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  • Originally posted by lowriderzzz View Post

    Do you have and are you willing to post/send some picture regarding the mounting of the Thermocouple Temperature Sensor ?

    What device you use to actually see the indicated temperature ?
    this post for one idea

    this would be fine for you
    http://diydiesel.blogspot.co.nz/

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    • Nice thank you.

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      • Originally posted by lowriderzzz View Post
        I've just made my reflux column with removable cap for my experimental 8 litters batch unit, but I'm thinking the length of the whole column is too large.

        How do you think ?

        Its currently 117 cm with the cap and only the column is 1 meter. And also 5,6 cm in diameter.

        The refluxing zone needs to only be about 1/4 to 1/3 the volume of the retort, and it should be packed, insulated, and heated to the same temperature of the retort; or otherwise your bottom ends will boil for ever refluxing off your reflux and back into your boiler.
        I have been running various blends of waste oils and unleaded gasoline in a 1983 Chevy G-20 van with a 6.2L diesel V-8 engine, with a Stanadyne Rotary DB2 IP since Feb, 2007. I have started the engine with no difficulty and no block heater on an 80/20 (WVO/gas) blend down to 0F (-18c). I have found that by blending as little as 15% gasoline in the summer, and as much as 50% in the winter, my engine starts and runs as if it was running on diesel fuel.

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        • Originally posted by Beyond Biodiesel View Post
          The refluxing zone needs to only be about 1/4 to 1/3 the volume of the retort, and it should be packed, insulated, and heated to the same temperature of the retort; or otherwise your bottom ends will boil for ever refluxing off your reflux and back into your boiler.
          Thanks I have that in consideration. I've already cut it in half and I plan to insulate it. If i see it is still cold I will have to electrically heat it too.

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          • How about a comprehensive easy to follow ebook on the subject ?

            Hi folks. I was wondering will it be useful if an ebook is made based on the posts in this thread. One with content pages, precise instructions, required equipment etc. ? I see many questions get repeated over and over again by new members (my self including).

            This will primarily benefit the non experienced. So what you think ?


            Second part of the question will be to those of you with marketing and business sense. Do you think the need to have this info in order and by step by step is so deep so anyone would pay for buying such an ebook ? Of course if its made professional and with proper advertising ?

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            • lowriderzzz, an ebook sounds like a good idea to me. It might just reduce the number of repeats we have to do.
              I have been running various blends of waste oils and unleaded gasoline in a 1983 Chevy G-20 van with a 6.2L diesel V-8 engine, with a Stanadyne Rotary DB2 IP since Feb, 2007. I have started the engine with no difficulty and no block heater on an 80/20 (WVO/gas) blend down to 0F (-18c). I have found that by blending as little as 15% gasoline in the summer, and as much as 50% in the winter, my engine starts and runs as if it was running on diesel fuel.

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              • Yes. I already started collecting the informative posts from the most experienced folks. I started with imbd's posts and I will scan through yours too if you don't mind use them.

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                • A very good day to you all....
                  Let me introduce myself I am Kobus van den Berg.
                  From South Africa.
                  I have jumped ahead into the future to see where it is now at.
                  You see I am actually from the past as I am now only at thread nr 1087
                  And more than 2 years behind you on this thread.
                  I will catch up soon.
                  BTW a e book with the important threads would be fantastic.

                  Ok bye for now got to go back to the past.

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                  • Originally posted by Excalibur View Post
                    Kaowool is good to 1200'c or so.
                    Thanks Excalibur !
                    i got kaowool,and now it withstands the temparature!

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                    • rough content for ebook

                      here is a pretty rough content for the ebook.


                      The set up
                      - Equipment required
                      - Retort
                      - Catalyst column
                      - Reflux column
                      - Condensers
                      - Bubbler
                      - Connecting pipes
                      - Measurement equipment
                      - Burners

                      Experiments
                      - Different temperatures
                      - Trying with different sorts of feedstock
                      - Different catalyst


                      The feedstock
                      - Plastic types
                      - The science behind the cracking process
                      The catalyst
                      - High active ones
                      - Low active ones

                      Test your results
                      - Viscosity test
                      - Octane test
                      - Water content
                      - Weight test



                      Any comments regarding adding other chapters and the order of those ones would be appreciated.
                      Last edited by lowriderzzz; 09-16-2013, 04:00 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by lowriderzzz View Post
                        Yes. I already started collecting the informative posts from the most experienced folks. I started with imbd's posts and I will scan through yours too if you don't mind use them.
                        Whatever I have posted here is public domain, so feel free to use it.

