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  • #16
    Good Stuff

    Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
    The interesting thing about the captret is that even though you think the negative of the cap should be negative when checked from the battery negative it is actually positive. Yup both negative and positive from the captret turns out to be positive when compared to the negative of the battery or the can of the captret.
    Sounds like you are "splitting the positive" This EV Gray concept I had always
    had trouble wrapping my head around. Then it became clear to me from John B's basic SSG circuit.

    FRC
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    • #17
      Nice.. You got it...

      Originally posted by FRC View Post
      Sounds like you are "splitting the positive" This EV Gray concept I had always
      had trouble wrapping my head around. Then it became clear to me from John B's basic SSG circuit.

      FRC
      That is exactly what the captret does. But this thread is about this circuit. one thing it does relate to is the bifilar coils we are using. If we attribute the heavy current with magnetic action then the opposite would be a light current with plenty of potential or voltage if you will. This voltage is responsible for the electric field and not the magnetic. The two fields are very different. The electric field is like the exciter type and well you know what the magnetic field is right? So the bifilar coils negate the magnetic field and the only thing left is the electric field. As evident in an exciter type field around these circuits (joule thief).

      John was one of the first to see this field in action and the very first I would think was Tesla. But he used it in the extreme, millions of volts and about as close to zero current.

      I haven't tried the second circuit yet but I will.

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      • #18
        I'm not sure about this version of the circuit.

        Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
        Hi folks, thanks for all the replies, I'll read them over and reply later today.
        Though I thought you folks might like to try this variation also, it seems to be working well also. Hi jbigness, wow, that's some good results your reporting.



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        peace love light
        Tyson
        After putting it together it doesn't seem to work. I think the pluses should be pointing out and have a common negative not the other way around.

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        • #19
          Hi Jbignes5, thanks for the reply. Are you saying it doesn't work as shown, or it doesn't work with the captret setup your using it with.
          This circuit is working for me, though since the 2 AA's are essentially in parallel, it should work. The circuit is looped back upon the drive batteries using the diode and led diode and yet there is the circuit leg looping the coil upon itself, possibly allowing any other energy effects or ringing to manifest. It seems fairly efficient in my setup, though of course given what my led is drawing, the two AA's should last around 100 hours. Though so far, the voltage drop of the batteries does not seem to be correlating to that kind of draw, meaning it looks like it may run a lot longer. We will see, as in all these experiments.
          Even though a circuit may seem typical, I think it's the variables and timing and such, that start to reveal different things.
          After all, a laser would never work without just the right variables set for a given conglomeration of assembled parts. So, i think just about anything can work or show novel effects, with the right setup.
          I had to throw in the magical for once, since not many speak much of that aspect of matter and what makes it really tick, not that i care to dwell on any set theories. I think anything is actually possible.
          I'll continue to play with this circuit and see what tweaks and changes might yield novel effects.
          it is possible, that the simple joule thief, with the right variables can resonate as most know and possibly self sustain.
          I notice the ossie motor by Ossie Callanan, has achieved some of the effects that i think can also be achieved in a joule thief setup.
          peace love light
          Tyson

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          • #20
            It just didn't work at all..

            Maybe I have something wrong with the circuit. It seems backwards to me... You want the positive to enter the two coils and exit to the base and collector. In that setup you have the negatives trying to feed the coils and I suspect that it shouldn't work. I bet you are only forcing the led on and it is not oscillating.

            Do you have a scope? So you can check it?

            Yes it doesn't work with the captret because there is very little current to force it to work. Maybe i got things wired wrong. I'll recheck my setup...

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