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    Guys this part of a restructure, repair and new video productions coming to your non profit org's website, you wont recognize it soon. A lot of work to be re done.

    Input welcomed (suggestions corrections, input etc)
    summary of commercial devices

    You will notice our theme as always is the non profit support to the open source community.

    Ash
    Last edited by ashtweth; 02-17-2011, 06:56 AM.

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    from what ive seen, my own list of commercial & non-commercial FE devices is listed below.


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    • #3
      Originally posted by rave154 View Post
      from what ive seen, my own list of commercial & non-commercial FE devices is listed below.


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      Ditto

      Bit its been good fun, and im sure one is on the way soon I'll be pleased to get an earth/air battery lighting a CFL.....thats good enough for me. Gimme 6 months.

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      • #4
        Guys it was no where near complete, have made it almost so now REFRESH
        summary of commercial devices

        Making a video this year, all pages will be transformed with new vids this year going to be a busy one.


        Ash

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        • #5
          Open System in non-equilibrium thermodynamics?

          Dear Ashtweth,

          Thank you for a great summary. I believe you are on the right track in saying that many devices discussed are OPEN systems. Energy can flow in and out of such systems. In particular, there is user supplied Input Energy; there is bring-in energy from the environment. The total Input energy is actually the sum of these two energies. If there were no loss, the Output Energy should be equal to this sum. Thus COP > 1 is theoretically possible and does not violate any Laws of Thermodynamics.

          The blind spot for scientists and inventors is – what is this bring-in energy and exactly how it is brought into the system?

          You can read my thread in this forum – Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in Energy theory. I shall summarize the key points in a few sentences.

          Revelation 1 – When one tuning fork is struck, it will change the random order of the kinetic motion of air molecules into a pulsed order. This pulsed order motion will excite other identical tuning forks. The resulting sound will be louder and last longer. The additional energy comes from the existing kinetic energy of the air molecules. Resonance condition is required.

          Revelation 2 – When we pulse-push a pendulum, gravitational energy will be brought-in. So long as there is tension in the string, gravitational energy will be brought-in. If we look at the swing, the pulse-push frequency must match the resonance frequency.

          Revelation 3 – If we can extract energy from gravitational field from a normal pendulum, we mush be able to extract or bring-in energy from magnetic field via a pulse-pushed magnetic pendulum. The magnetic field is even better because we can vary the strength and direction of the magnetic field. We can even turn that on and off. If we apply the same thinking in revelation 1 and 2 here, we may be able to change the random order of the dipoles (an orbiting electron can be thought of as a tiny magnet – dipole). The resulting pulse order will bring-in the electron motion energy of the electrons.

          Revelation 1, 2, 3 are the keys to understanding almost all the claimed overunity devices you mentioned. There is no need to introduce unfamiliar concepts such as zero point energy.

          Read the details in: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...gy-theory.html

          It is a Miracle that a single theory can explain the workings of all claimed overunity devices. Amen.

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          • #6
            If there are so many free-energy devices, why is it that the Overunity prize remains unclaimed?

            Are any of these devices described in such a way that anyone can do a replication?

            I hope something works in a rigorous sense and can be built by people around the world freely -- that would be "free energy"!

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            • #7
              Hi Lawrence, Muon and ALL

              Thanks for your feedback and input Lawrence. Muon yes its there for the taking but i think that prize is for OPEN SOURCE ones not commercial devices.

              Ash

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                Hi Lawrence, Muon and ALL

                Thanks for your feedback and input Lawrence. Muon yes its there for the taking but i think that prize is for OPEN SOURCE ones not commercial devices.

                “If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that’s what they’re afraid of.” –– Michael Reynolds


                Ash
                Dear Ash,

                “Create your own politics”. This is a far sighted statement. It reminded me of an old story from China. China discovered the primitive gun powder long ago. The Emperors (the powers at that time) forbid the citizens to develop the technology except for fire crackers. They were afraid that such technology would neutralize their thousands of troops. But the West finally discovered and improved it. The result was a few hundreds years of neocolonialism, catastrophic defeats and untold sufferings for the Chinese.

                Technology cannot be suppressed for long – especially the proof-of-concept experiments are so simple. Having 4 or more identical tuning forks in resonance will produce a louder and longer sound. That can be done anywhere. The Divine Revelation 1 is the simple question – where does the extra energy come from?

                Once we accept that the tuning fork system is an OPEN system where energy can flow in and out, the answer is obvious. The vibration changes the random motion of the air molecules into a pulsing order. This pulsing order allows the random kinetic energy to do useful work. The energy is from the existing kinetic energy of the air molecules. A computer simulation program can easily verify that.

                This new understanding of resonance (Divine Revelation 1) points us to the path of examining resonance in all systems. Electrical (LCR) resonance is an obvious example. Once we accept that the dipoles can be made to oscillate, the random order can be changed into a pulsing order. The vast quantity of electron motion energy can be brought-in.