                        I like your chapter headings. Go for it.
                        I have been running various blends of waste oils and unleaded gasoline in a 1983 Chevy G-20 van with a 6.2L diesel V-8 engine, with a Stanadyne Rotary DB2 IP since Feb, 2007. I have started the engine with no difficulty and no block heater on an 80/20 (WVO/gas) blend down to 0F (-18c). I have found that by blending as little as 15% gasoline in the summer, and as much as 50% in the winter, my engine starts and runs as if it was running on diesel fuel.

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                        • Me presento

                          llevo un año estudiando todo lo que sale sobre pirólisis por internet. En España se ha empezado en agosto a producir combustible a partir de plásticos por varias empresas en unión.
                          llevo 3 meses apareciéndome de plástico triturado que yo mismo lo hago con un molino y mientras tanto estoy construyendo mi reactor pirolítico y estudiando sobre posibles catalizadores, aún no he escrito nada en el foro porque investigo y carezco de experiencia.
                          Mi afición a los combustibles alternativos comenzó usando aceite vegetal usado mezclado con diesel en mi coche y llevo casi dos años pero sin hacer biodiesel, y después conocí este foro y me entusiasmé comenzando a recolectar plástico para cuando tuviese todo el conocimiento y los medios.: D

                          Saludos a todos los que forman esta gran familia del foro. Saludos desdee España.

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                          • took a year studying everything that goes on pyrolysis internet. Spain has begun in August to produce fuel from plastics by several companies together.
                            took three months of shredded plastic apareciéndome I do it myself with a mill and meanwhile I'm building my pyrolytic reactor and studying about possible catalysts, I have not written anything in the forum because I lack investigate and experience.
                            My hobby began using alternative fuels used vegetable oil mixed with diesel in my car and took almost two years but without making biodiesel, and then I met this forum and I was excited to collect plastic beginning when he had all the knowledge and means.: D

                            Greetings to all who make this great family of the forum. Greetings desdee Spain.
                            Welcome, ladanivaca, my Spanish is not great, and maybe others here are not so good with it, so I translated it for you with the Google translator. Good luck with your process, and do share with us your results.

                            Since you started out as a blender, I too am a blender, but I found blending gasoline at 20% with WVO at 80% worked best on my engine, and is cheaper than 50% diesel blends.

                            Those who make their fuel through pyrolysis essentially will be blending their fractions to make fuel, much as we blenders do.

                            Google Translation:
                            Bienvenido, ladanivaca, mi español no es muy grande, y tal vez otras personas aquí no son tan buenos con ella, así que traduje para usted con el traductor de Google. Buena suerte con su proceso y hacerlo compartir con nosotros sus resultados.

                            Desde que comenzó como una licuadora, yo también soy una licuadora, pero encontré la mezcla de gasolina con un 20% de aceite usado en el 80% funcionaba mejor en mi motor, y es más barato que el 50% de mezcla de diesel.

                            Los que hacen su combustible a través de pirólisis esencialmente se fusionando sus fracciones para producir combustible, todo lo que hacen los mezcladores.
                            I have been running various blends of waste oils and unleaded gasoline in a 1983 Chevy G-20 van with a 6.2L diesel V-8 engine, with a Stanadyne Rotary DB2 IP since Feb, 2007. I have started the engine with no difficulty and no block heater on an 80/20 (WVO/gas) blend down to 0F (-18c). I have found that by blending as little as 15% gasoline in the summer, and as much as 50% in the winter, my engine starts and runs as if it was running on diesel fuel.

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                            • hello friends

                              what I do is a mixture of frying vegetable oil to 30% diesel and 15c.c of acetone in my golf MK · 3 car, I are going great.
                              I have a mill for plastic 10HP and 380 volts and I've crushed 300Kilos also put pictures of my home distillation unit which I also will pay for used motor oil.
                              Greetings.

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                              • ladanivaca, you might find that gasoline blending works better than diesel fuel blending. You will use less gasoline than diesel fuel to thin out your waste oils.

                                Post your photos of your plastic pyrolysis system here, because I am sure we all would like to see your system.
                                I have been running various blends of waste oils and unleaded gasoline in a 1983 Chevy G-20 van with a 6.2L diesel V-8 engine, with a Stanadyne Rotary DB2 IP since Feb, 2007. I have started the engine with no difficulty and no block heater on an 80/20 (WVO/gas) blend down to 0F (-18c). I have found that by blending as little as 15% gasoline in the summer, and as much as 50% in the winter, my engine starts and runs as if it was running on diesel fuel.

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