The Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in Energy theory

[ltseung888]

Tong Wheel is no longer the best???

Thanks lawrence replies:
I recently found overunity forum: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory thread, with 3 days to read, on the "Lead-Out Energy Machines" very interested, I want to Replication and prove its authenticity. Because Tong Wheel is the use of your: Lead-Out Theory production, so I hope your help. I want to know:
1. Your Lead-Out Theory One of the keys should be: rotation of the pendulum --- unbalanced wheel (center shift), Tong Wheel of the rotor is using such a structure? Is still using the standard circular structure? If using Unbalanced structure, the center should shift how much? Have shift rules? (See Attachment)
2. You follow-up experiment: drive/collection coil with soft iron core coil instead of air coil output has increased? You recommend the use of soft iron core coil, or air coils?
3. Why there is currently no commercial products?
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PS: You posted two YouTube videos all use the "unbalanced wheel" structure? their COP> 1 is real? Since the COP> 1, Why do not the closed-loop experiment?

Very much hope you can clear answer
Thanks again

1. “Your Lead-Out Theory One of the keys should be: rotation of the pendulum --- unbalanced wheel (center shift)”. We did not use center shift. The final demonstration Tong wheel was unbalanced by having 16 permanent magnets on the rotor wheel and 15 coils on the outer stator wheel. One of the “would be coil” positions was a proximity switch.

2. The 15 outer coils could be configured as drive or as collector coils. The demonstration Tong wheel used air coils.

3. The tuning was done by changing the position and angle of the proximity switch and the number of drive to collector coil ratio.

4. Why no products? A Company in Shenzhen headed by Mr. Li bought an early Tong Prototype for HK$120K and then developed it to produce 1 HP. The Company was looking for investment to produce actual products. Another group in Shenzhen produced a 3 meter diameter wheel and demonstrated it in the local TV show in early 2010. We had orders for three Tong wheels for HK$100K each but got cancelled after the customer learned about FLEET. China is rumored to have much more advanced prototypes – Wang, Liang, 225 HP wheel and advanced flux change systems.

5. I abandoned the Tong Wheel development and focused on the much easier-to- build FLEET. Now I abandoned FLEET and focused on the even easier multiple LCR circuits. The LCR circuits can be compared to tuning forks. Tuning Forks can bring-in kinetic energy of air molecules. LCR circuits can bring-in electron motion energy of the orbiting electrons. The Steven Mark TPU is likely to be two LCR circuits in sympathetic vibration.

6. Many have tried the Pulsed Wheel approach – Newman, Bedini, Adams, Wang, Liang etc. Many have achieved successes. I do not intend to go in that direction. I intend to go for the smaller and easier to construct multiple LCR circuits. My purpose is not to make money but to spread the knowledge to benefit the World.

7. I do not regard myself as an inventor. I believe in Divine Revelations. The analogy is: Jesus turned water into wine. I just taste and server it (do the mathematics). The Miracle worker is not me but the Almighty.

Study more before you start your experiments.

[ltseung888]

Two or more LCR circuits in resonance?

Dear PhysicsProf,

Now that I have completed the simple computer model that conclusively showed that kinetic energy of air molecules can be brought-in via two or more tuning forks in resonance.

I can confidently project that:

1. An LCR circuit can be compared with a Tuning Fork.
2. If we need two or more tuning forks to resonate and bring-in energy, we shall need two or more LCR circuits.
3. You have been working on the simple Joule Thief circuit for some time. You did the experiments in a vigorous and scientific way.
4. Now should be a good time to introduce another LCR circuit to see if you can get the two LCR circuits to resonate. (FLEET or LTJT is a possibility.)
5. I believe that the Steven Mark Device is a two LCR circuit in resonance. A Chinese Researcher indicated that he had some luck with that approach. Theoretically, two or more LCR circuits will be closer to the tuning forks in sympathetic vibrations.

I do not have the equipment in USA to check it out yet. You and others may be in a better position to experimentally check it out first.

Regards,

Lawrence

[yx630514]

What is the unbalanced of magnets structure?

1. “Your Lead-Out Theory One of the keys should be: rotation of the pendulum --- unbalanced wheel (center shift)”. We did not use center shift. The final demonstration Tong wheel was unbalanced by having 16 permanent magnets on the rotor wheel and 15 coils on the outer stator wheel. One of the “would be coil” positions was a proximity switch.

