The Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in Energy theory

[ltseung888]

One step away?

Hi Itseung888 here it is:

YouTube - Self resonating powering circuit for HHO cell

Dear Guruji,

It will be very educational if we can put in oscilloscopes to capture the Input and Output waveforms. We can also measure the Input Power and Output Power at various points on the circuit. I expect the values will differ greatly at resonance compared with well away from resonance.

Do you have the setup capable of doing that?

You may be one step away from a great practical device.

[Guruji]

Self resonant

Dear Guruji,

It will be very educational if we can put in oscilloscopes to capture the Input and Output waveforms. We can also measure the Input Power and Output Power at various points on the circuit. I expect the values will differ greatly at resonance compared with well away from resonance.

Do you have the setup capable of doing that?

You may be one step away from a great practical device.

Hi Itseung888 sorry I don't have the setup for what you're asking and no oscilloscope. Today I was playing with this circuit again after left it for two years or more. But as Guru2you had told me that when one hooks a speaker instead of the cell a buzzing sound is heard. This is true cause I experienced it that it self oscillates.
Thanks

[ltseung888]

Self Resonating HHO circuit

Hi Itseung888 sorry I don't have the setup for what you're asking and no oscilloscope. Today I was playing with this circuit again after left it for two years or more. But as Guru2you had told me that when one hooks a speaker instead of the cell a buzzing sound is heard. This is true cause I experienced it that it self oscillates.
Thanks

Dear Guruji,

Sounds like you really have a resonating circuit. When you use the HHO cell, did you notice any gas bubbling up from the cell?

When you hook it to a speaker, can you tune to get a louder sound?

Lawrence

[student8195]

Understanding resonance

@ltseung888,

Can you explain why that a tuning fork on a resonance box produces a much louder sound than vibrating in air alone?

[Guruji]

Dear Guruji,

Sounds like you really have a resonating circuit. When you use the HHO cell, did you notice any gas bubbling up from the cell?

When you hook it to a speaker, can you tune to get a louder sound?

Lawrence

Hi Lawrence first of all this circuit belongs to Alexander Meissner as Guru2you says. Yes when I connect the HHO cell it used to produce bubbles. I am saying it used to produce bubbles cause I had taken of coil windings to experiment but note frequency went down and bubbles stopped. So I have to go back were I was and continue from there. Guru2you had told me that he used to do this on high voltage but I'm using it on 12v bank.
When tuning the pot ; sound frequency varies even in intensity.
Thanks for your interest ; you should try this too.

[ltseung888]

Resonance box

@ltseung888,

Can you explain why that a tuning fork on a resonance box produces a much louder sound than vibrating in air alone?

In the real world, many things can vibrate. An air column, a wooden surface, a pipe and a resonance box can vibrate. In the particular case of a resonance box to be used with a tuning fork at a particular frequency, the length of the box can be made a multiple or sub-multiple of the wave length. (Usually 1/4).

In my understanding, a louder sound means more molecules have taken part in the pulsing order. The resonance box has a much larger surface area than the tuning fork and will “excite” more molecules. The box shape also allow more “bouncing” that focuses the pulsing order towards the open end of the resonance box.

In almost all musical instruments such as the guitar with a resonance chamber, the chamber is not rectangular but curved. The curved shape allows many notes to achieve resonance at some section inside the chamber.

Some resonance guitars sound much louder. Google resonance guitars for more details.

*** You actually brought out one important point --- some objects help to produce a louder sound for a range of frequencies. This is true in the case of musical instruments. This may also be true for electrical circuits. Some circuits such as the Joule Thief or the Joule Ringer allow “magnification” for a range of values.

[ltseung888]

Hunting for a narrow/wide sweet spot?

In almost all musical instruments such as the guitar with a resonance chamber, the chamber is not rectangular but curved. The curved shape allows many notes to achieve resonance at some section inside the chamber.

Some resonance guitars sound much louder. Google resonance guitars for more details.

*** You actually brought out one important point --- some objects help to produce a louder sound for a range of frequencies. This is true in the case of musical instruments. This may also be true for electrical circuits. Some circuits such as the Joule Thief or the Joule Ringer allow “magnification” for a range of values.

Some circuits can resonate with a wide range of frequencies. This single statement is worth much research. Do we need to hunt for a very sharp narrow sweet spot at all times? Or can we hunt for a wider sweet spot?

The Rosie circuit has now been demonstrated successfully in South Africa. Is it an OPEN system bringing-in electron motion energy at resonance or pseudo resonance?

God performed the Miracle as in the Bible. Water turned to wine. We can now all enjoy this wine. Knowledge will not diminish with sharing. Divine Revelation is to benefit all. Amen.

