Joule Ringer!

[Slider2732]

New to the ringing here, though was a campanologist in my early years

Enjoyed the video Lasersaber and must say, that car is really cool.
(i've always wondered if an electric cars batteries can be rung when it's at cruising speed).

Woopy's idea looks an absolute cracker
I've got a few of those from old monitors and will definitely try one in place of the elusive exotic toroid.
A question Woopy - did you keep the little spring clip things that hold the two pieces together ? I've thrown those away, so am wondering if securely putting the two sides together and gluing would work.

[minoly]

Lasersaber,
that diode in there and w/ the cap across a pot is the JAM!
I added that to my SSG and turned it solid state immediately, lighting up the neon full bright w/ 6 volts.
this is the basic SSG w/o the joule thief twist.

Anyway, my primary went from 6.35 to 6.25 and has stayed right there for the last 2 hours while the charging has slowly and steadily increased from 6.09 to 6.35 in as much time. I'm going to let it run over night, test the power in the morning... if I do not reply back, it was fluff - otherwise cool.
this may warrant an attempt on the big wheel.

BTW - what made you think of adding the diode?

cheers,
Patrick

Ok - G'day :-)
some time in the middle of the night, this thing dropped out of tune and took my primary down to 6.11 while the charge battery stayed at about 6.40. put a bulb on it... it's not fluff
however, the voltages are too close to call it anything. I see more runs in my future...
will experiment lighting some led's and cfl's today...

Patrick

[LaserSaber]

I updated my website with more pictures and a source for the bulbs.

LaserHacker.com

More to come soon.

[cikljamas]

LaserSeber, listen very carefully because i am gonna say this only once:

Stick them up, and handover your setup, and electric vehicle too, of course to me!

There is no smiles, so it means i am serious, of course. (ups, there is smile though, oh, what a relief for you, ha?)

And now something completely different (but not spanish inquisition), serious question: could i disassemble some old pc monitors (or something else) and try to find there some similar toroids or it has to be exact toroid that you have presented in your vids?

Second: Have you tried some other transistors, and what were the results of these testings with different transistors?

Cheers!

P.S. Congratulations! (I forgot to put this word at the beginning of this love letter to you, so i am placing it at the end, sorry!)

the end

[Lidmotor]

Lasersaber's electric car ???

@Lasersaber
Is this your electric car? It is called a Comuta Car. I found this 1980 model for sale and it looks like yours. It is actually a pretty interesting design. It looks like something out of the Jetsons. They say that the range is about 50 miles and top speed about 45.

For Sale: 1980 Comuta Car, Ready to drive, $3500.00, Owensboro, KY - GasSavers.org - Helping You Save at the Pump Hypermiling and Fuel Efficiency Forum

Here is the earlier version called the Citicar:

Citicar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have been searching for the toroid core but still no luck. If we can't find that core we are back to much less effecient situation but it is still doable. The biggest ferrite cores that I have found are 2 1/2" to 3" od. Getting the 750 winds on the secondary gets hard though with the smaller size.

Lidmotor

[NickZ]

Guys:
I thought that this would come in handy at this point, of finding no big toroids. Might be one way around it. Woopy is doing something similar.
Willy (IST) had mentioned using the Tv yokes as the toroid, years ago.
and now Tariel Kapanadze's friends are also experimenting with using them
Somehow it all looks similar... to the Lasersabers design.
Now theres a lot more of those yoke (ferrite) coils to be had, as everyone want the flat screen Tvs and monitors, and the regular crts are being trashed.

I found this video by Willy96 very interesting, especially the part showing the magnet effects on the output.
FREE ENGERY COIL - YouTube

[LaserSaber]

Hi Lidmotor,

That car was made by the same company. Mine is called the vanguard city car. It is a fun project. People never stop asking questions about it when I pull into a store parking lot with it.

This morning I had a breakthrough building a Joule Ringer with a ferrite E core. It was very easy to make and should be easy for everyone to build. More info will be coming soon.

[cikljamas]

Does anyone know how much HV LaserSebers toroid could have on the output? I bet LaserSeber knows. In USA CFLs works with 110 V? Does it mean that we have to wound more turns on the secondary here in Europe (220V)?

@LaserSeber, sorry for my Monty Pythons humor, and thanks for answers!

[LaserSaber]

@cikljamas

I tried a 2n3055 transistor and it works great. I am sure others would work also work.

[cikljamas]

@cikljamas

I tried a 2n3055 transistor and it works great. I am sure others would work also work.

Thanks!

Tomorrow i am going to disassemble one monitor and pull out the toroid from it, so we shell see how successful i am going to be in this job.

Just one more question: those CFLs which you lit with your set up, are they specify as 8 Watts bulbs, or 11 W, or 15 W? I mean if you put CFLs which needs more power to be lited then the efficiency of your set up should diminish i presume, am i right?

Cheers!

[kcarring]

This morning I had a breakthrough building a Joule Ringer with a ferrite E core. It was very easy to make and should be easy for everyone to build. More info will be coming soon.

I'm a bit confused... didn't you already build, and publish a video about a build of the joule ringer with an off the shelf E-core? Or is this an entirely new joule ringer. Thanks.

[Kokomoj0]

Hi guys,

It's great to see you all working on this already. I plan on posting a lot more info on my webpage in the next few days. I would put a Pot. where the resistor is for better tuning. The diode is very important! Every diode I have tried worked fine but some of them burn out with use.

congrats on your chopper circuit. looks good.

I was thinking the same thing, because I presume that should you change to a different bulb supplier you would need to tweek the tuning a bit.

Did you per chance use a generator and check the decay time of the light after a pulse?

[LaserSaber]

@kcarring

This E core is wound a different way. It's much easier to build this way. It is not yet quite as bright as the toroid ringer but I think I will get it when I find the right winds to wire guage ratio.

[totoalas]

joule ringer 2 alternative parts

You need to get a Metglas toroid core. The H1061 transistor is a NPN power transistor rated at maximum 100 volt
and 4 Ampere. The transistor can switch up to a speed of 10MHz. I think that almost ANY power NPN that
have approx. the same ratings can be used since the oscillator frequency of the Ringer is in the audio range.
I also think that a normal Ferrite toroid core will do in this circuit. I also think that it will be easier to tune
the circuit if you put a 5K potmeter in series with a 1K resistor at the base of the transistor. Put the 10nF
ceramic capacitor across the potmeter.

cut n paste from groundloop

cheers

totoalas

[totoalas]

Basic Slayer with Rectangular iron core

Using MPSA06 ( another MPSA06 b to e and c to b ee left hanging) 1 m ohm resistor rectangular iron core 10 cm by 20 cm 600 t on both sides bottom bifilar plastic insulated 1 hanging 2 & r connected to + 12 v and 4 to C ........ 2 in4148 in series connected from e to b ; one ,085 uf c to +

I was able to light 4 220 v ac (5 leds ) in parallel and series.... until my wall adaptor burn out

It will not light a cfl or fluro but you can touch the two ends without shock and ringer noise



Will try again tomorrow with a new power supply

hope this help please replicate

cheers

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