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  • Originally posted by aaron5120 View Post
    Hi Totoalas,
    I tried to catch up with your sketch, but am confused with some of the components, for instance, what is the component "c", which has 5 leads in it? Is it the Joule Ringer circuit? So can you draw out the circuit in the sketch ?
    In your previous clips of YT, the transformer has 110V--0, 0--110V in its primary, then 15V--0--15V in the secondary. Now this is not the same in your sketch showed. And also I cannot find out where is the output to the led lamps in the sketch.
    Please clarify or make some indications in your sketch. Thank you in advance.
    aaron5120
    Hi sorry for the quick sketcth I made since im bedridden right now and just want to pass the info in a hurry anyway

    1 c is the collector from the transistor just touching the toroid
    2. transformer 15 0 15 input out put 110 0 0 110 30 watts
    3. standard xee2 joule ringer - to emitter + to 0 (in center tap)
    left to Collector 15 right to base trigger 15
    4. Output 110 110 to parallel led lamps 9 pcs 5 watts 220 v ac
    0 to 2 ceramic ring magnets then to a toroid going to the positive of battery
    0 going to to toroid with open end

    hope this help

    totoalas

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    • Illness

      Totoalas,

      Keep your fluids up! Thanks for the key to the schematic. The blue wire from the collector to just touching the toroid looks as though it may be acting as a spark gap generator. Perhaps you really are on to something here, like Mopozco's latest light circuits. We need to clean the schematic up. Good work. Thanks again.
      Last edited by Allen Burgess; 02-23-2012, 05:05 PM.

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      • Hi folks, this circuit though probably similar to many before, seems to be performing well.
        The single 1.2 volt nimh is gaining equal or greater voltage than what the two 1.2 volt nimh in series are losing.
        I know usually people hook up two in parallel on the charging side, though the higher resistance of the single cell seems to be working well lighting up a single white led close to full brightness.
        here is a diagram of the simple circuit, let me know what you think and if you try it, let me know how it is working, thanks.


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        peace love light
        tyson

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        • Originally posted by totoalas View Post
          Hi sorry for the quick sketcth I made since im bedridden right now and just want to pass the info in a hurry anyway

          1 c is the collector from the transistor just touching the toroid
          2. transformer 15 0 15 input out put 110 0 0 110 30 watts
          3. standard xee2 joule ringer - to emitter + to 0 (in center tap)
          left to Collector 15 right to base trigger 15
          4. Output 110 110 to parallel led lamps 9 pcs 5 watts 220 v ac
          0 to 2 ceramic ring magnets then to a toroid going to the positive of battery
          0 going to to toroid with open end

          hope this help

          totoalas
          Thanks Totoalas, take a rest and get well soon. thanks for the clarification. I think I figured it out now.
          Will post results when I get the circuit hooked up. The Xee2 JR circuit seems to be the one titled "joule thief with 120VAC led bulb part 7" in his YT channel. You made an advancement to Xee2's ckt, placing a magnetic coupling mechanism to the transformer. So the ceramic magnets and the ferrite toroid constitute the innovation herein for a feedback to the source.
          Great job, Totoalas. Must try this idea.
          aaron5120

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          • Hey guys!
            I have been playing around with what lasersaber calls the super efficient joule ringer, and lidmotor says is a variation of a blocking oscillator. Not sure what it is exactly, but I know it works, and pretty dang well....
            I wired this thing up with a dead AA battery in series with the LED across the 2n2222a tranny, to see how well, or even if it would charge a battery.
            It's been running for well over an hour now, and I am pretty excited by what I see so far.
            at the beginning of the test, once the circuit was turned on, the voltage of the primary AA was 1.14V loaded, and the charging AA battery was .98V
            after nearly an hour and a half, the primary is now sitting at 1.15V while the charging battery is reading 1V.
            I am not sure what exactly is happening here, and I know an hour and a half isn't much time for a test like this, but so far, I am ahead on both sides of the circuit.
            If this keeps up like this for any length of time, I will report back with how well it performed.
            Just wanted to throw this out there, in case anyone else wanted to try it

            N8

            Nearly 4 hours in and primary battery is still 1.15V and the charge battery is now 1.01V, still charging. It is very slow, but interesting to see how well it's working
            Last edited by Neight; 02-25-2012, 11:16 AM.
            The absence of proof is not proof of absence

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            • Hi all

              I stumbled upon the thread of "Sergdo" (a russian participant at OU )

              and i replicated what he proposed.
              I don't know if every body has already tried it ??

              hope this helps

              good luck at all

              Laurent

              Amazing light with low power toroid transformer 1.wmv - YouTube

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              • Ok, it ain't magic, but it's still pretty cool!
                12.5 hours and the primary battery only technically lost .01V (down to 1.13 from initial 1.14) and the charge battery is now at 1.02 (up from .98).
                so all told, I am still in energy gained territory, and still getting great light out of the white LED
                The absence of proof is not proof of absence

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                • Hi folks, this circuit is showing some promising results.
                  The voltage seems to be maintaining and possibly slightly increasing overall by rotating the AA nimh cells using the method shown in the circuit diagram similar to what Bedini has shown.


