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  • #16
    Helplessly helping

    Did anyone read the book?.

    What do you think?.

    Can you see the solutions for Free Energy in modern day electrical devices?.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by kcarring View Post
      I have 1300 watts of bought panels, and 600 watts of home contructed panels and One consideration that I will pass along to people is that if you are serious about constructing your own panels, definitely: use 1/4" tempered glass, and consider (if your going to produce kilowatts) making a vacuum table. Commercially made panels are put together in a vacuum table. Home made panels even when constructed from identical materials - have bubbles. Bubbles allow for condensation. So far my home made panels have held up for 3 years, and I'd imagine they will last another 5 MAYBE 10. My bought panels may last 25-30.
      How did you make your home panels .. be interested in the construction & process.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by powerme View Post
        Did anyone read the book?.

        What do you think?.

        Can you see the solutions for Free Energy in modern day electrical devices?.
        Big book and not a lot of time but I saved it along with several terrabytes of other info
        I'd be interested in any essentials you learned about FE from the book.
        Last edited by ewizard; 02-10-2011, 06:38 PM.
        There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kcarring View Post
          I have 1300 watts of bought panels, and 600 watts of home contructed panels and One consideration that I will pass along to people is that if you are serious about constructing your own panels, definitely: use 1/4" tempered glass, and consider (if your going to produce kilowatts) making a vacuum table. Commercially made panels are put together in a vacuum table. Home made panels even when constructed from identical materials - have bubbles. Bubbles allow for condensation. So far my home made panels have held up for 3 years, and I'd imagine they will last another 5 MAYBE 10. My bought panels may last 25-30.
          This is what I love to hear! There is no waste of time like chasing the mirage of free energy. That is what the powers that be would love, to distract you from doing what kcarring and Tobias have done: something real! There is SO much to do in solar, wind, water, thermo, tidal, conservation, etc. If people with the ability and the heart to want an answer waste their time on seeking the impossible, the real answers won't be found!

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          • #20
            so negative.

            Originally posted by sunboy View Post
            Hi:
            Read many introductory books on free energy devices and materials, claims in the success of these books in the device, and I have done many experiments, such as: Bedini, Adams and so on. . . . However, these devices do not actually feel the significance, very disappointed.
            So far, though none of the world: the real, practical and successful free energy device.
            In the end when practical, successful free energy device to appear?

            Sunboy
            @Sunboy
            Why do most of your posts take a somewhat negative slant on things?

            Why not be more slightly positive in your outlook?

            If you think all of this alternative energy / technology is useless, or not worth much or the effort, then just go and play computer games or something..

            I'm not trying to offend as such, correct me if i'm wrong though.

            There are many examples "new energy devices" that work. (perhaps not on the market - granted).

            ...And there are those who may not have had much success as yet, but still strive hard to acheive some success. - And so they should, as it is a worthy endevour.
            "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sputins View Post
              @Sunboy


              There are many examples "new energy devices" that work. (perhaps not on the market - granted).
              No, there are no examples of free energy devices that have been independently tested by reliable means and have been shown to work.
              Just one needs to self run while being open to examination, but no.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bandboy View Post
                No, there are no examples of free energy devices that have been independently tested by reliable means and have been shown to work.
                Just one needs to self run while being open to examination, but no.
                I agree.

                Apparently the only thing out there really working is HHO in a diesel generator.

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                • #23
                  Savings

                  I have restored batteries with radiant charging. I have made a circuit that is
                  giving more energy than I am putting in (at no additional cost from what I was
                  spending before). If not having to buy new batteries, or not spend anymore to
                  get more in return is not considered to be free, then why am I saving money ?
                  All you complainers can go on wasting your money if you want. but if you want
                  t6 save money, start learning and applying what you see here. I can take my
                  savings to the bank, you can keep throwing yours away if you want.

                  FRC

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by FRC View Post
                    I have restored batteries with radiant charging. I have made a circuit that is
                    giving more energy than I am putting in (at no additional cost from what I was
                    spending before). If not having to buy new batteries, or not spend anymore to
                    get more in return is not considered to be free, then why am I saving money ?
                    All you complainers can go on wasting your money if you want. but if you want
                    t6 save money, start learning and applying what you see here. I can take my
                    savings to the bank, you can keep throwing yours away if you want.

                    FRC
                    Charging batteries works but can you run your house with these batteries? How many batteries would you need to do that?

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                    • #25
                      Hi Bugler, lots of people run thier houses from batteries. It all depends how much power you need as to how many batteries you need.

