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    This is what I am thinking about how to run a three pole Mono Pole motor as a lockridge mptor please let me know what you think. William Reed [IMG]MONO POLE 3 V1[/IMG]
    Last edited by rosehillworks; 01-12-2011, 12:07 AM.
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    No image!??

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    • #3
      I hope this works[img]mono Pole 3 V1[/img]
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      • #4
        Hope your idea works. I also have been trying to do a Bedini/Lockridge hybryd,
        but haven't made much progress yet. Good luck.

        FRC

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        • #5
          FRC. Thanks for your input. I will keep posting as I make progress .
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          • #6
            Hi Rose,

            Where did you get your schematic? I see a couple of problems with it. When you start pulsing the motor coils C1 is going to charge up. As C1 charges up the current through the motor coils will decrease until C1 is charged at which point you will no longer get any current through the motor coils and the motor will stop. What is the purpose of C2? C2 is going to charge up to the voltage of V1 minus the drop across D4. After that C2 is just going to sit there and do nothing except maybe supply a little current during the time of the pulses to the drive coils. My next question is why is D4 in the circuit? The only thing it can do is create a voltage drop in the circuit. You are showing U1 and U2 as varistors. Varistors are temperature dependent resistors. Did you mean to show potentiometers?

            Sorry to be so critical of the circuit you posted. If you can tell me what you are trying to accomplish and how you want to get it done maybe I or someone else can show you how to change your circuit to do what you want. I think I know what you are trying to do but I would rather you tell me so I don't jump to conclusions. I am wanting to get my 3 pole monopole set up as a self runner, but I just haven't had time yet to do that. I believe your circuit with a few modifications could do that. Please don't get discouraged because of my comments. I have over 50 years of experience working with electronics. We all have to start somewhere and keep learning. I still learn some new things every now and then.

            Good luck, Carroll
            Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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            • #7
              Why not look at the original?

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              Look at this as three modules of the same shaft. You have the exciter feeding the field coils of the generator. The rotor of the generator is feeding the motor filed coils and the rotor of the motor is shorted only. When you start the motor/generator you can short the generator rotor windings and it is one huge motor till it gets up to speed. Once it is at steady state speed switch it to generator mode and the motor instantly kicks in powering the genny rotor and just tap off of the motor genny connections. A good controller could handle with current sensing from the genny and limit the output current so as to not be able to stop the process.

              Pay attention to the field coils of the generator, upper right and transformer, lower portion. There are 4 parts to this diagram. The exciter, upper left, the generator, upper right and right middle is the rotor of the genny to show the connection to the rotor shaft. The dotted lines show that it is the same part but the view is turned 90 degrees. There is a motor lower left and from what I can see why not just include it on the same shaft. The transformer is an external unit to connect other devices up including a full lighting system. Since the genny motor combo is extremely easy to pulse (short) then all one would need to do is interrupt the flow to pulse it. This of course would have to be done by power vacuum tubes. I doubt silicon could handle the kind of voltage one would expect from such huge windings.

              I am also playing with the thought that maybe Tesla was experimenting with aluminum as a core material to focus the effect. But thats all theory at the moment. It becomes apparent that he could have had iron cores with an aluminum covering. All one would need was small iron rods and fit those inside an aluminum pipe of good thickness. But I digress.

              Have a look at that and see if you can see all that on one shaft. 3 compartments of the same unit. Exciter, Generator/starter motor, Drive motor. Remember if you short the rotor of the genny it turns it into one big motor. Un short the rotor windings and it generates with the help of the motor. Throw some mass on the rotor and you got one hell of a vehicle. The weight of the vehicle would be enough inertia to keep it going. Even if it does quit it will be like a real vehicle and slow down to a stop. At any point you can release the clutch and kick start it back running. Well except from a dead stop. But once it gets a shot from the battery and gets running again it can always recharge the battery.

              Just think they have been making Ultra capacitors, these are essentially batteries well not as much capacitance but the ability to recharge very very fast. A good amount of those and walla you have a nice EV.

              Hell we could throw in a great bank of Edison Batteries and they would last the life of the car. We just need a good BMS <-Battery management system just like they use on Lifepo4 lithium batteries. Not that the Edison battery would need it but hey why not. The cool thing about this is that the Edison batteries heat up as you charge them. There is the heat for the winter and could be vented to the outside in the summer. Heat sinks on the batteries would be a good idea with an enclosed air channel around it. Place a small airflow across the heatsink through the channel and either vented or recirculated into the driver compartment. We got to have heat.

              Well I got off the track again. Ok well see if that makes sense to you.
              Last edited by Jbignes5; 01-12-2011, 03:57 PM.

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              • #8
                Citfa Thanks for your input. I made the schematic from a lot of the things I have learned here in these forums and past research. I meant to draw U1 and U2 as potentiometers thanks for pointing that out. C1 is in series with the voltage from the motor coils when the field collapses. I was hoping to cause C2 to be charged by this, and to make C1 come back to 0v. D4 is to keep the series voltage and charge from going to the battery and only let it go to C2
                Jbiges5 Thanks for the info.
                Last edited by rosehillworks; 01-12-2011, 05:35 PM.
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