Peter Davey Heater

[MonsieurM]

I think you should check out this website, he talks about Peter Davey sonic boiler, and it has been replicated in Serbia, and Belgium.

You'll find out more here (scroll down 2/3 of the page):

Shocking history of the revolutionary boiler which bits all possible records (in English)

[ashtweth]

A Win-RAR archive of all eighteen pics...

"Peter Davey Heater .rar"

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Edit/Update:

Sadly folks,
I cannot upload it with any name.

Sorry.

Thanks for the uploads of the pictures brother., email me the stuff please il upload it for you, if not try hotfile.com - filefactory.com megaupload.com let me know if any probs

Ash

[WeThePeople]

Thanks for the uploads of the pictures brother.,
email me the stuff please il upload it for you,
if not try hotfile.com - filefactory.com megaupload.com
let me know if any probs

Ash

I have chosen MozillaShare.com for these.

Mozillashare.com - Scroll down for usage criteria

They require a "Capcha" entry, and also a 60-sec delay too,
But they have the longest inactivity deletion period I have found,
and they will host a 1000-MB file for free as comphensation for that.

They will keep it a full 90 days before deletion for inactivity.

Please advise me if you know of a better deletion schedule somewhere else.

They do however replace all filename spaces with underscores, sigh...



I included the 24 pics I currently have,
the YouTube video GravityBlock referenced,
and a copy of MonsieurM's odd webpage above.

"Peter_Davey_.rar"
6.30-MB (6,607,022-bytes)
Peter_Davey_.rar



EDIT:
It occurred to me this website might not seem completely intuitive to some.

The above link will bring to a page with a file download link
that doesn't appear to be underlined, at least not on my copy of FireFox...

As this link as regular looking words is surrounded with adverts masking it,
I thought I better grab a couple screen shots and point out how it works.

You click the actual words:
"Download it"

The on the second page,
after waiting 60-seconds,
and providing the Capcha
You click on the words:
"Create Download Link"

You will get a session-specific link good for six hours.

Hope this helps keep this info from disappearing off the net.

[WeThePeople]

I find it interesting this was kept from the market due to safety concerns about contacting live voltage somehow,
yet for years a cord that ended with two pins that you stuck in each end of a hotdog (or a slab of meat),
then plugged it into a wall outlet were readily available to the public...

Specific Conductivity of Hot Dogs

LED's lit via a hotdog, lol

Presto Hot-Dogger

[Guruji]

Live wire

I find it interesting this was kept from the market due to safety concerns about contacting live voltage somehow,
yet for years a cord that ended with two pins that you stuck in each end of a hotdog (or a slab of meat),
then plugged it into a wall outlet were readily available to the public...

Specific Conductivity of Hot Dogs

LED's lit via a hotdog, lol

Presto Hot-Dogger

This dangerous stuff to touch live wire. If one touches it; you will finish like hotdog

[Core]

A new beginning

Progress on replicating the heater has been very slow but steady. Perhaps a small recap is in order.

I started by purchasing some small stainless steel cups at Walmart. Knowing very well that stainless can be a pain to work with I moved forward with it. I found the size of the cups to be attractive.

Here are the cups I started with.



From here I drilled out some center holes and added rubber grommets, these grommets are 3/8".
Build note: Before drilling use a hole punch to prevent your drill bit/work piece from walking on you.

Here is a picture of the drilled cup.




With a hole drilled I could thread a 3/8" bolt and mount the cup on the drill press. This will allow me to file down the cup if need be and cut the end 'curl' off.

Cutting the end of the cup was done with the cup on the drill press and a cutting wheel on my grinder. Cutting the end of the cup changed the entire dynamics of the cup. It's tone significantly changed it appears to have much more overtones when struck with a nail.

Here is a picture of the cups with the ends cut. I am temporarily using a copper 3/8" refrigeration access fitting to hold them.



At this point I am gearing up for tuning. Tuning I believe is critical so I will slowly be building a small studio that allows for rapid and accurate tuning. I have an old tablet computer with a 'mic' input. This unit will be reconditioned with audio software to assist with tuning.

Also I am looking for a hollow plastic threaded bolt. Worst case I have seen plenty of nylon bolts and I could just as easily build a jig to bore one out.

Ultimately a good theory is required to give a build direction. I have come up with a preliminary theory that is overtone based. To get the idea across and allow for a much more robust discussion I am drawing it out and will hopefully finish tonight.

When complete will post it here for discussion.

-Core

[wrtner]

Here are the cups I started with.

The $64,000 question is: Do they ring with ONE predominant
note? The complex shape makes me doubt it.

What is the frequency of your mains?

If it is 60 Hz, (USA et alia), then aim to get the bells ringing at:
60 or 120 or 240 or 480 Hz. (You will probably be using 240Hz or 480Hz)

If it is %0 Hz, (UK et alia), then aim to get the bells ringing at:
50 or 100 or 200 or 400 Hz. (You will probably be using 200Hz or 400Hz).

