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    Cold fusion

    I think i found whats going on in the cold fusion claims.

    In my understanding they are doing exactly what Stanley meyer did. They applied a voltage to a pair of electrodes being one palladium and other platinum. The palladium being the negative electrode, absorbs Deuterium + ions in its lattice, being them kinetically trapped, the pulse reverse and allow to discharge the ions electricity into a heating element with electron emission mission. The heating element will get up to more than 2000K so electrons will be emitted and not allowed Back in the ions so they will desorb as helium+ and deuterium+ gases. Helium will be observed cause in the lattice the proximity of the ions is great and they are becoming free ions so they will have the high rate of vibration (heat) and can and as was observed fused. The thing is that the fusion is divided into two parts. The Heating element that generates useful heat. And This same heat consumes electrons or emit them and thus prevent them from coming back into the ion so it will agitate in a crazy manner. Thus the palladium electrode will also get very hot.

    Meyer did the same thing with pure water pretty much the same way.

    In his tech brief papers he show the calculation for the electrical force, the acceleration caused by this force into a particle (ion). And showed sequentially pulses that at a certain point turn off. Actually is not turning off. He showed his electron extraction circuit in witch he actually gates the cell into a heating element. Observing well you can see that if the inductors are not part of the same transformer you will have the exact pulse that he is showing. The pulse of the heating element is very short maybe 10% duty and of a frequency lower than the one driving the transformer so you can have many pulses to charge the water.

    The thing is that the particle acceleration is dependent on the voltage applied and so particles will fly toward the electrode of opposite charge. The lower the mass of the particle the greater is the acceleration and it can be really fast under high voltage. H+ ion if i'm not wrong have a speed of 4.757m/s/volt

    Voltage is = to the work needed to take the charges together again.

    The thing is that it happens really fast if you don't have a way to trap the ions.

    When charged water capacitor, this will consequently move the ions, than you need to discharge the ions electricity witch should be bigger than the electricity you are using to move the ions cause electric fields are not consumed.

    Other thing is that the resistivity of the water must be high so you can use small current to develop high voltage across the water plates. Being high will lower also the min frequency needed as you can apply more voltage with less cost.

    The gases will get out of the water when the electrons balance the ions. As long as you prevent the electrons to complete the cycle the gases come out of the water destabilized or ionized missing electrons.

    When voltage is applied on the next cycle the ions reform on the water automatically and start splitting over and over again...

    The thing about the bifilar inductor is that it doubles the incoming pulses cause the current coming from the cell induces a voltage on the other inductor but is in counter direction so opposing the flux repelling. So when the pulse ends the inductor other inductor will kick the other pulse back as the flux want to keep going in the same direction. But is not just this. When the gate is applied the voltage across the inductor is maximum and contrary so would be just perfect for discharging the ions.

    The thing is that water is an endless supply of ions. It must produce ions to keep in stable state. If you consume them there will be new ones being created. Meyer explained that the simple fact that there is a voltage there the molecule will have its covalent link up weakened and will dissociate into ions.

    He than explained that when the OH- ions are very close to each other sequentially the oxygen will be attracting the hydrogen from one side and the other thus the bound get weak. The thing is that they must be trapped somehow to make this happen.
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    Electromagnetic absorption by water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Water

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    • #3
      Just came up with a calculation based on the charge force to set the acceleration and it became many times greater than light speed, so i need to add the mobility of the ions (or resistance to their movement) and the relativistic correction. I'm not sure how to make this yet.

      The h+ ion mass is very small even the oh- ion is very very small.

      I don't know how to calculate the acceleration having a limitation factor lets say like air drag... Would appreciate if someone could help.

      After all even the water molecule non dissociated into ions have a net electrical charge witch could be taken in account.

      Even 1 volt would cause an enormous amount of acceleration without considering relativity and ion mobility.

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      • #4
        Study William Lyne's work.

        He has the real answer to all these so called cold fusion process, why? Because he's the one that leaked it out to those guys in Utah!

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        • #5
          Hello Silvertogold,

          I had this idea when i saw how much a line of dropping water is deviated by action of a tiny electric field.

          Thank you. I read about him and found something really interesting. I found another inventor called josef papp who say exactly what meyer said about getting energy from the nucleus directly in form of thermal heat "expansion" by exiting the atoms in a particular manner. I still need to get into it further to fully understand. Is the same principle of laser, when you excite the atom and put it in a condition where it cannot come back very much easily and thus it keep releasing energy and when it finally decay it release other photons that trigger another atom and so on.

          This is very advanced in my opinion. Very cool.

          I'm wiling to understand about his hydrogen process too, i just need to get more time.

          Thank you a lot!

          I found very new interesting things about the water color. It has to do with the three fundamental vibrations of water molecule. It absorbs most of the red and infrared spectrum so it become kind of blue.

          The IR frequency it absorbs more is 1950nm

          It also absorbs much of the 50nm and 150nm UV range too

          The thing is to vibrate it in the vibration mode of interest up to its dissociation. Seems to agree with what meyer said. However he also said that the thing should generate electricity to be able to work.

          @Tutanka
          Ho visto che hai votato. Vorresti commentare cosa pensi riguardo le mie idee?
          Grazie

          Fabio

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          • #6
            Im my opinion the second and third vibration patterns are more desirable... However this maybe is not enough to generate the gases out of the water but my be a help in the dissociation into ions for the process i proposed.

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