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  • #31
    Using someone else apparatus???

    Originally posted by rave154 View Post
    All of these Granduose statements & claims....and yet....after all this.....years of it....all he can do.......is light LED's using someone elses JT circuit.
    The most powerful and convincing experiment is actually the 4 or more tuning forks on resonance experiment.

    The tuning forks have been available many centuries ago. Am I the first one to receive the Divine Revelation??? Am I the first one to realize that kinetic energy of gas molecules can be brought-in??? Using someone's tuning fork is not a disgrace!

    The swing has been around even before the dawn of civilization. Is LEE Cheung Kin the first one to realize that gravitational energy can be brought-in via the pulse-pushed pendulum??? Pulse-pushing a swing built by someone else is acceptable!

    Apples or other things fall from trees before civilization. It took Newton to realize its significance and opened the door of modern science.

    May be God intends for Tseung to write thousands of posts before the eyes of the scientists are open. Tseung is just an instrument. The Miracle Worker showing the Revelations is the Almighty. Amen.

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    • #32
      Lol

      Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
      The most powerful and convincing experiment is actually the 4 or more tuning forks on resonance experiment.

      The tuning forks have been available many centuries ago. Am I the first one to receive the Divine Revelation??? Am I the first one to realize that kinetic energy of gas molecules can be brought-in??? Using someone's tuning fork is not a disgrace!

      The swing has been around even before the dawn of civilization. Is LEE Cheung Kin the first one to realize that gravitational energy can be brought-in via the pulse-pushed pendulum??? Pulse-pushing a swing built by someone else is acceptable!

      Apples or other things fall from trees before civilization. It took Newton to realize its significance and opened the door of modern science.

      May be God intends for Tseung to write thousands of posts before the eyes of the scientists are open. Tseung is just an instrument. The Miracle Worker showing the Revelations is the Almighty. Amen.
      Congratulations! You are quite insane.

      Your rantings are more aptly suited to a religious guru wanna-be. For your reference, these 'people' do not end well. This site attempts to deal with scientific fact so if you haven't got any of that, then head over to somewhere worthless like Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum or phone in your pontificating madness to Coast to Coast FM.

      I wish you well in your Moammar Gadhafi type lunacy.

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      • #33
        Comments from Angels???

        Comments from various Professionals

        Dentist (D)
        Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering (EE)
        Physics Professor (PP)
        Psychologist (P)
        Investment Banker (IB)
        Lawrence Tseung (LT)

        LT: “You have now seen my presentation. I look forward to your comments.”

        PP: “You are clever. You know that I would raise the question of violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy. You defused it early. Your 4 tuning fork resonance experiment is difficult to debunk. It can be done anywhere at any University. I shall wait for the actual results and videos before further comments.”

        IB: “Do you mean LT may be right? Can he really use energy from air, from gravity and from electron motion? If so, the financial returns might be worth some seed money. Is this the right time to invest yet?”

        D: “I have a few dollars I can put in. I lost some money in the stock market and in real estate. LT is my patient. He dare not cheat me.”

        LT: “I am not looking for investors. I just want to pump out the information so that the World will benefit.”

        EE: “You have redefined the textbooks. You are saying that electron motion energy can be brought-in via some type of resonance or pseudo resonance. The many claimed overunity devices on the Internet are not hoaxes. You are claiming that they are OPEN Systems in non-equilibrium thermodynamics. That topic is not covered in our formal electrical engineering training.”

        P: “Many people on the Internet said that you are crazy. I do not know enough technically to judge whether the technology is correct. But you do exhibit the trends of a zealot or religious devotee. (I could have used the phrase – religious lunatic but I am kind.) You charged ahead even though you might be stoned or fed to the lions.”

        D: “I like people with conviction. The presentation is brilliant. The image of resonating tuning forks is still ringing in my head. Investing and losing a few dollars is not a problem for me. I need some tax credits in any case. LT, are you sure that you do not need any investment or seed money?”

        LT: “I am too old to start a Company. I have a nice place to stay, food on the table, two computers, plenty of friends who are willing to listen to my long lectures and invitations to various Inventor Shows, Universities and start up Energy Companies. There is no need for extra money and extra responsibility.”

        IB: “I like that. Do you mind if I get people to start a Company and invite you as a Consultant?”

        PP and EE: “In that case, count us in. We love to get paid to invest in something interesting. The extra consulting fee will enrich our vacations. Let LT take the insults, stones and the lions. We just sit back and play with the oscilloscopes.”

        God sends different angels. His Miracles will not be overlooked. Amen.

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        • #34
          Educational LCR resonance demo by Armagdn03

          Simple LCR resonance demonstration

          The thread started by rave154 is of great interest in our resonance study.

          YouTube - Energy Propagation

          The creator of that video, Armagdn03, also commented on that thread.

          In Divine Revelation 1, we know that the tuning forks at resonance can bring-in the kinetic energy of air molecules. The random order is changed into pulsing order. The random energy is brought-in to do useful work – sympathetic vibrating other tuning forks.