                      People get far too hung up with this, "we want Kilowatts of free energy, and we want someone else to show us how to do it".

                      I won't be swayed by people who keep making new accounts because they keep getting banned for being disrespectfull.

                      We are all "free" to believe as we want, some of the posts in this thread seem to be a little resentfull maybe because there are indeed a lot of frivolous claims of overunity or free energy.

                      This thread and others like it should start with the threadmakers definitions of "free energy" or " Overunity" or whatever terms they use.

                      All these terms are open to interperetation.

                      To me if I buy a solar panel that is an investment in free energy. I don't need it to pay for itself for it to start producing energy without me paying for the energy. The solar panel itself costs money if you have to buy it, but the enery it produces is free right from the first millijoule. After all at the end of the day the panel remains.

                      If you want free energy from a machine or a self runner or an OU machine you will have to be able to recognise how to do it yourself. No one will sell you one or make a foolproof design that just anyone can build.

                      Not even Powerme, because he doesn't have one either, he mustn't because he hasn't posted a video of his machine running his house or even lighting an led. No proof didn't happen, I can't believe anything without proof, I will entertain the possibility of it. But that's all.

                      I will agree with one thing Powerme says, learn from the older books the new one's are full of tripe. That is good advice.

                      And before people start telling me how I should get cheaper free energy, don't bother. I don't need it.

                      I do what I do with renewable energy research for fun and for the benifit of others not to make money and or some kind of fame. I don't need that either.

                      Cheers

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                      • #26
                        Well said

                        Well said Farmhand. I think it was kcarring who said the persuit of free energy is a journey. It is a fun and rewarding one at that. There have been lots of
                        self runners around. EV Gray, Bedinini/Watson, Lockridge. They always bury
                        them somehow. We just have to try to rebuild them, and its fun trying to do it.
                        If enough people get them working, they won't be able to keep suppressing them anymore. So keep trying.

                        FRC

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by FRC View Post
                          Well said Farmhand. I think it was kcarring who said the persuit of free energy is a journey. It is a fun and rewarding one at that. There have been lots of
                          self runners around. EV Gray, Bedinini/Watson, Lockridge. They always bury
                          them somehow. We just have to try to rebuild them, and its fun trying to do it.
                          If enough people get them working, they won't be able to keep suppressing them anymore. So keep trying.

                          FRC
                          There are no self runners...yet....there are lots of stories....legends so to speak.
                          "They" don't seem to be tying Mr.Bedini's hands much these days? What's to keep him from making the easiest possible method he knows of available to the interested members of this board.
                          Why is there not a thread called self running device where people here replicate the simplest possible proveable version?
                          I suggest that anyone who claims to have a self running machine and acts as if it's somehow nonchalant...... doesn't have it.

                          The first real self running machine will change the world.

                          Perpetuating legends only clutters the path. Much the same way as suppressing information.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 142857 View Post
                            Why is there not a thread called self running device where people here replicate the simplest possible proveable version?
                            I am asking that to myself much lately.

                            I still have a lot to learn but it feels as if nothing is really clearly defined.

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                            • #29
                              Believe what you want

                              Originally posted by 142857 View Post
                              There are no self runners...yet....there are lots of stories....legends so to speak.
                              "They" don't seem to be tying Mr.Bedini's hands much these days? What's to keep him from making the easiest possible method he knows of available to the interested members of this board.
                              Why is there not a thread called self running device where people here replicate the simplest possible proveable version?
                              I suggest that anyone who claims to have a self running machine and acts as if it's somehow nonchalant...... doesn't have it.

                              The first real self running machine will change the world.

                              Perpetuating legends only clutters the path. Much the same way as suppressing information.
                              Pretty well all the people that had self running devices died mysterious deaths. You can even add Stanley Meyer to that group. It is dangerous
                              to claim you have one. But believe what you want to believe.

                              FRC

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                              • #30
                                Interesting Statement

                                Originally posted by SuperCaviTationIstic View Post
                                To be quite honest, IMO, we've reached a time where just about nothing new can be invented.

                                We are all re-discovering the workings of devices which were made in the past. From ancient Egyptian devices, to Tesla's work, it's all been done before, and hidden or lost, but it's there, and making a come back. Anyone who tells you it's never been done before is either uninformed or a liar.
                                I hope SuperCaviTationIstic does not mind posting this here.

                                FRC
                                Last edited by FRC; 02-12-2011, 09:57 AM. Reason: edit

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