Another thought: You might want to go to this thread which is
lively but also discusses a different Davey variant:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ter-query.html

Paul-R

[Core]

The $64,000 question is: Do they ring with ONE predominant
note? The complex shape makes me doubt it.

As it stands everything is undiscovered. Nobody really knows the exact operation. As for ringing, everything rings with one predominant note, this note is the resonant frequency of the object. What separates two instruments is the 'timbre' of the instrument. That is, how many overtones are included with the fundamental tone. A tuning fork contains just the fundamental frequency. A violin, playing the same note, will sound richer due to the included overtones/harmonics.

So I figure we don't want just ONE tone we want a rich tone. Experimenting will tell

What is the frequency of your mains?

If it is 60 Hz, (USA et alia), then aim to get the bells ringing at:
60 or 120 or 240 or 480 Hz. (You will probably be using 240Hz or 480Hz)

If it is %0 Hz, (UK et alia), then aim to get the bells ringing at:
50 or 100 or 200 or 400 Hz. (You will probably be using 200Hz or 400Hz).

For starters I will be using US electrical system (220volts 60hz) But of course it will be one leg only 110volts. 60Hz simply provides the fundamental wave and that's it.

Another thought: You might want to go to this thread which is
lively but also discusses a different Davey variant:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ter-query.html

Paul-R

Yes I know about that thread, people there became very immature and information being passed on a PDF file. Whats the purpose of a public forum? Why the ego? They have nothing and are acting like they discovered something.

Bottom line: If you have THIN SKIN you should get off ALL public forums. Also it should also be renamed 'The beer can Heater'

When building a device it is Theory that drives the direction of the build. To think that you can simply build with no direction is preposterous.

This will eventually become the 'go to' thread. Believe it.

-Core

[wrtner]

So I figure we don't want just ONE tone we want a rich tone.

I think not. This is not a musical instrument. We need only one
tone. At least, one tone + as little other stuff as possible.

Do you have a spectral analyser? Depending on your computer
operating system, I may be able to suggest a public domain one.

Paul-R

[Guruji]

Heater

Hi core nice work that you've did. Regarding tuner you should try to contact a musician that have a musical tuner device or buy one. This is an electronic device that tunes musical instruments with the help of a meter.
Are you going to do a frequency generator? or you trying to tune to electricity frequency. Cause 60hz or 50hz are a very low notes. Or you can try octave higher or two for resonance.
Good luck with your work.

[wrtner]

Hi core nice work that you've did. Regarding tuner you should try to contact a musician that have a musical tuner device or buy one.

These devices often tune only to fixed musical frequencies,
for instance, E,A,D,G and B.

The best way is to get your actual mains frequency from a noisy
transformer or a cheap loudspeaker connected in series with a
suitable resistor and put across the mains. That is the actual note
that you are dealing with.

[Core]

These devices often tune only to fixed musical frequencies,
for instance, E,A,D,G and B.

The best way is to get your actual mains frequency from a noisy
transformer or a cheap loudspeaker connected in series with a
suitable resistor and put across the mains. That is the actual note
that you are dealing with.

How far did you get with a working model? When you say 'These devices' what do you mean? how many other devices are there?

-Core

[Core]

Hi core nice work that you've did. Regarding tuner you should try to contact a musician that have a musical tuner device or buy one. This is an electronic device that tunes musical instruments with the help of a meter.
Are you going to do a frequency generator? or you trying to tune to electricity frequency. Cause 60hz or 50hz are a very low notes. Or you can try octave higher or two for resonance.
Good luck with your work.

Thanks, tuning the device will be done multiple ways. I plan on building a simple tuning box to facilitate tuning and for future projects that have nothing to do with this one.

I have an old non-functioning speaker that I found in my storage facility. This I will gut and add sound dampening foam on the inside. From here I can install a microphone in the chamber and run it to whatever I need.

As far as a musician. Well its been a long time but back in the day I played guitar. In storage I also have my Les Paul, and Kramer guitar, Marshall and Peavey amps, and tons of rack mounted effects and pre-amps. I also have an old MIDI keyboard that may come in handy for tuning.

Funny, after high school, over two decades ago, I went to an audio engineering school. I ended up working in a sound studio at night and did construction during the day. I eventually stayed in the construction field.

-Core

[Core]

In order to drive the build I have been working on a preliminary theory its not perfect and in the beginning stage but it conveys a simple concept. Ultimately if the build, driven by theory works, then different devices based on the same principles will also work. This will allow for more robust devices specifically home heaters.

Here is a basic layout.

[Core]

Tesla connection?

Found this note on the internet, trying to contact him.

I had the pleasure of living with Peter and using this boiling ball for one year straight , I have quite alot bit of informaition about this .

sound waves are very power full . can cause earth quakes boil water and manipulate weather , also the mind of people . peter was very good friends with Niola testla , and shared a good deal of info with him

As it stands this is not verified. Davey would of been a teenager and also at that time Davey must of lived in NYC. As I know there is no record of Davey in NYC or Tesla in New Zealand or a residence in Europe.

-Core