[ltseung888]

Miracle from the Almighty?

Miracle from the Almighty?

I was calculating how much it would take to set up two oscilloscopes, a signal generator, a DC power supply, some resistors, capacitors, inductors, ferrite rings, rods, tuning forks and miscellaneous items to do the experiments in USA.

The minimum estimate using equipment and parts from China is around US$1,000. I was praying on how to get the money. The prayer was answered today.

The Hong Kong Government is giving HK$6,000 to every Hong Kong Citizen with a valid Hong Kong Identity Card – including those outside Hong Kong. That amounts to around US$770. My own out-of-pocket expense will only be US$230. That US$230 has already been donated by a US supporter. Should I set up a “garage laboratory” in USA?

Is this another Miracle or Guidance from the Almighty? Amen

[ltseung888]

Reply to Ominbus at OU

From reply 19 of
Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011

No, not clear at all what that is. Never mind universities. It isn't clear how resonance causes OU. Would be interesting how you derive that based on Newton's mechanics. I know Newton's mechanics is incomplete and when properly understood may yield unexpected results but in this case it isn't at all clear that it does what you claims it does.

In summary, I performed the following:
1. Assume a molecule as a ball moving in the +X direction. It collides elastically with a moving piston in the –X direction. After the collision, the molecule moves in the –X direction. (In other words, it collides with an approaching piston.) Such a collision can be treated in the classical Newtonian Mechanics as a simple collision. The Law of Conservation of Momentum and the Law of Conservation of Energy must be obeyed. With the assumptions specified in the spreadsheet, the molecule with initial velocity 1000 units will bounce back with a velocity of 1200 units.

2. Use a similar case of the ball moving in the +X direction. It collides elastically with a moving piston in the +X direction. After the collision the molecule moves in the –X direction. (In other words, it collides with a receding piston.) Such a collision can be treated in the classical Newtonian Mechanics as a simple collision. The Law of Conservation of Momentum and the Law of Conservation of Energy must be obeyed. With the assumptions specified in the spreadsheet, the molecule with initial velocity 1000 units will bounce back with a velocity of 800 units.

3. These two vigorous Newtonian Mechanics results demonstrate clearly that a vibrating tuning fork acts like a piston. In its vibration to the LHS, it imparts energy to the colliding molecules. These molecules will then travel with higher velocity and momentum. In its vibration to the RHS, it absorbs energy from the colliding molecules. These molecules will then travel with lower velocity and momentum. A pulse ordered movement of molecules is created. This pulse ordered movement can do work such as exciting other tuning forks.

4. The energy used to do work comes mainly from the kinetic energy of the molecules. The piston imparts energy to molecules colliding on one side and receives energy from molecules colliding on the other side. If the molecular velocity is zero, all energy in the ordered motion must come entirely from the vibrating piston. When the molecular velocity is non-zero, the energy in the ordered motion will come more from the molecules. The higher the molecular velocity, the higher will be the contribution.

5. The above is the inevitable scientific result from Newtonian Mechanics. No professor in Physics dare to say that it is wrong. If it is not wrong, then the statement that – the tuning fork system is an OPEN system bringing-in kinetic energy of air molecules to do work at resonance – MUST be correct.

Hopefully, you can now see the beauty of fighting Newtonian Mechanics with Newtonian Mechanics. I regard this as Divine Revelation. The phenomenon and the underlying Physics are available over 300 years. Thousands if not millions of Physics students have done or seen the two tuning fork experiment and heard the louder and longer sound.

Why would it wait for this old Lawrence Tseung to point it out in a Public Forum? The discovery is not from the brains of Lawrence Tseung. Lawrence Tseung is just an instrument in posting this Divine Revelation.

God provides the Divine Revelations. Men need to read and study to understand them. Amen.

[ltseung888]

Feedback from China

The first feedback:

Use of two tuning forks is sufficient to show that the resulting sound is louder and last longer. That experiment is a standard in all Physics courses. There is no need to use 3...n tuning forks. That just adds to the uncertainty.

My reply:

Thank you. There were some comments that the louder and longer sound was from a more efficient use of the striking energy on the first tuning fork. I wanted to show that the sound keeps on increasing in intensity and duration with more tuning forks. Such a phenomenon cannot be attributed to increase in efficiency. But you are right. Keep it simple. Stick to a well known experiment.

[ltseung888]

Picture worth a thousand words?

Explaining the two ball collision with the Piston pictorially

I was trying to explain the collision calculations to some engineers. They said that they could following every line in the spreadsheets but did not get the full picture. Here is the overview picture.