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                  peace love light
                  tyson

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                  • "Split Positive" Super Joule Thief.

                    I want to try and combine SkyWatcher's "Split Positive" recharging circuit with Lasersaber's Super Joule Thief along with three rechargable six volt batteries. I have to begin by ordering a Metglass Toroid. I'll run some tests this Spring when I return home and try to upload a video with the test results in a few months. Has anyone already tried to scale SkyWatcher's "Split Positive" recharging circuit up to the twelve volts used by Lasersaber's Super Joule Thief on the Super Joule Thief primary?
                    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-15-2012, 05:09 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                      Hi folks, this circuit is showing some promising results.
                      When looking on this circuit, it reminds me about energy recycling probably going on here...

                      If you run this circuit in resonance and will get small neon bulb lit from single wire in any pin of transformer, then you can freely attach earth ground to that place and see if you get current over single wire (hint: put current transformer there).

                      Good luck!

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                      • Current Transformer

                        T-1000,

                        I think SkyWatcher's schematic shows a simple 1:1 typical toroid bifilar series wrap, and not a transformer with pins. Simply placing a very low level capacitor next to the 10K base resistor should bring SkyWalker's circuit into resonance. Ater lightining the neon and placing a ground wire on the transistor pin, you suggest we place a current transformer between the pin and the ground wire to measure current running from the transistor into the ground? Current transformers are used extensively for measuring current, is this the reason?

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                        • Originally posted by Allen Burgess View Post
                          T-1000,

                          I think SkyWatcher's schematic shows a simple 1:1 typical toroid bifilar series wrap, and not a transformer with pins. Simply placing a very low level capacitor next to the 10K base resistor should bring SkyWalker's circuit into resonance. Ater lightining the neon and placing a ground wire on the transistor pin, you suggest we place a current transformer between the pin and the ground wire to measure current running from the transistor into the ground? Current transformers are used extensively for measuring current, is this the reason?
                          Where you got wires from transfomer, in resonance it should lit small neon bulb from single wire when your hand is handling glass of it. If that happens, it is place where external energy input can be used and with current transformer (also in resonance) you can try take energy out without affecting your circuit....

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                          • Current transformer.

                            T-1000,

                            The output from a current transformer would be so small as to be almost entirely negligable; Merely enough to move the indicator needle on an amp meter at most, way down in the nano-amp range.
                            Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-16-2012, 04:16 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Allen Burgess View Post
                              T-1000,

                              The output from a current transformer would be so small as to be almost entirely negligable; Merely enough to move the indicator needle on an amp meter at most, way down in the nano-amp range.
                              That's correct with small joule ringer but not with super jouleringer..

                              Anyway, there are many methods how take energy out, but first the resonant circuit should start act as pump for external neutral charges... That's the main idea.

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                              • Tony Van Roon 555 Oscillator Inverter Variant

                                @Xee2vids

                                Remember that 555 circuit we played around with? I got into it again tonight, this time using a 6V transformer, trying to reduce it to a single transistor, which never really worked, but I was able to get a FET driving it, and when I did, I got a wicked shock, and said.. hey! That's pretty good volts, damn.. so I hooked up a small CFL and seems like this circuit is rather "spikey" indeed. If not ultra-efficient, at least useful.. the light is ample for RV, evening, it's AC of course so should run out on wire nice, and it's dead quiet, no heat. Also, it's draw(1 watt or thereabouts) is identical to the output of these style solar panels that I get on sale for $9.99. Best of all, it's made from garbage you find, typically. No CT transformer needed, like the original circuit. I'm sure someone has done this, somewhere... so I won't take credit, but nonetheless it's a good little runner. I kind of like CFL driven at low levels, it's very easy on the eyes in a small space, like a camper / cabin.. LEDs tend to knock your brain sideways.


                                Cheers
                                12 Volt 1 or 2 Watt CFL Driver - 555 Oscillator / Inverter - Sentex Kyle Mod II - YouTube

                                *note: If you're not happy with the light, take a second 103 cap, and place it in series with the one on pin 2, to ground, this will increase the lamp to a 130 mA draw, still quiet and about doubles the output. (Still uploading)

                                This circuit is a modification of Tony Van Roon's 555 Oscillator Inverter. Tony has passed away unfortunately. It would be a good time to collect some of Tony's great work, who knows how long the site will remain online. R.I.P. Tony van Roon.
                                DC to AC Inverter With the 555
                                Last edited by kcarring; 03-19-2012, 07:26 PM. Reason: edit
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                                Has anyone seen my Bedini Ceiling Fan that pushes the warm air down, and charges batteries as an added bonus? Me neither. 'Bout time I made one!!!!! :P

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