The Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in Energy theory

[ltseung888]

Energy required to change the random order?

@ltseung888

In your model, can you tell how much energy is required from the piston to change the random order into pulsed order?

How is that energy compared with the energy you can bring-in from the kinetic energy of the air molecules?

Kelvin

This is a good question. Give me some time to think about it.

[ltseung888]

One part Piston energy leads out 10 parts Ball energy

@ltseung888

In your model, can you tell how much energy is required from the piston to change the random order into pulsed order?

How is that energy compared with the energy you can bring-in from the kinetic energy of the air molecules?

Kelvin

This is a good question. Give me some time to think about it.

Let us focus on the two ball example again. The increase in kinetic energy of ball B1 = 0.5*Mb*1200*1200 – 0.5*Mb*1000*1000
= 0.5*Mb*1440000 – 0.5*Mb*1000000
= 0.5*Mb*440000

The decrease in kinetic energy of ball B2
= 0.5*Mb*800*800 – 0.5*Mb*1000*1000
= 0.5*Mb*640000 – 0.5*Mb*1000000
= -0.5*Mb*360000

The net energy change in the two balls together is
= 0.5*Mb*440000 – 0.5*Mb*360000
= 0.5*Mb*80000

Since Energy is conserved as a whole, the Piston must have a loss of energy
= - 0.5*Mb*80000

Let us simplify the discussion and drop the 0.5*Mb. The Piston must supply
80000 units of energy (or energy required to produce pulse order).

Ball B1 gained 440000 units of energy – that gained energy allowed the Ball B1 to move faster and thus do work against another unchanged Ball (at speed 1000 units and kinetic energy at 1000000 units).

Ball B2 lost 360000 units of energy – that lost energy allowed another unchanged Ball (at speed 1000 units and kinetic energy at 100000 units) to do work against it).

Thus the available energy to do work by the two balls together
= 440000 + 360000
= 800000 units

This means I spent one part energy on the Piston to bring-in ten parts of kinetic energy of the Balls. (Or I spent one part of energy on the tuning fork to bring-in ten parts of kinetic energy of the molecules.) If another tuning fork is placed close by, the reflected (or sympathetic) vibration may act as feedback to the first one. Thus the sound can be much louder and lasts longer.

God provides the Divine Revelation. Physicists and Mathematicians interpret it for the masses. It can be compared to Jesus turned water to wine. The Physicists poured the wine to the masses. Amen.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi ltseung888, thanks for the reply, after i posted i remembered about the tong wheel and looked at the Patrick Kelly book again.
What have you done with the tong wheel, any improvements or information updates, thanks?

I'm building another pendulum to test, this time i will use a bedini bifilar self triggering air-core coil to power the pendulum.

Pendulum arm is made of wood, with 1" diameter by 1-1/2" long neo magnet stack at end of wood pendulum arm.

Then i will place air-core coils as generator coils in various places to see what placements are best to maintain the largest pendulum swing oscillations for the least input.
We will see what happens.
peace love light
Tyson

[ltseung888]

The Tong Wheel

Hi ltseung888, thanks for the reply, after i posted i remembered about the tong wheel and looked at the Patrick Kelly book again.
What have you done with the tong wheel, any improvements or information updates, thanks?

I'm building another pendulum to test, this time i will use a bedini bifilar self triggering air-core coil to power the pendulum.

Pendulum arm is made of wood, with 1" diameter by 1-1/2" long neo magnet stack at end of wood pendulum arm.

Then i will place air-core coils as generator coils in various places to see what placements are best to maintain the largest pendulum swing oscillations for the least input.
We will see what happens.
peace love light
Tyson

The group who paid HK$120K for a Tong Wheel prototype claimed to have developed a prototype that could generate 1 Horse Power that could recharge the battery. They did demonstrations and might have got funding. No more information is now available. The investors apparently wanted all information confidential until product is ready.

[ltseung888]

Scientific debate with MileHigh

The debate with MileHigh is getting to an interesting point. Comments are welcome. Please post in the General Public Thread.

Scientific Debate with MileHigh - participants and moderator only

[Bizzy]

[QUOTE=SkyWatcher;134769]I'm building another pendulum to test, this time i will use a bedini bifilar self triggering air-core coil to power the pendulum.

Hi Skywatcher,
What is a bedini bifilar self triggering coil? It sound interesting
Thanks
Bizzy

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bizzy, it's the standard Bedini sg motor circuit, though with the bifilar air-core coil i'm testing right now, having trouble getting it to stop self oscillating and so it's not kicking the transistor on all the way.
Though in a normal motor configuration, once up to a little speed the self oscillation seems to stop, but since this pendulum is very slow, i am still working on getting it to work properly.
Anyone have any tips, i'd be grateful if anyone has gotten a sg circuit to work with a pendulum or other circuit.
maybe if i route the flyback to a charge battery or capacitor, it will stop the self oscillation.
Anyway, here is the Bedini sg circuit, though mine doesn't have the third wire.



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peace love light
Tyson

[Joit]

You could place another Resistor between Base and Ground,
then the switch-on Threshold increases. Maybe you try it with a Potentiometer first,
that you see the best Value for it.

[Bizzy]

You could place another Resistor between Base and Ground,
then the switch-on Threshold increases. Maybe you try it with a Potentiometer first,
that you see the best Value for it.