          In Divine Revelation 2, pulse-pushing the pendulum can bring-in gravitational energy. The pulse-pushing frequency must be equal to that of the pendulum.

          In Divine Revelation 3, the magnetic pendulum can bring-in electron motion energy. The general LCR resonance circuit produces oscillations. The video shows matching resonating set ups. If Armagdn03 understood Divine Revelations 1, 2 and 3 at that time, he would have concluded that electron motion was brought-in in his demonstration. At resonance, external energy comes into the OPEN system at non-equilibrium thermodynamics (Aaron’s terms). At resonance, the exciting forces change the random dipole order into a pulsed order. That pulsed order brings-in the electron motion of the surrounding electrons. (Tseung’s terms).

          It is not too late. Armagdn03 or the replicators can still do oscilloscope Input Power Measurements and compare that with Output Power Measurements. Even if the voltage and current are out of phase, meaningful measurements and deductions can be made. The scope shots will be very helpful.

          @rave154, thanks for starting that thread. Try to study and understand the three Divine Revelations. You will find that you can indeed bring-in electron motion energy with resonance circuits. The Armagdn03 technique is an alternative to the Joule Thief or Joule Ringer Circuits.

          God shows his Miracle to us in more than one way. Amen

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          • #35
            divine revelations

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            • #36
              I enjoy this thread ...
              Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
              http://blog.hexaheart.org

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              • #37
                Imagine what may be happening at the Enemy Camp

                What might be happening in the Enemy Camp?

                Boss: “I paid you to discredit all overunity researchers. How come they are getting stronger?”

                Debunker1: “It is difficult to debunk the simple tuning fork. The sound is louder and lasts longer.”

                Boss: “Who cares? Just tell them it is a measurement error. Sound Energy cannot be measured accurately. Tell them not to believe their ears.”

                Debunker2: “I tried but the sound did last much longer.”

                Boss: “Tell them it is nonsense to have energy coming into the system. Tseung is a mad man. Attack his credibility. Attack his FLEET prototypes. His handiwork is terrible. His prototypes all fell apart in shipping.”

                Debunker1: “We have Polynt99 and team proving his prototype had COP < 1. But there was a PhysicsProf showing slight changes could affect the result. Tseung attributed that to resonance. Resoldering a joint changed the resonance condition.”

                Debunker2: “There are other LCR circuits showing COP>1 effects. The Joule Ringer, the Kananadze and the Armagdn03 resonance circuits are examples. We cannot murder them like Stan Meyer.”

                Boss: “Try the super troll technique of pretending to help and then do character smearing. Tseung is an easy target as he quotes religion all the time.”

                Debunger1: “Can we feed him to the lions? His physics and mathematics are rock solid. We successfully destroyed his two threads at overunity.com. But he built up a large number of followers.”

                It is impossible to debunk the truth. The tuning forks do not lie. Amen.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                  Simple LCR resonance demonstration

                  The thread started by rave154 is of great interest in our resonance study.

                  YouTube - Energy Propagation

                  The creator of that video, Armagdn03, also commented on that thread.
                  Very interesting video.
                  Does anyone have an explanation for how the light in the lower circuit can light up when the upper light shows "no light" ?

                  One would like to see oscilloscope waveforms for the two circuits.
                  My guess is that the current is still flowing in the upper coil -- but with the wrong conditions to light up the incandescent light bulb there.

                  Does anyone think this is an "overunity" device? (If so, why?)

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                  • #39
                    Muon,

                    i will try to replicate, once i get two suitable coils

                    and put the scope on it etc etc

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                      Muon,

                      i will try to replicate, once i get two suitable coils

                      and put the scope on it etc etc
                      Great! thanks rave154.

                      I think this is a fun demonstration, in any case, so I'm also planning to replicate. I'm looking for two air-solenoid coils that I think I'll by from a commercial source in this case, to get uniformity. I have plenty of caps I can use. I also plan to try other lights other than incandescents, such as LED's.
                      I think we can learn a lot from a pair of coupled LC circuits!

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                      • #41
                        Testing the Armagdn03 resonance circuit

                        Testing of the Armagdn03 resonance circuit

                        The ideal testing should have two oscilloscopes. One for Input and one for Output.

                        One Oscilloscope should display the Input Voltage waveform, the Input Current waveform (voltage across the 1 ohm resistor) and the product of Channel 1 and Channel 2 (representing the Instantaneous Input Power). Since most DSOs have common ground for Channel 1 and Channel 2, the trigger timing will start at the same time.

                        The other Oscilloscope should display the Output Voltage waveform, the Output Current waveform (voltage across the 1 ohm resistor) and the product of Channel 1 and Channel 2 (representing the Instantaneous Output Power).

                        The comparison of the waveforms should yield much useful information.

                        In particular, the area under the Instantaneous Power Curves would yield the Energy. Some DSOs will provide this integration internally. Some will require an external mathematics function. In many cases, we can also use the mean power.

