Charging Water with a Singing Bowl

[ewizard]

I read through this thread rather quickly so I may be wrong in stating this but I think it might clarify one thing. The concept of 'charging water' with a Tibetan singing bowl or similar I believe is usually associated with charging it for health or mystical reasons rather than anything that would impart an electrical charge. Charge in this case would mean to energize the water for health or ceremonial reasons.

[sucahyo]

FRC, just like ewizard explain. The possibility of creating electricity from singing bowl.

But ewizard, friend who do experiment with Joe Cell mention spark or jolt from unpowered cell too. So it is still a possibility.

Charged and uncharged water can be physically tested too. A friend mention that charged water would not freeze even on the snow with -9 degree temperature (celcius maybe). While normal water will freeze. Both from the same source but with different treatment. This is without antifreeze. I consider it physical phenomena since it really do change the property of water.

Everyone live in snowy area should be able to try it. The hard part is finding something that can really charge the water.

[arKzeRo]

Hi guys

This company makes such a water charging device or so they claim
Taytan International Corporation
Is that a real working product or what do you think?

How else do you charge water? And do not tell me to pray over it
I believe in science not fairy tails or old superstitions (Religion).

My m8 made and gave me an orgone generator tower thing and i placed it in water thinking i was making charged water! I drank that water about ten days after it sat there in a cupboard lol

Tasted like crap btw but i have the big C (fighting it about 14 months now) so nothing ventured

best regards
jay

[ewizard]

Arkzero, consider looking into MMS and Jim Humble. Just Google MMS +Jim Humble if you are not aware of it. One of the more powerful yet very very inexpensive treatments. There is another message thread on this forum about MMS here: click Here

[sucahyo]

Hi guys

This company makes such a water charging device or so they claim
Taytan International Corporation
Is that a real working product or what do you think?

Real, but there are better way of using magnet:
The Effects of Magnetic Water
Magnetic Traps

Some also use stirer in combination of magnetic north.



I now also believe in cheaper but stronger solution than magnet. I even replace all neo / ceramic magnet on my car, my bike and my gas stove with it. See my post on health section. I use it on my refrigerator and find it has stronger effect than magnet. Cheap to make but require effort.

Other method is with orac, or similar device. However, just like what you experience, most method can produce crap because "this energy is one polarity" thinking of Wilhelm Reich follower. This is conclusion after reading a lot of peoples testimony on forum, basically not consistent.

There are some people report great result with giant water vortex without swirler, only with water hose and very big bucket with hole on the bottom. Wrong turn produce different result. Also showing the flaw of "this energy is one polarity" thinking.

There are also schauberger copper way, grebenikov geometry, tesla electrical sauna, etc.


For illness, radiant circuit can serve as zapper, as ozonizer, and as other energy radiator. If you don't believe the first and the last one, at least use it as ozonizer for your air and your water.

[gravityblock]

Properites of the water

I think you're right Sucahyo about the properties of the water changing. In this video, when the bowl is singing, the water is displaying a few properties similar to a super fluid, such as zero viscosity and quantized vortices where the superfluid will very quickly begin spinning at the critical speed (this can be seen in the video when the rotation direction of the "stick" moving around the bowl is reversed. All of the water will very quickly reverse it's direction of rotation almost instantaneously as if it was one big water molecule). This is absolutely amazing. I will be purchasing a few Singing Bowls for a deeper exploration of it's properties. I will also be using it for it's original intended purpose.

I plan on running water up a ramp and out of the singing bowl through an inductor ring. I will then reverse this process and run electrically charged drops of water into the Singing Bowl. I will try with and without the copper sulfate. Hopefully the copper sulfate isn't needed or cause damage to the bowl.

I will see if a temperature gradient can be setup in the water and check if heat is transferred in a wave-like motion known as "second sound" or through it's more usual mechanism such as diffusion. Does the electrical conductivity of the water change when the bowl is singing? Will it have the spectacular property known as the thermomechanical or "fountain effect" (If a capillary tube is placed into the water while the bowl is singing and then heated, even by shining a light on it, will the water flow up through the tube and out the top). If not, then can it be induced somehow. Superdiamagnetism? How will lightly glazing the inner surface with olive oil or other substances change the behaviour of the singing bowl (I tried this with a wine glass and it appears to sing much better, but the singing was no where near that of a singing bowl). The list of questions are too numerous to mention.

GB

[sucahyo]

Thanks for the video gravityblock . Both is very interesting.

Joe Cell experimenter rely on charged water, so some of them have really concern on the way they charge the water.

Some mention more reflective surface on charged water, more water tension. I think charged water is heavier or at least can carry heavier weight just like the story of Schauberger wood log transport duct. It produce stronger bond.