1. Percentage change in magnitude of velocity of Ball B1
= 20% (1000 increased to 1200)
2. Percentage change in magnitude of velocity of Ball B2
= 20% (1000 decreased to 800)
3. Percentage change in magnitude of velocity of Piston
= 0.0202% (100-99.9798)

Viewing from the outside, Ball B1 travels at 1200 in the –X direction after collision.
Ball B2 travels at 800 in the +X direction after collision. The velocity of the Piston is hardly affected (0.0202%).

When the piston is moving in the –X direction, the balls on the LHS will bounce back with higher speed. The balls on the RHS will bounce back will lower speed. That is the pulsing order we look for.

The Divine Revelation is now interpreted by Humans – similar to the Bible interpreted by the Priests. Amen.

[ltseung888]

Outcome of the Japanese Nuclear Reactor Disaster

The Japanese Nuclear Reactor Disaster

The World and the General Public will now withdraw their support for more nuclear power stations. Almost all proposals for nuclear power plants will be shelved. What does that mean?

It is inevitable that the alternative energy option will be re-examined.

The three Divine Revelations will undoubtedly shine.
1. Kinetic Energy of air molecules can be brought-in at tuning fork resonance.
2. Gravitational Energy can be brought-in via the pulse-pushed pendulum
3. Electron Motion Energy can be brought-in via LCR resonance circuits.

More will turn to God when the Engineering of Men failed. The Divine Revelations are here for all to witness. Amen.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi ltseung888, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I am curious about the pulse pushed pendulum, have you built one and tested it to see if it can lead out gravitational energy. I know Bedini has a couple pulsed pendulums ive seen, do you know if he's getting an excess output or anyone else that built one.
I ask because with all these gravity devices being shown and the huge one shown in the donation thread that makes full rotations, i really would like to build one of these simple pendulum types.

I think we could place air-core coils to convert the gravitational energy and if the kinetic energy exceeds what our drive coil inputs, it should be able to self run, i would think. Any reply appreciated, thanks.
peace love light
Tyson

[ltseung888]

Comment from Chinese Scientists

Can you show the pictorial representation of the collision in Chinese?

See attached. The English and Chinese slides are shown for comparison.

Divine Revelation 1 cannot be wrong. Newtonian Mechanics cannot be wrong in this case. Kinetic Energy of air molecules can be brought-in.

[ltseung888]

Pulse-push pendulum question

Hi ltseung888, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I am curious about the pulse pushed pendulum, have you built one and tested it to see if it can lead out gravitational energy. I know Bedini has a couple pulsed pendulums ive seen, do you know if he's getting an excess output or anyone else that built one.
I ask because with all these gravity devices being shown and the huge one shown in the donation thread that makes full rotations, i really would like to build one of these simple pendulum types.

I think we could place air-core coils to convert the gravitational energy and if the kinetic energy exceeds what our drive coil inputs, it should be able to self run, i would think. Any reply appreciated, thanks.
peace love light
Tyson

Dear SkyWatcher,

I believe you might have read and understood the posts related to the theory behind the pulse-pushed pendulum (reply 3-10) at:
Lead-out/Bring-in Energy - The locked teaching thread

Once I understood the theory, I went for the more efficient prototypes. The more efficient prototypes involve the following:

1. Change the oscillation into pulsed rotation.
2. Add the Magnetic Field that is much stronger than the gravitational field via coils and magnets.
3. The result was the Tong Wheel demonstrated at the Inno Tech Design Expo 2009 in Hong Kong. That achieved overunity.

4. When Rasa requested a small prototype that he could carry around in his suitcase, we started to work on FLEET – using flux changes instead of pulsed rotation. That was successful and demonstrated at the Inno Tech Design Expo 2010.

5. Now, I am visiting my daughter in USA. I have no access to the oscilloscopes and other equipment. My focus turned to the theoretical side. God revealed that the simple tuning fork can bring-in the kinetic energy of air molecules. I was blessed to be able to finish the simple computer model.

My thoughts at the moment are:

a. There is much work being done on the Milkovic two stage pendulum with electromagnetic pulsing. That has inherent inefficiency due to oscillation.
b. Rosemary and team have shown that their resonant circuit can achieve OU. The tuning fork resonance theory clearly proved that external energy can be brought-in via suitable vibration at resonance. PhysicsProf is doing a great job with the Joule Thief. Lasersaber has shown us the Joule Ringer. The Kanapadz device is showing great promise and has been replicated.
c. The focus and the best bet should be on various LCR resonance circuits. That should lead to the Steven Mark TPU or the Stan Meyer HHO device in a short time.