Joule Ringer!

[xee2]

@ Seth

That is interesting. I also have not been able to light a xenon from the exciter with only 1 AA. So somehow you are getting more voltage with your ringer circuit.

I was able to light a xenon with 1 AA (in cell phone charger) using a flyback.

[seth]

@ Seth


I was able to light a xenon with 1 AA (in cell phone charger) using a flyback.

Mine lights when i use the 1AA in a charger on my flyback, but pathetically. It lights in earnest when i use the exciter in combo. Your flyback circuit is a powerful beast xee2 (i remember the jacobs ladder vids) - id be really interested to see your output when charging it from the exciter.

[mikrovolt]

Could it be that the magic is in the bifiler coil? It seems no one has a setup without the bifier coil running as long as the original setup by lasersaber. It would be great if one could replace the bifier with a theoretically equivalent capacitor+resister combination and see if there is any difference. Thanks for the great information and open sharing,

lanenal

The right combination as an indictor of radiant energy is completed. Now some are doing feedback and examining component parts is still trial and error. Conrad does scope shots and examines the startup "big Dip" followed by positive and negative triangles followed sine dampened followed by small harmonic triangles. My discription really needs to be better defined. As the scope techniques converge The whole wave signature is hopefully starting to unify across the board ?

great progress, It is now possible to compare brightness between standard CFL and JT_ringer CFL. for example 800mW Standard CFL vs 800mW JTR CFL in brightness. Also reports are coming in many Tesla variants and more data. There are at least a 4 watt and 13 watt and 23 Watt JTR available at this present time.

With the data the relationship between the capacitor and bifilar coils is being examined. It is being studied as what species of capacitor and bifiliar are <*happiest together*> and which ones are not will begin to narrow the scope as to what reactive charecteristics are better matched. Posts indicating The time ratio between Active State(high) and quiescent(low) or "sustained active state" have been replicated. Can't wait to see this on video

Seth RE: xenon I chopped the cord on cell phone charger to 6 inches. it runs 4 leds with a 135 ohm resistor ( cheap night lite)

[LaserSaber]

@Everybody

Thanks for sharing all your hard work on this.

I am very impressed that so many of you have got this working with other transformers. I was never able to get much of an effect out of any other transformer other than the Fuji AA. I have tried fly back coils, HV transformers, other camera transformers and every thing else you can imagine. With the Fuji AA I am able to run the Joule Ringer from 1V to well over 100V input with no problems. No my latest work has been in winding my own large E core transformer from scratch. It's huge, took forever to wind and was worth every once of effort. If anybody thought my last Joule Ringer videos were cool just wait until see the next update.

I have an idea for testing the efficiency of the Joule Ringer that should work pretty well. On my latest unit I can drive it really hard! It's transformer is really loud and screams and buzzes like it's the end of the world. I actually find being able to hear this high pitched buzz great for testing. It's so helpful to be able to hear the frequency loud and clear. I had this unit driving a large load and pulling a lot of current off the batteries! When i got it tuned correctly in this configuration I was able to to disconnect the batteries and let the circuit ring. When tuned correctly It would run along at the same frequency for much longer then I would have expected. Then after a little while you could hear the frequency change and drop all of a sudden and the lights would dim a little as it dropped out of this optimum range it had been running in. This made me wonder if we could calculate the efficiency by just comparing it's current draw at a certain frequency while on battery versus it's run time at that same frequency with the same load while disconnected from the batteries. If my load is half an amp at 30 volts while on batteries and I disconnect the batteries and it keeps ringing that load for any length of time on my 9000uF Cap then I should be able to come up with an approximant efficiency. I know that technically the frequency will be dropping slowly during that given time but that is something we can easily account for.

[FRC]

Lasersaber E core transformer

my latest work has been in winding my own large E core transformer from scratch. It's huge, took forever to wind and was worth every once of effort. If anybody thought my last Joule Ringer videos were cool just wait until see the next update.

Can't wait to see it and how its made. You have inspired a lot of us and your
contributions leading to John B's latest "ironless motor", I think, were crucial to
its success. It is another example, and clear visible proof, that "free energy" can be harnessed.

FRC

[Lidmotor]

Scaling up

@All
I made a test board with a transistor socket on it to try out different larger transistors. I tried several larger transistors (TIP31, TIP41, and TIP3055) to see if we could drive the circuit harder without losing the transitor. The TIP3055 worked the best for me but what happens is that the tiny camera transformer can't take the extra power and starts arcing. Sooooo----I ordered one of those $4 flyback transformers from ElectronicGoldmine that Xee2 is using and will try that.

@Lasersaber
The big E core sounds very interesting. I look forward to the video of it running.

Lidmotor

[seth]

Lucky me!

I found a 58000 microfarad cap at the radio market - it'll keep my xenon running for 10 mins with no battery (of course, not full brightness for ten mins). The flyback is very noisy when it hits resonance - like lasersaber, i find the pitch and tempo of the ringing in the flyback EXTREMELY useful for getting resonance. I use a radio on the floor and an AV plug to check if it has reached that point. When im charging with the exciter, my hand approaches the exciter tower and the flyback screams and gets to resonance also.

Heres my setup - I'll post a video soon.