The water uphill remind me of salt water faraday motor. I hear some tried to use it as propelerless submarine.


Good luck on your experiment .

[wrtner]

This is reminiscent of Peter Daysh Davey's two bowl system.

[gravityblock]

Wrtner,

I'll try to work the Davey's two bowl system in with the singing water bowl experiments. Thanks for posting this idea. Excellent stuff!

GB

[gravityblock]

I bought a singing bowl at a flea market today. It sings really good, but I'll need to learn how to play it before I can do any experiments.

GB

[Farmhand]

Hi GB, Not sure if this is relative but I noticed that a pewter Mug placed next to a small Tesla coil type setup "Sings" just by touching it. Seems like resonance - vibration and sound, all go together.

I realise it is just vibration but I was surprised by how strongly the Metal mug was vibrated by electricity. If electricity can make vibration then vibration can make electricity, I think. If I connect the HV return to the mug and then to Gnd I get small arcs between my finger and the mug while it sings, but it does sting a bit.

I play the mug starting at 2.10 mins.
YouTube - ‪Orange Plasma-3.wmv‬‏

The disharge in the light bulb is pretty neat too.

What shape is your singing bowl ? Any chance of a pic ?

Cheers

[gravityblock]

Hi GB, Not sure if this is relative but I noticed that a pewter Mug placed next to a small Tesla coil type setup "Sings" just by touching it. Seems like resonance - vibration and sound, all go together.

I realise it is just vibration but I was surprised by how strongly the Metal mug was vibrated by electricity. If electricity can make vibration then vibration can make electricity, I think. If I connect the HV return to the mug and then to Gnd I get small arcs between my finger and the mug while it sings, but it does sting a bit.

I play the mug starting at 2.10 mins.
YouTube - ‪Orange Plasma-3.wmv‬‏

The disharge in the light bulb is pretty neat too.

What shape is your singing bowl ? Any chance of a pic ?

Cheers

That is a cool and interesting experiment. Thanks for sharing it. I've heard someone claim there is a light, that doesn't have the properties of normal light and it propagates at the speed of sound (or something like that). I can't remember where I heard this from. Anyways, conversion between light and sound, or from sound to light is a promising area of research IMO. Same for sound to electricity and vice versa. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to play around with a singing bowl, in addition to its medicinal use. Below is a pic of it.

Thanks,

GB

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

GB
are you talking about phonons?

[gravityblock]

GB
are you talking about phonons?

Yes, and sound in general. Farmhand made a very nice observation regarding how is pewter mug "sings" just by touching it when placed next to his Tesla Coil. This gets to the very core of what is happening, IMO. T. H. Moray's Sound Pickup Device is more than likely based around the same concept. The speed of propagation of a phonon, which is also the speed of sound in the lattice, can propagate for large distances across the lattice without breaking apart. Below is a quote and an illustration from an article titled, "Tesla's Big Mistake". I don't like the title, but the article does make some really good points.

This only can work because the long, thin coil will support slowly-moving electromagnetic waves, and the electron-sea within the metal of this coil behaves as if it's become compressible.
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The EM fields are transverse. And the only thing which acts like a "longitudinal" wave is the density of free electrons in the wire.

GB

[gravityblock]

Patina

I noticed there was a dark greenish color forming on the wooden wand after going around the rim of the bowl with continued use. The bowl sings much better after the wand has acquired this greenish color. This greenish color is called a Patina. Patina is a tarnish that forms on the surface of bronze and similar metals through age and exposure. This Patina is rubbed off the bowl and gets embedded into the micro-groves of the wand from the vibrations produced by the sound while rimming the bowl with the wand. I took sticky electrical tape and wrapped it around the Patina which was embedded into the micro-groves of the wand, then I peeled the electrical tape off. Most of the Patina on the wand was pulled off with the electrical tape. Without this Patina embedded in the wand, the sound no longer grows or builds up to a sustaining sound when going around the rim of the bowl.

Experienced users say older bowls sing much better than newer bowls, but they don't say why this is the case. Also, experienced users will say it takes time to break a new wand in. They say after continued use, micro-groves will form on the wand by rimming the bowl, and these micro-groves will help the wand to grip the bowl better. Without the Patina embedded in the micro-groves, then the wand doesn't really grip the bowl for a sustained sound while rimming it. Antique singing bowls with a nice Patina sell for a much higher price, because Patina can be representative of it's age, but I don't think anybody has realized that it is this Patina which gets embedded into the wand which makes the bowl sing so much better. I'll probably buy a professionally made wand instead of using what I have around the house. Does the vibrations of the metal and the sound help to produce a Patina on the surface of the bowls much quicker as compared to no sound and no vibrations?

GB