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  • #91
    Well, I posted two possible explanations what s happening in Davey device. Both are proved by various patents in history. One is by generating high frequency radio band currents which heat water (by eddy currents?) much faster then 50/60Hz current , according to Don Smith formula.
    The other method is cavitation and sonoluminescence heating water a bit faster due to sound waves inside resonant cavity and then surely standing sound waves occur in steam inside can which forbid it to flow out. Generating superheated steam was a very known method in latest steam machinery engineering right before steam engines wiped out by electricity.
    Unfortunately I know next to nothing about steam properties and engines.

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    • #92
      Ok,It may be true for saturated steam not dry steam (superheated) , anyway idea is still valid - aluminum can with steam inside sustaining boiling temperature without using much electric current.Using sound or radio waves power.

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      • #93
        Testing

        Just a quick note. The device has been tested and the results, for an un-tuned rig, are pretty positive.

        Pictures will be up in about 45 min and video will be up later tonight. I hope the video came out good it was pretty thrilling. I noticed a few things that we have to discuss.

        I have to say, water heats almost instantaneously. I was able to control amps from 3 to 10 give or take. Much work needs to be done but I'm confident we are on the right path.


        -Core

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        • #94
          Pictures

          Here are two pictures from the test today.

          Full Size:
          http://i51.tinypic.com/208f90z.jpg


          Cropped.



          Pic two.

          Full Size:
          http://i52.tinypic.com/2ihw9sk.jpg

          Cropped:



          As far as safety goes, many hours were spent minimizing a shock risk. The wires are carefully insulated including the device handle. Regardless I had safety glasses on at all times.

          I will work on the video, and upload it to my YouTube Page. User core315185

          -Core

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          • #95
            GEEEZ Looks like the Davey pics!!

            Very impressive !! [no tune??]
            You must be very happy!!

            I KNOW I AM





            Thanks
            Chet
            Last edited by RAMSET; 10-08-2011, 10:43 PM.
            If you want to Change the world
            BE that change !!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Core View Post
              As far as safety goes, many hours were spent minimizing a shock risk. The wires are carefully insulated including the device handle. Regardless I had safety glasses on at all times.
              Excellent work, Core.

              It might pay to get a rubber mat to be standing on. Put a mains
              wire on one side, and test that virtually no voltage is detected
              on the other side.

              *** NOT an electronic anti-static mat under any circumstances***

              Also, if you think you might get a shock, use your right hand and
              keep your left hand in your trouser pocket. (If you do get a shock,
              it will run down the right hand side of the body, the heart being on
              the left side).

              We're all looking forward to the video and seeing your amps and
              temperature rise.

              Paul-R

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              • #97
                Video

                Sorry guys I didn't take any temperature measurements. I was really just curious to see if it was going to work.

                Here is the video.

                core315185's Channel - YouTube

                -Core

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                • #98
                  Good Job!!

                  Very good job Core!!!

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                  • #99
                    Can you imagine when tuned!!

                    This is amazing !! How many years I have personally craved this device!!
                    Like a childhood dream come true!!
                    Core you coasted to this point !! Speaks Volumes for your skills!!

                    You're just getting started for crying out loud!!

                    If This really goes OU it will open So many doors !!

                    WOW
                    Chet
                    PS
                    I've been spreading the word and inviting guests......................
                    If you want to Change the world
                    BE that change !!

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                    • Observations

                      Couple things I noticed while experimenting with the device.

                      1. Amps appear to have a relationship to gap distance and 'how much' the unit is submerged.

                      2. By practicing with the unit it appears that amps have very little to do with hot water creation. As an example, after filming I tinkered for another 45 minutes. With a steady hand and the largest gap I could achieve I was able to boil steady and fast with 2 - 4 amps. Visually there is no decrease in time with lower amps.

                      3. In video #1 the amps are higher then test #2. Visually the hot water appears to be more robust in video #2 with lower amps.

                      4. If you listen close to the video you can hear the unit buzzing. It is claimed that Daveys unit was silent. This might be a tuning issue.

                      5. Running it with the lights off does not produce an eerie glow.

                      6. After operating and power removed cups are hot. It is claimed that Daveys unit ran cool.

                      7. The glass heats up very fast. Within 10 or so seconds almost impossible to touch.


                      At the end of the day I believe we are moving in the right direction. This is not complete by a long shot. This week I will tune the cup to 480Hz (3 octaves higher then 60hz).

                      The next test and video will include temperature rise readings. Honestly I was a bit worried about placing my digital thermometer probes in the water. Is there any chance that the voltage in the water will ruin the digital input? I have to search for my cheap meters for this.

                      Going forward I will record better data. The amp thing is very odd.

                      -Core

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                      • Originally posted by Slovenia View Post
                        Very good job Core!!!
                        Thanks, I got the impression, while experimenting, that your ring diameter plays a huge role on amps. This could be why he calls for a small outer ring.

                        -Core

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                        • Originally posted by RAMSET View Post
                          This is amazing !! How many years I have personally craved this device!!
                          Like a childhood dream come true!!
                          Core you coasted to this point !! Speaks Volumes for your skills!!

                          You're just getting started for crying out loud!!

                          If This really goes OU it will open So many doors !!

                          WOW
                          Chet
                          PS
                          I've been spreading the word and inviting guests......................
                          Ramset - time for your meds again. He is putting "3 amps" of current into the device. How much voltage? I mean... not even a power measurement going in and 3 amps of about anything would heat a tiny glass of water in no time. He has proven nothing.

                          Lastly... He has the arc taking place off to the side of the bell. This would destroy the isotropic standing wave and that is what the device is all about in the first place.

                          "With the round form all things become possible. Oval, not so much... ~ Nick Tesla


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                          • Originally posted by RAMSET View Post
                            This is amazing !! How many years I have personally craved this device!!
                            Like a childhood dream come true!!
                            Core you coasted to this point !! Speaks Volumes for your skills!!

                            You're just getting started for crying out loud!!

                            If This really goes OU it will open So many doors !!

                            WOW
                            Chet
                            PS
                            I've been spreading the word and inviting guests......................
                            Thanks Chet!

                            We still have a long way to go to get the device perfect and the theory sound. I am really hoping that my initial observation of lower amps more robust hot water is true. Should that be the case with a well tuned device then this is HUGE.

                            I believe with the help of the community and some luck we can unlock the theory and prove it experimentally. I will tune the cup this week and test it.

                            -Core

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                            • Ring Diameter

                              Hi Core,

                              Mr. "C" said that the gap was of paramount importance but he never mentioned why. He also didn't mention why the gap for European mains has to be 2.1mm and for US 1.725mm. He did say something about the width of the ring had to be 5mm or the amp draw would be much greater. So, I think the thickness of .5mm and the 5mm width have something to do with amp draw.

                              Your a great experimenter!!

                              Best Regards,
                              Slovenia


                              Originally posted by Core View Post
                              Thanks, I got the impression, while experimenting, that your ring diameter plays a huge role on amps. This could be why he calls for a small outer ring.

                              -Core

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                              • Day One Test One

                                Dr.Poppy
                                This is just the beginning of a quick parts off the shelf attempt at
                                the Legend that is Peter Davey!!
                                Give it some time!!
                                The adjustments you mention could only improve what we are seeing!!

                                Core has inspired ,The seed has been Planted ,Stand Back Buddy
                                This is going to be the Best thing since sliced bread!!
                                Or Maybe even canned beer!!

                                OH this is Good Stuff!!

                                Chet
                                Last edited by RAMSET; 10-09-2011, 02:27 AM. Reason: Corrected the Poopy
                                If you want to Change the world
                                BE that change !!

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