2. The 15 outer coils could be configured as drive or as collector coils. The demonstration Tong wheel used air coils.

3. The tuning was done by changing the position and angle of the proximity switch and the number of drive to collector coil ratio.

4. Why no products? A Company in Shenzhen headed by Mr. Li bought an early Tong Prototype for HK$120K and then developed it to produce 1 HP. The Company was looking for investment to produce actual products. Another group in Shenzhen produced a 3 meter diameter wheel and demonstrated it in the local TV show in early 2010. We had orders for three Tong wheels for HK$100K each but got cancelled after the customer learned about FLEET. China is rumored to have much more advanced prototypes – Wang, Liang, 225 HP wheel and advanced flux change systems.

5. I abandoned the Tong Wheel development and focused on the much easier-to- build FLEET. Now I abandoned FLEET and focused on the even easier multiple LCR circuits. The LCR circuits can be compared to tuning forks. Tuning Forks can bring-in kinetic energy of air molecules. LCR circuits can bring-in electron motion energy of the orbiting electrons. The Steven Mark TPU is likely to be two LCR circuits in sympathetic vibration.

6. Many have tried the Pulsed Wheel approach – Newman, Bedini, Adams, Wang, Liang etc. Many have achieved successes. I do not intend to go in that direction. I intend to go for the smaller and easier to construct multiple LCR circuits. My purpose is not to make money but to spread the knowledge to benefit the World.

7. I do not regard myself as an inventor. I believe in Divine Revelations. The analogy is: Jesus turned water into wine. I just taste and server it (do the mathematics). The Miracle worker is not me but the Almighty.

Study more before you start your experiments.

Hi lawrence
Thank you for your detailed reply, You are a person worthy of respect.

Although Tong Wheel is no longer the best, But I still plan to replication the device, as it seems easy to replication, please tell me "The final demonstration Tong wheel was unbalanced by having 16 permanent magnets on the rotor wheel". What is the unbalanced of permanent magnets arranged in the layout structure? best to have a simple schematic picture instructions.

Thanks again!

[ltseung888]

Tong Wheel Basics

Hi lawrence
Thank you for your detailed reply, You are a person worthy of respect.

Although Tong Wheel is no longer the best, But I still plan to replication the device, as it seems easy to replication, please tell me "The final demonstration Tong wheel was unbalanced by having 16 permanent magnets on the rotor wheel". What is the unbalanced of permanent magnets arranged in the layout structure? best to have a simple schematic picture instructions.

Thanks again!

Attached is the basic Tong Wheel.

It had 16 permanent magnets with all North Poles facing outwards. These 16 magnets were mounted on a freely rotating wheel (rotor). The force of rotation came from the Drive Coils.

There were 15 Coils sandwiched between two stationary circular boards. These Coils could be configured as Drive Coils or Collector Coils. When used as Drive Coils, the Current would be DC and the inner part of the Coil would become North Pole to provide the Force of Repulsion when the magnet just passed its position. The Current was then immediately switched off so that the rotor would be free to rotate until the next rotor magnet just passed the Proximity Switch again. The Process was again repeated. It was a kind of Pulsed Rotation.

The Collectors simply changed the magnetic flux into electricity in the normal way. Their combined output was used to light 15 watts lamps. One to three lamps were used in the demonstration setup.

With the particular demonstration, the larger the wheel, the better would be the result. This was because the simple Proximity Switch required time to turn on and off. A larger wheel also brought-in more gravitational energy. The Tong wheel also brought-in electromagnetic energy using similar mathematics.


If you want, I can setup another thread to discuss the detailed mathematics on how much gravitational energy and/or electromagnetic energy can be brought-in.

The mathematics is under what I called Divine Revelation 2 – bringing-in gravitational energy. Amen

[yx630514]

Not found unbalanced magnet structure

Attached is the basic Tong Wheel.

It had 16 permanent magnets with all North Poles facing outwards. These 16 magnets were mounted on a freely rotating wheel (rotor). The force of rotation came from the Drive Coils.

There were 15 Coils sandwiched between two stationary circular boards. These Coils could be configured as Drive Coils or Collector Coils. When used as Drive Coils, the Current would be DC and the inner part of the Coil would become North Pole to provide the Force of Repulsion when the magnet just passed its position. The Current was then immediately switched off so that the rotor would be free to rotate until the next rotor magnet just passed the Proximity Switch again. The Process was again repeated. It was a kind of Pulsed Rotation.

