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  • Center Tap Transformers : Re : Xee2' Inverter

    Being from Canada, it turns out I cannot order from Radio Shack, and I had The Source try the part number; they can't get them in. So I went looking for someone who makes a variety of such transformers.

    Turns out Hammond has quite a variety:

    Hammond Mfg. - Power Transformer - Economical Single Primary - (166 Series)

    They even make this one:
    Model 166S2
    25 VA
    Primary 115V 60 Hz.
    Secondary 2.5 C.T.
    10 amps

    I'm thinking that might make HV for fluorescents? Used in Reverse would that not take 12v up higher than 500?

    In Canada, Main Electronics (Vancouver) handles Hammond Transformers.

    Cheers
    Last edited by kcarring; 11-22-2011, 09:42 AM.
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    Has anyone seen my Bedini Ceiling Fan that pushes the warm air down, and charges batteries as an added bonus? Me neither. 'Bout time I made one!!!!! :P

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    • Originally posted by kcarring View Post
      They even make this one:
      Model 166S2
      25 VA
      Primary 115V 60 Hz.
      Secondary 2.5 C.T.
      10 amps
      I think 0.5 amp size would be a better choice (smaller).

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      • Originally posted by LaserSaber View Post
        Thank you Lasersaber for the diode/cap mod to your continuation of the Joule Ringer.

        I'm using it here on a multicoil SS SSG
        battery charger - solid state energizer - YouTube

        still curious what made you think of placing that diode at the base...

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        • Originally posted by xee2 View Post
          I think 0.5 amp size would be a better choice (smaller).
          Ok. I actually ordered what I thought would be closest to what you used, as my initial goal is to replicate your circuit as closely as possible, so I think I ordered
          a 110VAC TO 12 VAC CT 1 AMP
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          Has anyone seen my Bedini Ceiling Fan that pushes the warm air down, and charges batteries as an added bonus? Me neither. 'Bout time I made one!!!!! :P

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          • I ran the Davro mod circuit (posted on previous page) at higher voltages. At 3.0 volts current is 280 mA and bulb is much brighter. At 6.0 volts current is 527 mA and bulb is very much bright. Transistor does not get hot (no heat sink) but may heat up if left on for a long time.

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            • When using the Davro mod on Xee2's circuit it definitely gives me a higher output but I do not get the neons to light. I am running off of a battery and was wondering if the neons were a product of the higher amperage of his wall wort. What have I done wrong? The schematic seems pretty straight forward.

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              • @Zardox,

                Try a 5 watt bulb.

                @SkyWatcher,

                Are you gainig a net power increase on your Tesla Switch charging batteries while running a load with the inverter? Can you upload a video of this?
                Last edited by Allen Burgess; 11-23-2011, 02:47 PM.

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                • Joule thief lighting xenon tube using Davro inductor
                  video >>> Joule thief lighting xenon - YouTube

                  NOTE: It takes about 2000 volts to light xenon tube, therefore circuit should light several LED bulbs in series.

                  Last edited by xee2; 11-24-2011, 03:26 AM.

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                  • Hi folks, Hi allen, I have not made enough detailed tests to know for sure, though It might have potential, one would have to see for themselves if there is any.
                    My still cameras video output is not very good.
                    peace love light
                    tyson

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                    • Xee2 Question

                      Hey Xee2,

                      I found the closest thing i could, nearby, a Hammond 166J12.

                      It says, on it:

                      GRN-GRN/YEL-GRN: 12.6VCT 1A
                      BLK-BLK 115V 60 HZ

                      I don't have an MJE13007, but I do have a MJL21194 which is rated
                      VCEO 250V
                      VCBO 400V
                      VCEX@1.5V 400V

                      Do you think I'm close enough to take a shot at it?
                      Thanks
                      Kyle

                      Also... The original Joule Ringer project by lasersaber....
                      His transformer...

                      I don't understand his drawing... is it a bifilar primary? Like a joule thief?
                      I'm pretty new to electrical diagrams... so please go easy on me here...
                      I'm trying to understand this stuff better...

                      Is this how it'd be drawn? I love the guys work, but I find his pictures/images tough to decipher
                      what is going on, and direction of winds?... Thanks

                      Last edited by kcarring; 11-24-2011, 09:56 AM. Reason: add
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                      Alberta is under attack... http://rethinkalberta.com/

                      Has anyone seen my Bedini Ceiling Fan that pushes the warm air down, and charges batteries as an added bonus? Me neither. 'Bout time I made one!!!!! :P

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                      • @ kcarring

                        Transformer should work. I am not familiar with transistor. Schematic looks correct.