Good morning
Carroll
Mentioned that in the Mosfet and Motors thread.
He also mentioned using a mosfet driver to beter regulate the gate.
That maybe of some use as well.
Bizzy

[yx630514]

Speak with the facts

Dear Lawrence
You can provide "Lead-Out Energy Machines" specific details, for us to Replication, if someone Replication the successful, will be the doctrine of your greatest support and recognition.
Thank you!

[ltseung888]

Multiple LCR circuits is the way to go!

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Thank you for reproducing the Tong Wheel diagram to refresh our memories.

The Tong Wheel was one of the learning devices. I gave up development on it after it demonstrated overunity in summer 2009. I worked on the flux change system FLEET (Forever Lead-out Electromagnetic Energy Transformer). That was successfully demonstrated at Hong Kong University in Oct. 2010. I now gave that up as I learned much from the Tuning Fork setups.

An electrical circuit (LCR) can be thought of as a tuning fork. Multiple tuning forks can get into sympathetic vibration and bring-out the kinetic energy of air molecules. Multiple LCR circuits should be able to “get into sympathetic vibration and bring-out the electron motion energy of the orbiting electrons.

Some of the experiments done on FLEET actually pointed to that direction. I did not appreciate the significance at that time. Now I believe that any one can produce the Steven Mark TPU with two or more suitable LCR circuits wound on an air core toroid. The windings themselves represent L. We need to add a capacitor C (which could be seen on the large Steven Mark TPU). The resistor R is either an internal or an external load.

Rather than leading people on a path I abandoned, I think that I can do more by showing the latest thoughts and directions. Please study the debate with MH at:
Scientific Debate with MileHigh - participants and moderator only

With God’s Blessing, I managed to write the simple computer model that conclusively proved that the tuning fork can bring-in the kinetic energy of air molecules.

That establishes the direction of future research on LCR circuits. There will still be many trial and errors. However, I firmly believe that is the correct direction.

[ltseung888]

Speculation - can the Steven Mark TPU be 2 LCR circuits?

This is pure speculation at present.

Assume the following:

1. An LCR circuit can be treated as a tuning fork.
2. Two LCR circuits are connected via a toroid.
3. One of the capacitors is initially charged.
4. Will the two LCR circuits go into “sympathetic oscillation”?
5. Will that “sympathetic oscillation” bring-in the electron motion energy?
6. Will that arrangement be an effective Steven Mark TPU?
7. Is it possible to have 3 or more LCR circuits connected on the same toroid?

Such experiments are relatively easy to perform. There will be much “hunting” for resonance. I do not have the setup to do them in USA. Any one willing to try???

The inspiration comes from the experiments on FLEET. I could not get Output greater than Input results with the standard Joule Thief. But when I wound a secondary coil on the toroid and effective had another LCR circuit, I could get Output greater than Input results multiple times with much tuning.

The debate with MH and the simple computer model clearly confirmed that at sound resonance, kinetic energy of air molecules can be brought-in. Using multiple LCR circuits to bring-in electron motion energy is scientifically possible.

Once men understand one Divine Revelation, understanding the next Divine Revelation is much easier. Amen.

[ltseung888]

Feedback from China

Chinese Researcher

The Chinese Researcher has similar ideas - use two LCR resonance circuit to bring-in electromagnetic energy.

It is a small World.

[ltseung888]

Email from Chinese Researcher

蒋先生：
您好！

非常高兴结识您，得知您致力于能源研究，成果卓著，非常敬佩。请您就我的实验方案提出建议，若有欠缺之处承 蒙指正。
我在两年前做过一个相似的实验，已经看到可靠的实验证据，无奈实验效应比较小，很难说服大学里的学者教授。 这次我设计的效应比较大，鉴于上次实验的经验，我对这个新的实验方案是非常有信心的。
您看我们是否可以建立合作，比如说我提供实验方案，您做实验，实验成功以后您可以独立发表文章和申请专利。 我相信实验成功以后在工业界将获得巨大的成功。

此致
问候！

　　　　刘晓东

Brief Translation:

Dear Mr. Tseung,

Glad to know that you are doing research in the alternative energy field and achieved remarkable success.

I did similar research two years ago. The result was positive but the output was too tiny to convince the academics. This time, the proposed experiments will generate considerably higher output.

I look forward to working together with you. We can independently publish our findings and/or apply for patents. I expect our achievements will revolutionize the scientific world.

Regards,

Liu

[yx630514]

rotation of the pendulum?

Thanks lawrence replies:
I recently found overunity forum: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory thread, with 3 days to read, on the "Lead-Out Energy Machines" very interested, I want to Replication and prove its authenticity. Because Tong Wheel is the use of your: Lead-Out Theory production, so I hope your help. I want to know:
1. Your Lead-Out Theory One of the keys should be: rotation of the pendulum --- unbalanced wheel (center shift), Tong Wheel of the rotor is using such a structure? Is still using the standard circular structure? If using Unbalanced structure, the center should shift how much? Have shift rules? (See Attachment)
2. You follow-up experiment: drive/collection coil with soft iron core coil instead of air coil output has increased? You recommend the use of soft iron core coil, or air coils?
3. Why there is currently no commercial products?
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PS: You posted two YouTube videos all use the "unbalanced wheel" structure? their COP> 1 is real? Since the COP> 1, Why do not the closed-loop experiment?

1) YouTube - Tong Po Chi Pulse Motor with collector coil
2) YouTube - Lead Out Energy Machine 4th Generation

Very much hope you can clear answer
Thanks again