                I personally believe that the USA, China, Japan, Russia and other Government laboratories have already mastered the Lead-out or Bring-in Energy technology. They are keeping it quiet because they are afraid of the new politics.

                With God guiding our progress, there is nothing to fear. Amen.
                Last edited by ltseung888; 03-03-2011, 01:38 PM.

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                • #9
                  I don't understand the term "commercial" cause not a single fe device is for sale.

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                  • #10
                    Commercial devices - many are funded already

                    Originally posted by bugler View Post
                    I don't understand the term "commercial" cause not a single fe device is for sale.
                    Many inventors are not willing to put their inventions in OPEN SOURCE and in the Public Domain. They want to get patents, investments and profits. At the same time, they would like to have some publicity.

                    I already know that some inventions have been funded and the investors would like all information confidential. One of them is FLEET (Forever Lead-out Electromagnetic Energy Transformer).

                    I believe Ash should do the following with his planned new commercial devices video:

                    1. Start with the 4 or more tuning fork experiment. Emphasize that it is an OPEN system that allows kinetic energy of the air molecules to freely interact (flow in and out). Such systems will not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy and any other Laws of Physics. In fact a computer simulation of random motions of the air molecules changing into pulsed order capable of doing work will be very convincing.

                    2. Show some proof-of-concept videos demonstrating that Output Power can be greater than user supplied Input Power. Some examples can be the Joule Thief, FLEET, Joule Ringer or the simple resonance experiment - YouTube - Energy Propagation

                    3. The proof-of-concept videos can be improved via contact with the inventors and doing actual oscilloscope measurements. The scientific results and explanations will give much credibility to the other “commercial devices”.

                    The average Human Being wants benefit to himself. He will hide certain key information. However, there are exceptions. Thanks to the Almighty. Amen.
                    Last edited by ltseung888; 03-03-2011, 05:12 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bugler View Post
                      I don't understand the term "commercial" cause not a single fe device is for sale.
                      Hi Bugler and ALL

                      Hidro is for sale, so is black light power and so is EBM as stated there. Email them with a sale inquiry and find out for your self

                      Ash

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                        Dear Ash,

                        “Create your own politics”. This is a far sighted statement. It reminded me of an old story from China. China discovered the primitive gun powder long ago. The Emperors (the powers at that time) forbid the citizens to develop the technology except for fire crackers. They were afraid that such technology would neutralize their thousands of troops. But the West finally discovered and improved it. The result was a few hundreds years of neocolonialism, catastrophic defeats and untold sufferings for the Chinese.

                        Technology cannot be suppressed for long – especially the proof-of-concept experiments are so simple. Having 4 or more identical tuning forks in resonance will produce a louder and longer sound. That can be done anywhere. The Divine Revelation 1 is the simple question – where does the extra energy come from?

                        Once we accept that the tuning fork system is an OPEN system where energy can flow in and out, the answer is obvious. The vibration changes the random motion of the air molecules into a pulsing order. This pulsing order allows the random kinetic energy to do useful work. The energy is from the existing kinetic energy of the air molecules. A computer simulation program can easily verify that.

                        This new understanding of resonance (Divine Revelation 1) points us to the path of examining resonance in all systems. Electrical (LCR) resonance is an obvious example. Once we accept that the dipoles can be made to oscillate, the random order can be changed into a pulsing order. The vast quantity of electron motion energy can be brought-in.

                        I personally believe that the USA, China, Japan, Russia and other Government laboratories have already mastered the Lead-out or Bring-in Energy technology. They are keeping it quiet because they are afraid of the new politics.

                        With God guiding our progress, there is nothing to fear. Amen.
                        Hi Lawrence/ALL

                        Yes we need to move forward BY LEARNING FROM THE PAST.
                        that quote is by this guy
                        Earth Ship

                        He has very practical self sufficient community designs.
                        They use solar and wind for now.

                        This year we are working heavily on STEP BY STEP FREE information to make self sufficient communities and to change over (for example urban aquaponics) to a more self sufficient lifestyle.

                        Open source , you can read this banner
                        http://www.panaceauniversity.org/header.jpg

                        The EarthShips are very underrated, they can benefit with HEMPCRETE and Hemp , speaking of which this year you will get a FREE open source way to do that also. Going be a very busy year my friend . We need a self sufficient SYSTEM with the free energy device, regional currency, alt medicine and the local food co ops, this info needs to be FREE.

                        Thanks for the suggestions with the commercial Vid, i am going to try and get Hidro (they are in my country) to do a display at GREENFEST (where we went on TV a years or so ago) to show the world FE. But if Panacea presented it they get to read about you brilliant guys here

                        Ash

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