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                        • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post


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                          peace love light
                          tyson

                          I tried to step up the power for Joule Thief circuits and found out that it can't deliver high current through transformer. It gives out high voltage so forcing you to use really high load impedance (LEDs). Such load as regular light bulb just doesn't light up. I think the problem is the switching. JT can't switch clean and abrupt enough to allow sudden high current. Now I think I know why Tesla used spark gap for primary tank circuit. The French flip flop really interest me. At first I can't figure out how it oscillate since the circuit is exactly the same on each side, but I found an explanation.

                          How to Build An Inverter? The Ultimate Circuit of a Mini Inverter

                          I think powerful inverter has great potential for OU as well as high power application for its switching capability.

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                          • Originally posted by kcarring View Post
                            Hey Xee2,

                            I found the closest thing i could, nearby, a Hammond 166J12.

                            It says, on it:

                            GRN-GRN/YEL-GRN: 12.6VCT 1A
                            BLK-BLK 115V 60 HZ

                            I don't have an MJE13007, but I do have a MJL21194 which is rated
                            VCEO 250V
                            VCBO 400V
                            VCEX@1.5V 400V

                            Do you think I'm close enough to take a shot at it?
                            Thanks
                            Kyle

                            Also... The original Joule Ringer project by lasersaber....
                            His transformer...

                            I don't understand his drawing... is it a bifilar primary? Like a joule thief?
                            I'm pretty new to electrical diagrams... so please go easy on me here...
                            I'm trying to understand this stuff better...

                            Is this how it'd be drawn? I love the guys work, but I find his pictures/images tough to decipher
                            what is going on, and direction of winds?... Thanks

                            Spot on

                            play with the cap value and use different pot value depending on transformer winds, gauge, and load.
                            rod core, air core, ferrite core, E-core, magnet core
                            much to learn with this one. such simplicity helps to narrow down cause and effect in a way that has made it easier to learn - even for me

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                            • Originally posted by minoly View Post
                              Spot on

                              play with the cap value and use different pot value depending on transformer winds, gauge, and load.
                              rod core, air core, ferrite core, E-core, magnet core
                              much to learn with this one. such simplicity helps to narrow down cause and effect in a way that has made it easier to learn - even for me
                              Thanks Minoly & Xee2.

                              I am always very curious about everything... cause in the end, I really want to learn a lot... it's a huge goal, way beyond free energy. I am an absolute huge skeptic when it comes to free energy -but- I am not a naysayer!!! Naysaying is just rude, that's like going to Greece to talk down the Greek.

                              I wonder...

                              Personally, I can't see the difference, between a joule ringer, and a joule thief... is it the addition of the secondary?

                              As well... I am trying to compare the usage of a toroid joule thief / ringer - vs. - the usage of a standard transformer (as in Xee2) -- and I see, mainly, that one has a center-tap in a single wind (as the primary) -- and the other (JT JR) has bifilar, and that's interesting...

                              The two circuits are very close to one another...

                              Has anybody ever tried doing an E-Core, with a bifilar primary? Say maybe something with high AL, ferroxcube?

                              I have a large very rigid foam core, perhaps 14" in outer diameter, and the tube diameter 1.75" that I could try air core... but ... what is our goal here, large amounts of core saturation, or not? Are we trying to run with high impedance, or no?

                              I'd love to hear some theories, I guess... of what the matglas is doing in Lasersaber's unit. It's obviously not that high of a frequency, but what keys to the system are crucial?

                              Thanks
                              Last edited by kcarring; 11-24-2011, 09:33 PM. Reason: fix
                              ----------------------------------------------------
                              Alberta is under attack... http://rethinkalberta.com/

                              Has anyone seen my Bedini Ceiling Fan that pushes the warm air down, and charges batteries as an added bonus? Me neither. 'Bout time I made one!!!!! :P

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                              • @ kcarring

                                To see what Joule-ringer is go to start of thread (uses E-core). The circuits I have been posting as Joule thiefs have been posted with that name for many years and I think it is confusing to add another name for them (they are technically blocking oscillators).

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