Growing Crystals, Piezoelectric Energy Harvesting

[powerme]

What would be the preferred Crystal size and count?

Small crystals? 1 to 5 mm? Larger ? centimetres?

Do we suspend one crystal in the water? Or a few?

Are they aloud to touch each other or the container? Or do they have to free-float individually?

Does the Crystal dissolve over time?

Does water based grown crystals melt in the water?

Questions.. Questions..


I will start growing this weekend.

say that our ZnO crystals was a wheel and the ultrasonic waves was the stick pushing it into momentum.

what is the length of the stick (waves)?

what size should the wheel be (ZnO) to pick up the Kinetic energy?.

[powerme]

Here is a 1925 study of radio detector crystals. The last page is very interesting regarding the crystal structure of Ag doped PbS, being a wave form. It's interesting that pure PbS crystals did not perform well.

http://www.crystalradio.net/minerals/TAM1925.PDF

Anyone have the process of making doped PbS crystals at home?

rw

not true, what size was the PbS lattice?.

yes, you can dope at home with electrodepositions with simple dc power source. calculate your molar weight and time the deposition.

[superman9976]

question about ammonia

Crystals is the Key to Harvesting energy from the enviroment.

All semiconducter electronics components are based on different types of crystals, different sizes, different geometries, each quality can be optimized to tune into different frequency.

With the new development in nano crystals, there's a handful of people conducting nano piezoelectric research at home, I hope that We can also take advantage of this development and use this new technology as a way of obtaining Energy Freedom.

There are many applications for these piezoelectric crystals, the technology is over 100 years old but not much was done until recently.

I hope that we some of you will come together and start developing devices such as Nokia Self Charging Phone Battery, Piezo Cells for Self Charging small batteries AAA-C size etc.

Current Project.Piezoelectric production of Atomize water with HHO for ICE water fuel.

I have been trying to come up with a simple low temperature method to growing micro size single crystals at low temperature that is simple enough for anyone to perform. the mainstream ZnO single cystals are fused at high temperature and vapor deposited requiring complicated setup and technical expertise.

This is a simplified version for home use.
Please use all precaution, I am not responsible for anything that may occur.

Materials:
1lb. Zinc powder nano.
1 gallon ammonia cleaning (ammonium hydroxide)

Hot plate with Magnetic Stirrer
teflon coated stir bar.
1 liter boiling flask with rubber stopper.
reflux condenser if available.
water bath.
thermometer


Dissolve 30 grams of ZnO in each 300 ml of 30% ammonium chloride/ hydroxide. This is best done by filling 300 ml of 30% amonnium hydroxide into the flask and place on stirrer with teflon bar. Turn on the heat to medium, Turn on Stirrer to low speed, #3. Slowly add zinc oxide to solution. When all ZnO is dispensed, cap flask and turn up stirrer to maximum, bring the heat up to 60 deg C and let it mix for 30 minutes.



Place flask in the Freezer and freeze solution to -0 degrees C.
When you reach this temperature, allow an additional 1 hr.

Before reflux, bath flask in a bowl of room temperature water for 5 minutes to avoid thermal shock and breakage of flask.

Set up water bath, large boiling glass bowl with water. Put your flask of cold solution in the water bath and set up reflux condenser with water tube, if you don't have one then just cap your flask tightly and turn on heat. Allow solution to heat up to 60 degrees C, maintain 60 deg C temperature for 2 hours, crystals will grow during this time.

Let solution cool to room temperature, Filter solution and recover crystals.

the crystals are self seeding. these crystals are not the typical large crystals that most people grow at home. the single crystals are very small, nano size, at this size, they are able to pick up all induced waves and convert waves into electrolysis of water.

There is already a thread on HHO, we can discuss HHO piezoelectric application there,

and discuss Growing of Crystals here, there are many different types of crystals, and many different method of utilizing them.

I see that you say use 30% ammonia hydroxide cleaning solution but it seems most of the cleaning solutions arent that concentrated. I have an ammonia cleaning solution from walgreens it says compare to parsons ammonia. Is this good enough to use for this project? Thanks powerme for all your knowledge!

