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  • OK, thank you very much for the advice Excalibur, that will do

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    • The third is the charm
      Last edited by alejandroramallo; 04-12-2015, 03:20 AM.

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      • Originally posted by alejandroramallo View Post
        The third is the charm
        That is an excellent sample. What was the Plastic type you used?

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        • Nice color. Excellent.
          Take careful note, does the sample darken with age? Does it leave a tide mark in the bottle? No doubt you'll have read previous forum posts of this phenomena.
          http://diydiesel.blogspot.co.nz/

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          • Originally posted by wheels View Post
            That is an excellent sample. What was the Plastic type you used?
            Thanks Wheels. Use 3 types of plastics. LDPE, HDPE, and PP. All recycled from the trash.

            Originally posted by Excalibur View Post
            Nice color. Excellent.
            Take careful note, does the sample darken with age? Does it leave a tide mark in the bottle? No doubt you'll have read previous forum posts of this phenomena.
            Thanks Excalibur. 6 months ago that I have the samples, and fortunately they maintain their color. And it leaves no marks on the bottle. I've been reading the Forum, and thanks in part to all of you, I've been able to get this small result. Anyway, I'm not very advanced in the process, and I keep experimenting.
            P.S.: the marks on the bottle would be waxes?

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            • Originally posted by alejandroramallo View Post
              Anyway, I'm not very advanced in the process, and I keep experimenting.
              Not very advanced?? I suspect you have left a lot of very advanced people scratching their heads as to how you accomplished that sample. Well done.
              Did you filter the liquid?
              How much liquid did you get from how much feedstock?
              Are you using just one condensing Pot, or 2 or 3?

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              • Originally posted by alejandroramallo View Post
                Thanks Excalibur. 6 months ago that I have the samples, and fortunately they maintain their color. And it leaves no marks on the bottle. I've been reading the Forum, and thanks in part to all of you, I've been able to get this small result. Anyway, I'm not very advanced in the process, and I keep experimenting.
                P.S.: the marks on the bottle would be waxes?
                I believe the marks or discoloration would be gum from oxidation. I read where it was a problem when cracking gasoline first became popular about a hundred years ago.
                Correct refining techniques and antioxidants prolong the life of modern gasoline but even so will still oxidize given enough time.
                http://diydiesel.blogspot.co.nz/

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                • Originally posted by alejandroramallo View Post
                  The third is the charm
                  Champion effort!
                  Do the specs identify it as a diesel fraction?

                  Oh, I remember now, you used it in the line trimmer, so it would have been the naptha fraction.
                  Last edited by Col; 04-14-2015, 03:01 AM.

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                  • Very good explanation Excalibur, you know much. It is always a pleasure to read what you write.

                    Originally posted by wheels View Post
                    Did you filter the liquid?
                    How much liquid did you get from how much feedstock?
                    Are you using just one condensing Pot, or 2 or 3?
                    Hi, Wheels. No, it is not necessary to filter the liquid. Performance I get until now, depends on the type of plastic and other aggregates (pigments, etc) that contains. Varies between 35% and 73% in weight of liquid. In volume, I get more or less 1 litre for every kilogram of plastic, such as maximum. Only use 1 condenser

                    Originally posted by Col View Post
                    Oh, I remember now, you used it in the line trimmer, so it would have been the naptha fraction.
                    Exactly Col, you have reason.

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                    • Originally posted by alejandroramallo View Post
                      Hi, Wheels. No, it is not necessary to filter the liquid. Performance I get until now, depends on the type of plastic and other aggregates (pigments, etc) that contains. Varies between 35% and 73% in weight of liquid. In volume, I get more or less 1 litre for every kilogram of plastic, such as maximum. Only use 1 condenser.
                      Are you using a Lab set up? I had presumed you had a backyard u it. But the sample and the numbers you have expressed certain things with makes me wonder now if this is a small Lab type set up.

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                      • Originally posted by wheels View Post
                        Are you using a Lab set up? I had presumed you had a backyard u it. But the sample and the numbers you have expressed certain things with makes me wonder now if this is a small Lab type set up.
                        For those results, just need a digital weighing scale, a graduated cylinder, some test tubes, pipette. No more than that. I don't have a lab, it's a home experiment. Only I have small knowledge in chemistry. I think that, as the majority in this forum, we replace the elements that we lack, with ingenuity, and a lot of effort.

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                        • Originally posted by alejandroramallo View Post
                          For those results, just need a digital weighing scale, a graduated cylinder, some test tubes, pipette. No more than that. I don't have a lab, it's a home experiment. Only I have small knowledge in chemistry. I think that, as the majority in this forum, we replace the elements that we lack, with ingenuity, and a lot of effort.
                          Arrr, now it all makes sense. What you have is what I was meaning by "Lab". It dose not have to be a proper laboratory. It's just that making a Fuel on a small scale like you have means you have far greater control and much easier to get a great result like you have. Your approach is very good. Learn as much as you can with this equipment. There is nothing better than being able to see what is going on as you experiment and learn. Then taking the next step to a larger scale version of Plant results in you being able to understand what is happening when the outcome is not so good. You know ruffly what kind of changes you need to do to make a better result. I believe that skipping this "Lab" style of learning and going straight to trying to make fuel with a large scale Plant is foolish and can even be dangerous.

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                          • Thank you very much for your advice Wheels !!!! I had thought to do it more or less in the way that you propose me. Means I'm on track

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                            • Hola Alejandro. LLevo tiempo con este tema pero voy despacio e intentando aprender de todos y todo, actualmente compré un molino triturador de 10 HP y estoy haciendo acopio de plástico en buen estado y tengo dos toneladas de plastico triturado y envasado. En espera de comenzar con algún otro proceso más afinado como es el suyo. u7n saludo. podría añadir fotos?
                              Last edited by ladanivaca; 04-17-2015, 09:27 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by ladanivaca View Post
                                Hola Alejandro. LLevo tiempo con este tema pero voy despacio e intentando aprender de todos y todo, actualmente compré un molino triturador de 10 HP y estoy haciendo acopio de plástico en buen estado y tengo dos toneladas de plastico triturado y envasado. En espera de comenzar con algún otro proceso más afinado como es el suyo. u7n saludo. podría añadir fotos?
                                Can anyone translate this to English for us all?
                                Then we may be able to help the Poster.

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