The Collectors simply changed the magnetic flux into electricity in the normal way. Their combined output was used to light 15 watts lamps. One to three lamps were used in the demonstration setup.

With the particular demonstration, the larger the wheel, the better would be the result. This was because the simple Proximity Switch required time to turn on and off. A larger wheel also brought-in more gravitational energy. The Tong wheel also brought-in electromagnetic energy using similar mathematics.


If you want, I can setup another thread to discuss the detailed mathematics on how much gravitational energy and/or electromagnetic energy can be brought-in.

The mathematics is under what I called Divine Revelation 2 – bringing-in gravitational energy. Amen

Hi Lawrence

I have not been able to picture in your hands found unbalanced of permanent magnets arranged in the layout structure, my observation is completely symmetrical arrangement of balanced structure, please explain.

I originally intended to start a new thread devoted to this topic. because I feel you "Lead-Out Theory" and "Tong Wheel" is not only controversial, but is promising! as you suggested, sure you start this New thread is more appropriate, and I very much hope you can also start a new thread devoted to this topic.

Thank you forever

[ltseung888]

The Tong Wheel - unbalanced repulsion force?

Hi Lawrence

I have not been able to picture in your hands found unbalanced of permanent magnets arranged in the layout structure, my observation is completely symmetrical arrangement of balanced structure, please explain.

I originally intended to start a new thread devoted to this topic. because I feel you "Lead-Out Theory" and "Tong Wheel" is not only controversial, but is promising! as you suggested, sure you start this New thread is more appropriate, and I very much hope you can also start a new thread devoted to this topic.

Thank you forever

By unbalanced in the Tong Wheel sense, we mean the following:

1. The rotor is actually perfectly balanced.
2. The unbalancing comes from different matching of the Drive Coils to the permanent magnets. The number of Drive Coils may vary from 1 to 15.
3. The demonstration Tong wheel used eight Drive Coils and five to seven Collector Coils. Some coils can be “idle”.

The mechanical construction of the Tong Wheel needs good Machine Tools and skilled Technicians. Initially, I used students who never did any real mechanical work. That did not work. Mr. Tong then came to the rescue.

The size of the wheel is also an issue. I believe some others solved the issue with a better mechanism than the Proximity Switch and putting two or more wheels on same axle.

Good luck with your experiments.

[ltseung888]

Multiple LCR circuit experiments?

If multiple tuning forks at sympathetic vibrations can bring-in kinetic energy of air molecules, can Multiple LCR circuits bring-in electron motion energy of the orbiting electrons?

[boguslaw]

YES,I think that is concept of TPU but with missing details and one important thing ; feedback output to input.

[dutchguy]

I "resonate" with your thoughts

Dear mr. Tseung, hello Lawrence,

(my english is not very good, it is not my mother language)
I live in Holland (the netherlands)

I was very happy to read your posts on this forum.
The last 2 years I studied this subject extensively.

I really believe resonance is the way to go, why?

- when I was young I built a lot of subwoofer enclosures. I used bassreflex ports. I always wondered how come that at the resonancefrequency of the enclosure and tuned basspipe the speaker stopped moving, but the bassound was very high!
- break a glas, only with the sound of your voice!
- It does not matter how many radioreceivers are receiving a radiosignal from a transmitter, no extra power is needed from the transmitter when using a lot of receivers.

tuned high Q LC tanks is the way to go.

I like your theorie of converting natural random movement of elektrons in useable work. Resonance is the convertion proces.

Keep us enlighted with your thoughts.
Share knowledge and we can set us free. Restore balance on this earth.

Erwin

[boguslaw]

Dear mr. Tseung, hello Lawrence,

(my english is not very good, it is not my mother language)
I live in Holland (the netherlands)

I was very happy to read your posts on this forum.
The last 2 years I studied this subject extensively.

I really believe resonance is the way to go, why?

- when I was young I built a lot of subwoofer enclosures. I used bassreflex ports. I always wondered how come that at the resonancefrequency of the enclosure and tuned basspipe the speaker stopped moving, but the bassound was very high!
- break a glas, only with the sound of your voice!
- It does not matter how many radioreceivers are receiving a radiosignal from a transmitter, no extra power is needed from the transmitter when using a lot of receivers.

tuned high Q LC tanks is the way to go.

I like your theorie of converting natural random movement of elektrons in useable work. Resonance is the convertion proces.

Keep us enlighted with your thoughts.
Share knowledge and we can set us free. Restore balance on this earth.