Chris

[superman9976]

Banned?

Oh I didnt know he was banned. I know he was a bit crabby in some of his posts. Well thanks for replying so fast to let me know! I tried what he had posted on another thread but it didnt work since there wasnt enough info and details so here on this thread I see way more details that were left out on the other thread.

Thanks Solvenia!
Any luck on Mike's thread or powerme thread yet with you?
Chris

[mikrovolt]

All I know about his privileges unfortunately continued insults
his departure was after being warned on another thread. He was strong on
everyone pay attention to this thread.

I don't want to judge powerme's intent on this thread.
This thread does have some content, useful methods, before he left I had noted this document:

Best Way to Use Heat From HHO to Generate Electricity

I can point to an article may help anyone to review similar work.

Huifang Xu assistant professor madison Wisconson.

Crystal Hydrogen Vibes

crystals in water produce hydrogen when introduced to sonic waves

Zinc oxide in water can make hydrogen fuel | 18 March 2010 | www.commodityonline.com

[Slovenia]

Powerme

Hi Chris,

I've been archiving all of Powerme's work to pdf files and they are posted on Scribd. I'm getting ready to start replication of his work soon. My supplies are coming. I haven't tried to work with Mike's stuff yet. I just keep his pdf file up to date. It's way over my head. There are about 15 of us working on the Powerme stuff. Check out the thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ricity-17.html

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Thanks Solvenia!
Any luck on Mike's thread or powerme thread yet with you?
Chris

[superman9976]

Hi Chris,

I've been archiving all of Powerme's work to pdf files and they are posted on Scribd. I'm getting ready to start replication of his work soon. My supplies are coming. I haven't tried to work with Mike's stuff yet. I just keep his pdf file up to date. It's way over my head. There are about 15 of us working on the Powerme stuff. Check out the thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ricity-17.html

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I can't believe it! I put 300ml of ammonia into a mason jar and then added 30ml of zinc oxide. End result 100ml of zinc crystals looks like sand! Three times the amount of what I started with. I just finished making it Wednesday night. If you have any questions on how I did it I will share. Powerme gave instructions which actually are guidelines. You dont need to stick to exactly what he said. These are just rough numbers. I used a $2 plastic paint mixer in a electric drill instead of 130 dollar magnetic stirrer. Oh and I bought some walgreens ammonia for 1.99 and froze it to separate the ammonia out of it. Now I just need to test out the crystals with the transducers that my brother bought from China.
Chris

[superman9976]

Thanks for sharing those links Mikrovolt. Yeah I guess powerme was all mouth and no show which didnt sit well with Aaron. He's definitely out there with his different way of thinking. Its just nice when people can open up and help others out without insulting each other. What is there to gain by being rude on a forum thats supposed to be a positive place?

[FRC]

Chris

I can't believe it! I put 300ml of ammonia into a mason jar and then added 30ml of zinc oxide. End result 100ml of zinc crystals looks like sand! Three times the amount of what I started with. I just finished making it Wednesday night. If you have any questions on how I did it I will share. Powerme gave instructions which actually are guidelines. You dont need to stick to exactly what he said. These are just rough numbers. I used a $2 plastic paint mixer in a electric drill instead of 130 dollar magnetic stirrer. Oh and I bought some walgreens ammonia for 1.99 and froze it to separate the ammonia out of it. Now I just need to test out the crystals with the transducers that my brother bought from China.
Chris

Could you outline your procedure and post it here or on the other thread. Your results sound fantastic. The freezing the ammonia to separate the water was a brilliant idea. At least someone is having some success.

FRC

[Slovenia]

No Board Troll

Hi Superman,

Powerme is a great guy with great information. He doesn't deserve to be flamed here at all. He and Aaron had some misunderstandings but that was between them. I think there was also a language barrier. Anyway, I think Powerme is a stand-up guy who deserves some real respect. He has given us some technology free which I do believe will make a real difference. He has a great following on this board. Please leave it alone.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Thanks for sharing those links Mikrovolt. Yeah I guess powerme was all mouth and no show which didnt sit well with Aaron. He's definitely out there with his different way of thinking. Its just nice when people can open up and help others out without insulting each other. What is there to gain by being rude on a forum thats supposed to be a positive place?

