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  • #16
    powerme, Thanks for starting this thread and for all the info in the other one. I've been collecting quartz crystals for years. I've got a lot of them and wonder if they might have any use in collecting some type of energy? I always felt they might be of use in some way for energy work. I've come across some info on them regarding energy but nothing I could see how to use for creating energy off hand other than minute energy from RF signals. I seem to recall something too about compressing them with high frequency in some way as a possible way of generating energy but I don't know how it would be collected.

    I've also come across info on lead and at one time was experimenting with it in a spark gap arrangement from Bruce Perreault's work on radiant energy. That's probably something different but if I recall correctly it was important to that device to use lead on one side and another metal on the other side of the spark gap. Bruce has studied Moray extensively and recently got a patent on his work (not sure why he went the patent route though).

    Having had plenty of college chemistry I'll probably give this a try with the zinc oxide and a small generator I've got.

    My biggest concern with all this though is hydrogen embrittlement. I don't know if it's just PTB scare tactics or what but I seem to remember that running ICE's on hydrogen can do some damage in the long term. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? I think there are some solutions to prevent or slow any damage. Ceramic additives to oil are one solution I've heard may help.
    Crystals I have look like these:
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    • #17
      Originally posted by ewizard View Post
      powerme, Thanks for starting this thread and for all the info in the other one. I've been collecting quartz crystals for years. I've got a lot of them and wonder if they might have any use in collecting some type of energy? I always felt they might be of use in some way for energy work. I've come across some info on them regarding energy but nothing I could see how to use for creating energy off hand other than minute energy from RF signals. I seem to recall something too about compressing them with high frequency in some way as a possible way of generating energy but I don't know how it would be collected.

      I've also come across info on lead and at one time was experimenting with it in a spark gap arrangement from Bruce Perreault's work on radiant energy. That's probably something different but if I recall correctly it was important to that device to use lead on one side and another metal on the other side of the spark gap. Bruce has studied Moray extensively and recently got a patent on his work (not sure why he went the patent route though).

      Having had plenty of college chemistry I'll probably give this a try with the zinc oxide and a small generator I've got.

      My biggest concern with all this though is hydrogen embrittlement. I don't know if it's just PTB scare tactics or what but I seem to remember that running ICE's on hydrogen can do some damage in the long term. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? I think there are some solutions to prevent or slow any damage. Ceramic additives to oil are one solution I've heard may help.
      Crystals I have look like these:
      thanks for your interest.

      hydrogen embrittlement has not been an issue on my experience, the ICE water fuel is a primitive way of utilizing what that is already available out there, ICE engines.

      you can continue to staight PEM cells for production of DC electricity.

      i am glad that you have extensive background in chemistry, for your crystals, they are not of much use in large form. they have to be sized proportional to the wave length that you with to work with.

      easiest way is to dissolve them in soluable solutions, then stir at high speed while re-crytallization, this will yield micro and nano scale crystals.

      there are many papers out there on the properties of each crystal element.

      you can also dope crystals or deposit them on other material to differentiate polarities.

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      • #18
        has anyone tried SLOWLY growing ice crystals in a STRONG electric field? I'm talking 10kv or more per inch. Ice is piezoelectric to begin with, but what kind of properties can be brought forth from properly aligning the dipoles while crystallizing? Who makes a permanent magnet without letting the ferrous metal cool inside a strong magnetic field? get my drift?

        Has anyone seen that utube video of the guy who takes 50kv and puts the - in one glass of water and the + in an other, touches the lips of the glasses together so the water from each touches, and spreads them apart? the surface tension increased so much that he was able to pull them apart nearly an inch, and the filament of water bounced up and down like a rubber band.

        Also, I read that somewhere that some high explosive (c4 maybe?) had and EXTREMELY high dielectric constant... and when you fracture a magnet, if it's really strong, it kind of explodes..... Something tells me that if you were to crystallize ice under the tension of a strong electric field, it would be explosive.

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        • #19
          Someone stated that Lead would be of no importance in regards to HHO, however, I don't think that's accurate at all.

          Langmuir found that Lead Amalgam electrodes could create nascent hydrogen (single atoms of hydrogen). These single atoms are MUCH more reactive and produce higher energy explosions.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ordo_Ab_Chao View Post
            Someone stated that Lead would be of no importance in regards to HHO, however, I don't think that's accurate at all.

