Joule Ringer!

[synchro]

Okay, new scopeshots and new analysis showing the potential
of this circuit:

Joule Ringer!

I see a comparison between the "backspike" in the scope shots and the charge from my Leon Dragone magnet pump. The pump is simply an air core bifilar sandwiched between two large disc magnets in attraction. I charge the hi voltage bifilar coil with a battery through a DPDT reed switch, and collect the output in a capacitor and diode from the other side of the switch. The point of this demonstration is that after the field collapses, a powerful current is generated in the coil from the field oscilation of the coil and magnets alone.

I believe the same thing happens in the Joule Ringer circuit. The difference is the Earth's magnetic field acts in place of the magnets around the hi voltage transformer when the CFL pulses.

Mopozco has a TROS CFL video where he brings a pair of magnets near the transformer, and the CFL Intensifies in brightness. I believe the Joule Ringer would act the same way.

[minoly]

I see a comparison between the "backspike" in the scope shots and the charge from my Leon Dragone magnet pump. The pump is simply an air core bifilar sandwiched between two large disc magnets in attraction. I charge the hi voltage bifilar coil through a DPDT reed switch, and collect the output in a capacitor from the other side of the switch. The point of this demonstration is that after the field collapses, a powerful current is generated in the coil from the field oscilation of the coil and magnets alone.

I believe the same thing happens in the Joule Ringer circuit. The difference is the Earth's magnetic field acts in place of the magnets around the hi voltage transformer when the CFL pulses.

Mopozco has a TROS CFL video where he brings a pair of magnets near the transformer, and the CFL Intensifies in brightness. I believe the Joule Ringer would act the same way.

It does. If you look at the 10 second mark on this vid.
you can see a tiny round neo on the transformer
YouTube - min2oly's Channel
today she likes this one-

[sniky]

Did anyone make his own hv transformer and replicated this?
or did anyone charge another 10.000uF capacitor when running this only from the capacitor?

I don't have the camera transformer part and I wonder if it can be done some other way....

[skaght]

I tried to do both, and neither worked. I made a couple self wound transformers and couldn't get the effect. In addition, it doesn't self charge a capacitor well at all since the voltage is high and the frequency is high as well, so it just seems to conduct right through a larger capacitor rather than charge it. In addition, it changes circuit behavior radically when you change the output impedance.

[sniky]

I was wondering if someone manage to charge another capacitor (like on the joule thief with the diode on Colector) because it can be made a circuit
with a 555( with a 20-80 duty cycle or 30-70 ) and a flip flop to energize the first cap and then charge a capacitor + scr-zenner-led- (like in ferris well) to recharge the same battery ... and make some light....

[skaght]

The best results in that direction that I was able to achieve was with an AV plug off the output to a small high voltage cap. I could make a spark gap with the capacitor, while still running on low power at the input. I tried running the spark gap through a number of different style transformers, but could not convert the spark gap into usable power even though there seemed to be more power present than the circuit was consuming. The capacitor measured something around 300 volts, and yet the spark gap (based on voltage discharge distance) looked more like 2000 or more.

[seth]

I don't have the camera transformer part and I wonder if it can be done some other way....

Ive used a flyback from a monitor - I dont have the same impressive results as the fuji transformer, but it does work.

Seeing as everyone is ripping apart their disposable camera, why not make use of the flash, eh? It works really well. I've put mine on the output and it will blink for about 5 mins (12V initial input from lead battery). It will also get brighter when i touch the ends of my 1 microfarad cap (lowering the resistance like lid and laser showed). I've adjusted my circuit - im using a neon in parallel with the small cap, instead of the resistor - it has a higher resistance than any of the resistors i have handy (i think - not sure as my multimetre is broken) and seems to work much better. Sorry, like always, for the poor quality of the vid. But i just wanted to show that the flash can come in very handy:

YouTube - xenon flash ringer

[minoly]

that's a nice disco light dude

we rectified the second coil w/ no problem and fed it back into the 6 volt battery, thereby closing the loop (Bedini/Cole style) - pulls 345mA, nice light, and the voltage remains constant for 24 hours. you've got to make sure and do it tesla impulse style

[mikrovolt]

I think lidmotor's last video showing the low setting is a good step toward isolating the extended time that LS got with just a few brief taps on the battery. The low setting allows experimentation from outside the circuit without losing what I refer to as population inversion. That is the number of excited ions to non-excited ions is relatively stable at low luminescience.

I put together a colpitt oscillator puts out spikes @t 50khz. about 1 mA hoping John Bedini will look at it, maybe it could be made to do some good ZP pulsing.

I also appreciate the scope shots, as they have made a difference.

I just got in from work and I look forward to reading everything more carefully.
after I get some sleep. thanks good job guys

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Transformer neo.

It does. If you look at the 10 second mark on this vid.
you can see a tiny round neo on the transformer
YouTube - min2oly's Channel
today she likes this one-

Thanks for pointing that out. I missed that detail on first viewing. Sounds like you succeeded at looping back to source to fashion a self runner that way. Congratulations!

[skaght]

@minoly

Could you post a schematic for feeding back to the battery? I've tried rectifying the output, but it kills the effect when I connect it to the supply.

Thanks!

[minoly]

@minoly

Could you post a schematic for feeding back to the battery? I've tried rectifying the output, but it kills the effect when I connect it to the supply.

Thanks!

Are you rectifying the second coil or the first coil?
We put a FWBR across the second winding of the bifilar of the second coil. When we did this we were using the MJL21194 and driving it pretty hard – 350mA it charges up the 10J 250v cap in seconds. We didn’t do a cap dump – however that’s a good idea, we just pump it right back to the battery leads. We also put the MJL in SG mode w/ a 1n914 EB. The rest is like LS’s last video.

So in short: rectify the second winding of the second coil – put back to battery, put a diode EB - drive it hard

[lanenal]

the length of self-running time

Could it be that the magic is in the bifiler coil? It seems no one has a setup without the bifier coil running as long as the original setup by lasersaber. It would be great if one could replace the bifier with a theoretically equivalent capacitor+resister combination and see if there is any difference. Thanks for the great information and open sharing,

lanenal

[seth]

exciter charging the joule ringer

Hi guys,

I had some good results today with my exciter on 1 AA in an emergency charger. I hooked my 10 000 microfarad cap which powers my flyback ringer to an av plug which i joined to a large aluminium toroid suspended above (but not connected to) the secondary of my exciter. When i turned the exciter on, the cap quickly charged and within 10 seconds a 14W CFL or 6 W xenon connected to the output of my ringer would be fully lit - I was very excited by this as usually i cant get the 6W xenon beaker to light with just 1AA in a charger (not with an exciter, or flyback oscillator). But what made me even happier was that i could light two other CFLs at the same time that stood by my exciter. So i had the xenon and 2CFLs fully lit with one tiny battery. On disconnecting the battery the 2CFLs would naturally extinguish, but the xenon continued ringing for the usual extra few minutes.

Lovely! Give it a go lads - hook your caps up to an av plug and connect it to a large metal plate/sphere/toroid hung above your exciter. Your caps will charge fast!

[seth]

YouTube - exciter charging a joule ringer

Please feel free to ask questions about the setup.