got some PET pellets and put them through my unit today to see why no one uses it and now I certainly can see why. First of all your output liquid will be very dark and at least 4/5 of it will be black water. A bit brighter fuel floats on top of it, but still very dark, only with a very bright light you can see somewhat through the fuel and see the proportions of fuel/water. It stinks very bad, almost as bad as when rubber is used in the pyrolysis process. It stinks all over the place and the smell may be very toxic, so never use PET. And the worst part is that it makes all your refluctors, reactors and condensers dirty and black. Very much cleaning is needed to get rid of that stuff. Also it leaves very much dry stuff behing, almost 20% of the PET volume and this stuff is hard like asfalt and is very hard to remove. So I learned my lesson - DON'T USE PET!!!!!
Thanks,
Jetijs

[CRMoore]

Wonder if it would work at different temperature?

[CRMoore]

Turkey pot is my type of engineering-eagerly await your report!