                        The attached diagram shows the exact connections. The chance of Output Power greater than Input Power at resonance is extremely high. The reason is because of the bringing-in of the electron motion energy.

                        Rave154 and Muon will replicate the circuit. Hopefully the attached diagram will help in their testing.
                        Attached Files
                        Last edited by ltseung888; 02-28-2011, 03:27 AM.

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                        • #42
                          Comments on the Armagdn03 resonance circuit

                          Comments on the Testing of the Armagdn03 resonance circuit

                          1. The Inductance Coil and the Capacitor used in the Primary and in the Secondary Circuit can be identical.

                          2. There can be some tuning with the soft Iron rod. Its position can vary and thus affect the resonance condition.

                          3. The Signal Generator can have different voltage output and different frequencies. It is a matter of matching that to that of the primary and secondary circuits.

                          4. The important theoretical concept is – electron motion energy can be brought-in at resonance. The exciting forces changed the random orientation of the dipoles to a pulsed order. The increased Output Power is NOT an experimental error. COP can be much greater than 1.

                          5. Armagdn03 can provide the oscilloscope shots easily as he already have the circuit. However, the circuit is relatively easy to replicate. Demonstrating overunity is no longer impossible.

                          6. Once the tuning fork experimental results, this armagdn03 results, FLEET, Joule Ringer and others results show COP >1, the development of Bring-in Energy devices will gain momentum. The academic world will respond (resonate) with their existing energy. The World energy crisis will be over.

                          God reveals his miracle via multiple inventions. Amen.

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                          • #43
                            Involving the academic world?

                            Dear Lawrence,

                            Yes, I saw that simple (resonance experiment posted in this thread) last week and plan a replication...

                            This thread will interest you, I think, as I defend certain points:

                            LTJT - poynt99 Tests #2

                            Best wishes,

                            PhysicsProf
                            PhysicsProf is a real, retired Physics Professor at a famous university. His involvement will greatly help the entire overunity research and help to change the mindset in the established academic world.

                            Now we have another qualified scientist working on resonance circuits with the necessary equipment. We shall all learn much from their efforts.

                            God sends angels. Amen

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                            • #44
                              Overunityresearch website vanished???

                              What happened to Overunityresearch.com?

                              I tried to get to Overunityresearch.com and it appeared that their website vanished. I still have my bench with a locked teaching thread there.

                              The most exciting activity they had was the Joule Thief testing by Poynt99 and PhysicsProf.

                              Hope that they can recover. This also serves as a warning to other Open Forums. When there is information threatening to the “Powers”, the entire website may be hacked.

                              As far as I am concerned, the lead-out or bring-in energy theory information will still survive. There are many backup copies in various places. Some are on CDs that are off-line.

                              The Miracles of God cannot be hidden by men or by the Devil. Amen

                              *** It looks like the overunityresearch.com is now back. To be on the safe side, I shall copy all the useful information into some safe place - Read only CDs.
                              Last edited by ltseung888; 03-01-2011, 03:19 PM. Reason: Overunityresearch.com came back

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                              • #45
                                Understanding resonance at the swimming pool?

                                Discussing Resonance at the swimming pool

                                I met Mr. T, a mechanical engineer at the swimming pool. We started talking about resonance.

                                Mr. T: “Your example of 4 or more tuning forks producing a louder and longer sound is upsetting. I believe in experimental results. This experiment is so simple. I wonder why other scientists have not done the same experiment and documented the results.”

                                Tseung: “Almost every Physics student has done the two tuning forks in sympathetic vibration experiment when they study sound or resonance. It is a matter of adding a few more tuning forks.”

                                Mr. T: “Your explanation that the extra sound energy comes from the kinetic energy of air molecules is new. The vibration changed the random order into a pulsing order. Such a process brings-in the kinetic energy of the air molecules into the system. I am sure that a computer simulation will prove you right.”

                                Tseung: “Thank you. Would you like to comment on the Aaron statement that such devices are OPEN systems in non-equilibrium thermodynamics?”

                                Mr. T: “I shall focus on OPEN systems. In an OPEN system, energy comes in and out of the device. There is the extra element of environmental energy. With this extra environmental energy coming in, there is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy. What borders me is that we have to re-examine and re-study the whole phenomenon of resonance.”

                                Tseung: “How about the theoretical correctness of the Lead-out or Bring-in Energy theory? How about the concept of the impossible perpetual motion machine? How about developing devices that can bring-in kinetic energy, gravitational energy or electromagnetic energy?”

                                Mr. T: “I need to go for another swim to clear up my head. This conversation may change the course of Human History.”

                                Do scientists really understand resonance? Amen.

                                Edit: The following article discusses sound resonance in the classic way. However, it does not comment on where the extra energy comes from!

                                Forced Vibration
                                Last edited by ltseung888; 03-03-2011, 01:44 AM. Reason: Adding new information

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