[seth]

Heres the vid

YouTube - exciter charging a joule ringer 2

[Muon]

I'm new to all this but find the developments exciting. I'd like to build a simple Joule Thief for starters, beginning with the Fuji AA-battery circuit. I was able to get two of these for free from disposable Fuji's while shopping at Wal-Mart -- the kind fellow in the camera area gave me a couple from the "recycle bin" there.

So I have the guts of the Fuji JT out of the camera... Is there any post here, or video, that shows how to proceed from this point to make a Joule Ringer?? It's probably here, but the thread is so long now that I'm hoping someone will point this out to me. I have a lot of respect for the work going on here.

I do have access to some pretty good oscilloscopes (Tektronix 3032, for example, 300 MHz) so perhaps I can contribute to understanding with my background with oscilloscopes. Has anyone kept track of the frequencies of these? I have used the multiply function on the 3032 DSO to determine power -- it's quite informative. I'd like to do this with a Joule Ringer... comparing mean input power versus output power, using the 3032 to help with the calculations as well as giving the waveform, frequency, etc.

[xee2]

Heres the vid

Thanks for video. I assume it will also light a fluorescent tube.

[xee2]

I do have access to some pretty good oscilloscopes

I think someone who has a good scope could help a lot in understanding how the Joule ringer works. However, you first have to get one working. That has not been an easy thing to do. Good luck.

Conrad has posted some Joule ringer scope shots in the Joule ringer thread at Free Energy

[Muon]

I have appreciated your posts, Xee2, and schematics. You say,

However, you first have to get one working. That has not been an easy thing to do.

And I believe you... Is there a description of how to go from a Fuji camera JT circuit to a Joule Thief circuit first of all? Sorry to ask, perhaps I should study the thing out, just seeing if someone has explained the layout of the Fuji AA circuit.

For example -- Just lighting a simple LED with it, where to put the LED? so I can look at input and output voltages and currents. (For the currents, I've found the easiest is to put a 1 ohm resistor in series.)

[xee2]

@ Muon

Read through the Joule ringer thread and you will see that there is no "how to". LaserSaber said he would post a video showing how to make one, but that has not happened yet. Many of us have gotten a few minutes of run time, but he is the only one able to get 20 to 40 minutes that I recall and he can only do it with one type of transformer.

To use Fuji board as Jule thief, just replace large capacitor with a fluorescent tube or neon bulb.

[dragon]

Interesting developments....

I think someone who has a good scope could help a lot in understanding how the Joule ringer works. However, you first have to get one working. That has not been an easy thing to do. Good luck.

Conrad has posted some Joule ringer scope shots in the Joule ringer thread at Free Energy

Speaking of scope shots and some oddities with Lasers Joule ringer... I've blown through a bunch of transistors and little transformers. I found this while pushing them pretty hard and decided to make up my own transformer wound on a flyback core. It's basically the same as the little transformers- as best as I can figure out - it has a 15 turn coil of 26 wire, 6 turn of 22 wire as the base and primary windings. My first one had 1750 turns of 32 wire on the secondary. The first two didn't last long enough to gather any real data - longivity runs etc but I did get some screen shots.

This one really worked well - until it produced a sweet smell of ozone and quit. The second was rewound with 1400 turns of 32 wire and wasn't quite as robust but worked well - yep until, once again, it arc'd over and quit. The most resent one has only 1100 turns and doesn't perform as well but it's been through the mill with tests and still survives.

Below are the scope shots of various coils... each of them displays a distinctive ring up. An interesting positive feedback... First is the 1750 turn coil, second is the 1400 and third is the 1100. The 4th is what I called snowy mountains when you zoom in on the ring up section of the 3rd shot...

So far I'm only able to get a 15 min run with it using 30000uf which, if my calculations is right should only run about 47 seconds with the energy its drawing. I've run into this only 1 other time.
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[Jbignes5]

Speaking of scope shots and some oddities with Lasers Joule ringer... I've blown through a bunch of transistors and little transformers. I found this while pushing them pretty hard and decided to make up my own transformer wound on a flyback core. It's basically the same as the little transformers- as best as I can figure out - it has a 15 turn coil of 26 wire, 6 turn of 22 wire as the base and primary windings. My first one had 1750 turns of 32 wire on the secondary. The first two didn't last long enough to gather any real data - longivity runs etc but I did get some screen shots.

This one really worked well - until it produced a sweet smell of ozone and quit. The second was rewound with 1400 turns of 32 wire and wasn't quite as robust but worked well - yep until, once again, it arc'd over and quit. The most resent one has only 1100 turns and doesn't perform as well but it's been through the mill with tests and still survives.

Below are the scope shots of various coils... each of them displays a distinctive ring up. An interesting positive feedback... First is the 1750 turn coil, second is the 1400 and third is the 1100. The 4th is what I called snowy mountains when you zoom in on the ring up section of the 3rd shot...

So far I'm only able to get a 15 min run with it using 30000uf which, if my calculations is right should only run about 47 seconds with the energy its drawing. I've run into this only 1 other time.

I suggest using a liquid like oils to insulate your windings and cool them down. Put your small transformers in an oil bath and I bet they will last forever. The easiest way to do this is to heat the oil up and place the transformer in the bath. Any air will get expanded and pushed out of the coil as the oil seeps into the windings. Don't get it to hot just enough to expand air bubbles. The oil dielectric is a better choice then air especially when dealing with this kind of energy.