Erwin

Yes,all this is possible if we eliminate Newton third law ; action vs reaction.
Resonance itself will not help with balanced devices.

[yx630514]

Hi Lawrence:
Thank you very much nagging to me in a detailed explanation.
Can you explain: "The unbalancing comes from different matching of the Drive Coils to the permanent magnets." more details? And the specific implementation methods?
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Thank
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I have a new thread dedicated to exploring the establishment of "Tong wheel".

[dutchguy]

Yes,all this is possible if we eliminate Newton third law ; action vs reaction.
Resonance itself will not help with balanced devices.

Boguslaw: could you explain why resonance does not help in balanced system? please define a balanced system

Could you explain why a parallel LC circuit with high Q will show high resistance to the source on the resonancefrequency, but still there is a lot of alternating current flowing between C and L? Where does this current coming from?

[ltseung888]

Tuning the Tong Wheel

Hi Lawrence:
Thank you very much nagging to me in a detailed explanation.
Can you explain: "The unbalancing comes from different matching of the Drive Coils to the permanent magnets." more details? And the specific implementation methods?
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Thank
-----
I have a new thread dedicated to exploring the establishment of "Tong wheel".

If we use only 1 Drive Coil, every time a permanent magnet passes across the Proximity Switch, current will be passed to that single Drive Coil. There will be a repulsion force (say X units) between that Drive Coil and ONE magnet.

If we use only 2 Drive Coils, every time a permanent magnet passes across the Proximity Switch, current will be passed to TWO Drive Coils. There will be a repulsion force (say 2X units) between those two Drive Coils and two magnets.

If we use only 3 Drive Coils, every time a permanent magnet passes across the Proximity Switch, current will be passed to THREE Drive Coils. There will be a repulsion force (say 3X units) between those three Drive Coils and three magnets.

From experiment, we found that bunching the Drive Coils together seemed to have a better effect than spacing them out equally around the wheel. Theoretically, there should be no difference. (Or we have not discovered the true reason yet.) I call this an unbalanced repulsion as it is concentrated on one section of the Wheel.

You may want to watch this 225 HP Pulse motor video on youtube:
YouTube - The 225 HP Pulse Motor

This prototype is provided by Mr. Andrew Wong of Hong Kong. The solenoids are used to provide the pulse force. One of these prototypes is scheduled for Tsing Hua University for testing in 2006.

*** That prototype was never sent because of politics. That prototype was developed in USA and funded by Mr. Wong. The inventor did not have the Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in Energy to guide him at that time. He could not explain the source of energy. Lee Cheung Kin and Lawrence Tseung explained the theory to them in 2006 at Tsing Hua University. Later, it was found that Mr. Wong and team did not have the proper “security clearance”. ***

That 225 HP Pulse Motor essentially had 9 “Tong wheels” on the same axle and used a different Pulse Control Mechanism. It also used a higher voltage to start and to maintain the rotation.

All information on the 225 HP Pulse Motor was stopped because of Politics. My personal belief is that both the US and the Chinese Governments learned the theory and the construction of the 225 Pulse Motor.

If we could demonstrate overunity with Mr. Tong and a few thousand Hong Kong dollars budget, the US and Chinese Government Teams will be able to do much more.

Good luck with you replication of the Tong Wheel.

[ltseung888]

The discussion thread for Devine Revelation 2 - bringing in gravitational or magnetic energy is ready.

Discussion on bringing-in gravitational or magnetic field energy

Have fun.

[boguslaw]

Boguslaw: could you explain why resonance does not help in balanced system? please define a balanced system

Could you explain why a parallel LC circuit with high Q will show high resistance to the source on the resonancefrequency, but still there is a lot of alternating current flowing between C and L? Where does this current coming from?

I wish I could , but I still don't understand it. I know just pieces of the whole picture and I tell you everything we know about that is just that less important part. I could imagine that at resonance the inflow of energy is in phase with electric side of energy in circuit and source "sees" fully charged capacitance as a break in circuit. With balanced circuit I mean a circuit symmetrical which is acting against any change like ordinary transformer for example.
Resonance in balanced circuit can only give the pure 100% energy transfer but no more and no way to close loop. The more you push energy into it the stronger is opposite reaction (like creating opposite magnetic field which is against the original change in flux).
You will find that. Even something so ordinary like a car is example. Where is the asymmetry in car ? Can you tell me ?