            Langmuir found that Lead Amalgam electrodes could create nascent hydrogen (single atoms of hydrogen). These single atoms are MUCH more reactive and produce higher energy explosions.
            thank you for having pointed that out, lead alloys such as PMN-PT and PZT are good alloys for piezoelectric HHO but I have not had much result with elemental lead, I did not do much research on it either a I found that it's crytalline forms are better suited for harvesting of radiations directly.

            will you be able to produce the amalgam and investigate it's properties?.

            mercury is a noble element that I do not have access to it's luxuries, perhaps someone here can send me some

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SuperCaviTationIstic View Post
              has anyone tried SLOWLY growing ice crystals in a STRONG electric field? I'm talking 10kv or more per inch. Ice is piezoelectric to begin with, but what kind of properties can be brought forth from properly aligning the dipoles while crystallizing? Who makes a permanent magnet without letting the ferrous metal cool inside a strong magnetic field? get my drift?

              Has anyone seen that utube video of the guy who takes 50kv and puts the - in one glass of water and the + in an other, touches the lips of the glasses together so the water from each touches, and spreads them apart? the surface tension increased so much that he was able to pull them apart nearly an inch, and the filament of water bounced up and down like a rubber band.

              Also, I read that somewhere that some high explosive (c4 maybe?) had and EXTREMELY high dielectric constant... and when you fracture a magnet, if it's really strong, it kind of explodes..... Something tells me that if you were to crystallize ice under the tension of a strong electric field, it would be explosive.
              i had come across an explosive phase of water tha i wish not to discuss.

              with peizoelectic crystals, it seems that permittivity dictates HHO production. can you replicate my water fogger experiment with other piezo materials and share the result.

              i am getting deep kim chee as i am on a work project, I will invest my time more on work and will catch up with the thread when i get home.

              good job guys, keep it up.

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              • #22
                ewizard,
                can you please grow ZnO crystals and post instructables for others to follow.

                thanks.

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                • #23
                  our next project will be Lead Sulfide/ Oxide crystalline cells for harvesting of Radiant Energy, 24 hours.

                  it is a good idea to stock up on lead now, as soon as we get the ZnO water fuel successfully replicated, we will start on this project.

                  it will be best not to overwhelm you guys with so many information, The Power To Be is yours, and it starts by taking action.

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                  • #24
                    All of my disclosures are non proprietory, it is Free for all to replicate.

                    The only way to re-gain the Freedom of man is to cleanse ourselves of selfishness and the sickness called greed. It is time for you to realize your true potential. You are capable of so mucch more.

                    Our projects will be interactive where you will exercise and unleash your power of creativity.

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                    • #25
                      Thanks Powerme!!

                      Powerme,

                      Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!! It's great stuff.

                      Best Regards,
                      Slovenia

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                      • #26
                        Regarding lead and radiant energy http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/alloy.pdf this may be of interest (from Bruce Perreault and his Moray research). I suspect powerme already knows about this.

                        While I had a lot of chemistry including lab time that was over 40 years ago so I may not be the best one for making instructions. I will try to grow crystals as time allows (still have another very big and important project I'm finishing as fast as physically possible) and if successful post details.

                        Regarding mercury I don't know how much you need but they still make mercury tilt switches which have mercury in them usually enclosed in glass. Tilt switches can be found fairly cheap (couple dollars each) online many places. Of course use protective gear when getting them apart.
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                        • #27
                          thanks guys,
                          I did read up on Moray, and he did use Lead Sulfide with vacuum tubes of his own design but I have no idea of his configuration.

                          I have discovered that All conductors in crystalline form has amplified dielectric constant, this is very easy to do.

                          to be able to harvest a particular frequency, you just need to have your crystals sized proportional to the length of the wave. my cells is a broad array of crystal lattice that does harvest a broad spectrum.

                          you guys should be aware of the properties of element at nano scale, All Lies called Laws of Science NEED NOT APPLY as they are useless.

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                          • #28
                            I have been looking into the history of Lead in photovoltaic effect and it goes far back to 1904, that is over 100 years of the known photovoltaic effect of PbS in infra-red.

                            There was a lot of secret work being done on this material too before and after WW2, can anyone shed some light on this?.

                            There's also rumors of Tesla's activities in Galena that he called the Electric Rock.

                            EPITAXIAL LEAD SULFIDE PHOTOVOLTAIC CELLS was patented in 1970.

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                            • #29
                              Crystal size and number

                              What would be the preferred Crystal size and count?

                              Small crystals? 1 to 5 mm? Larger ? centimetres?

                              Do we suspend one crystal in the water? Or a few?

                              Are they aloud to touch each other or the container? Or do they have to free-float individually?

                              Does the Crystal dissolve over time?

                              Does water based grown crystals melt in the water?

                              Questions.. Questions..


                              I will start growing this weekend.

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                              • #30
                                Here is a 1925 study of radio detector crystals. The last page is very interesting regarding the crystal structure of Ag doped PbS, being a wave form. It's interesting that pure PbS crystals did not perform well.

                                http://www.crystalradio.net/minerals/TAM1925.PDF

                                Anyone have the process of making doped PbS crystals at home?

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