[superman9976]

Making crystals

I started this process by buying Walgreens brand ammonia for 1.99 then froze some of it at a time. The added water freezes but when I broke through the ice there was still unfrozen liquid which smelled much more concentrated compared to the diluted mix that was originally in the bottle. So I went through freezing and then pouring it into a different container.

I purchased a small meat thermometer
measuring cup with mls on it
I had three quart sauce pan already
a metal soap dish to suspend the mason jar in a water bath
hardware wire to tie up the soap and the thermometer
a case of quart mason jars with lids
zinc oxide
a $2 plastic paint mixer from menards
already had the electric drill
the $12 hot plate from menards
I setup the sauce pan wired in soap dish after bending it to fit inside and suspended it above the bottom of the pan. Wired up the thermometer to hang just in the water. Then set the pan on the hot plate with the mason jar filled with 300ml of ammonia turned it on med when the water temp reached 140F (60C) I added 30ml of zinc oxide. Now I would churn up the ammonia real rapidly then slowly and sometimes take a break so I really only mixed for maybe one third the total time. I just didnt let it totally settle out to the bottom. I was not consistent at all. After 30 minutes of this I sealed the jar and placed it into the refrigerator not the freezer overnight and turned the fridge to a colder setting so it would be 0C or 32F.
The next night set the jar into warm water to help bring it to room temp. Then heated the pan up to boiling. I also wrapped the jar lid with a towel and put ice cubes in the middle to help keep the lid cool. Placed the jar into boiling water. Now for the next two hours or so the temperature varied since the outlet I was plugged into was one of those light socket ones and was a bit loose so the hot plate would turn off and on. I found out after the fact that was the problem. The only consistent thing here was that I maintained the temp above 140F (60C)
Let the jar cool and settle out and you should see you have more then what you started with. In my experience I had three times the amount I started with. I even spilled some when I was mixing it with the paint mixer in the beginning but still came out with more in the end.

Chris

[superman9976]

Here are some photos of the setup.

[FRC]

Thanks superman9976

Thanks superman9976 for the description. I have done the freezing ammonia
method, works great. I only have zinc gluconate, unless I tried to use suntan
lotion since it has zinc oxide in it. Could you post a picture of what the crystals
looked like ? So if I try something again, I will know I am getting the right result.

FRC

[future pather]

Zicam Cold Remedy mouth spray has zinc in it.

(Works amazingly too. I fear no virus with it by my side.)

[superman9976]

Thanks superman9976 for the description. I have done the freezing ammonia
method, works great. I only have zinc gluconate, unless I tried to use suntan
lotion since it has zinc oxide in it. Could you post a picture of what the crystals
looked like ? So if I try something again, I will know I am getting the right result.

FRC

I ended up with more than what I started with. I tried putting just the 30ml of dry powder just to see what it looks like in comparsion in the bottom of the mason jar. It seemed to barely cover the bottom and compared to what I ended up it was right up to the 100ml mark on the jar. They must have grown for me to have that much more.
I can't say its right or not though. I figured it should be. I tried out the transducers yesterday without the zinc to see output. If you put two inches of water over them it produces more output. Its definitely not flammable. Then I put the zinc in water soluble material and hung it over the transducer and didn't see any increase and tried putting the zinc directly into the water. Zinc in the water damped the effect. Output became minimal.
So I am at the point where I don't know what to do now. It would need to split the water to be flammable otherwise just the fog acts like increased octane in a motor and to cool the motor.
FRC if you look on overunity you don't need to be a member to see the photos and mine looked like theirs that's why I thought it must have worked.
Do you know if I was supposed to separate it immediately after cooling to let it dry out? I just left it in the jar until I was ready to use it then I heated it until it dried out.
Chris