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  • #16
    Yes, I want to point out that you can charge capacitors and dump to the battery with this system as seems that Watson was doing. But the main effect is the lag of current, which turns Lenz to an assistive force, instead of a resistive one.
    I hope you luck with air coils, but consider the fact that inductance of such coils is about a thousand times less, and it is very unlikely that you can see any acceleration effect with such coils, unless you "discover" another configuration.
    Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
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    • #17
      Elias and all,

      Go to this link:

      http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/ by hoptoad

      Tutorial on Adams type pulse motors. Page 4 discusses cores types and hoptoad's discovery of hollow sheaths of anchor bolts as really good core material.

      Page 11 talks about anomaly of acceleration of shorted coils.

      This is really good tutorial explaining all facets of what to expect with motor/ generators of this design. I suggest read it all from the beginning. Here is a person who has walked this path before.

      I don't know if he gets into the high speed necessary that Elias says is necessary. It has been a while since I read this. I am not active anymore, but thought this info might apply here in this thread.

      tishatang

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      • #18
        Originally posted by elias View Post
        Can you elaborate on that? I am not quite familiar about what Maxwell has to say about coils and magnetic fields.
        I certainly want to do that. Just no promises with time and results. I do have many things to do in my study time, that is one.

        And second is actually about the solution of task itself - I think I could start with creating a simplified model, using analytical expressions, but that would undoubtedly introduce some loss of precision. Other approach is to simulate a system with numerical methods. But I am not entirely sure, how to do that correctly.

        But nevertheless, I will try to find some time and will inform on my progress. And probably will ask some questions about setup, I am sure there will be some.
        Energy For Free For Everyone! EFFFE!

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        • #19
          Increasing Inductance.

          @Elias,

          To quadrupole your coil inductance all you need is a bifilar coil with each wind connected in series. The coil resistance will double compared to using one of it's winds but you will get 4 times the inductance. You should try this on your setup.

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          • #20
            Hi folks, Hi elias, thanks again for replying to my comments, i appreciate it.
            And I hope you are correct about it being an inductance time lag situation as that would tend to rule out the reducing drag idea out to some extent.

            It is possible Watson had some kind of lentz lag effect happening that neutralized or aided his motor/generator and that would explain why Bedini didn't show a capacitor disconnect switch from coils because it didn't load down the generator at all.
            I plan to setup a mechanical switching setup on my shaft to see what kind of charging i can get with this idea.
            peace love light
            Tyson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Zooty View Post
              @Elias,

              To quadrupole your coil inductance all you need is a bifilar coil with each wind connected in series. The coil resistance will double compared to using one of it's winds but you will get 4 times the inductance. You should try this on your setup.

              Yes, thanks, my coils are bi-filar series connected coils.

              Now, I have made some more new tests with this air core coil:


              At 2550 RPM, when the coil was shorted the RPM went down to 2460 RPM.

              At 6525 RPM, when the coil was shorted the RPM went down to 6480 RPM.

              It seems that higher the speed of the rotor becomes, the less it is affected by the coil. The magnets on muller's generator were moving at least twice as fast as the magnets on my small rotor.
              Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
              http://blog.hexaheart.org

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              • #22
                @All thank you for the contribution. Videos and more experimental results will be coming soon.
                Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                • #23
                  Elias,
                  may you wanna connect them in serie and try to switch the End from one Coil. Something about a core,
                  they store a Magnetic Field also, and maybe act slower then the Copper. Thats may a Core cause different Results.
                  H. Coler wrote something about Iron, that its Frequency is about 180 mhz, where it gets saturated.

                  I build a simple Rotor with 2 parallel Coils before a while, even not bifilar but layer over layer at opposite winding direction,
                  where one Coil is only at 3/4 lenght over the other and got a decrease of input under Load.
                  But even there i have to play around first, wich side i do connect to Plus, and wich side i connect parallel.
                  There is mostly only one optimal configuration.
                  And i hope i dont mess around, when i say, one direction of current has a certain spin.
                  A bifilar Coil mainly stores better Power at the Magnetic Field,
                  but its not the best choice for 'to work with the EMF', so called Lenz Forces.
                  That is, what i did figure out.
                  Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                  • #24
                    Some Pictures

                    Hello

                    Some Pictures:

                    Various Cores:


                    Bifilar Coil with Welding Rods:


                    Bifilar Coil with a ferrite core:


                    Muller/Watson Generator:


                    Elias
                    Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                    http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                    • #25
                      Test Results

                      Hello Again

                      My newest test results, with a ferrite core coil:

                      At 5580 RPM shorting the coil caused deceleration of the rotor to 5505 RPM.

                      At 6756 RPM shorting the coil caused deceleration of the rotor to about 6738
                      RPM. A very small drag.

                      These test results show that as the speed of rotation increases shorting the
                      coil has less effect on the rotor. It seems to me that if I double the speed
                      of the magnet, shorting will have no effect on the speed of the rotor and
                      might also cause acceleration, with the ferrite core.

                      Ferrite core hasn't got any considerable drag on the rotor whatsoever, it is
                      free from any hysteresis or eddy currents, But it requires higher frequency
                      operation of the motor generator.

                      Key to free energy, higher speed, higher inductance, least resistance on
                      the coil and the load. If we go with the coil shorting technique we can get all
                      the energy we want for the price we are paying to maintain the speed of the
                      rotor, without loading it down.


                      Elias
                      Last edited by elias; 02-26-2011, 08:04 PM.
                      Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                      http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                      • #26
                        generator

                        Hi Elias thanks for sharing. Did you try closing the loop?
                        Thanks

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Guruji View Post
                          Hi Elias thanks for sharing. Did you try closing the loop?
                          Thanks
                          Hi there, not yet, I know that it will work. I am sharing what I am doing to encourage people start building these devices. I am doing my best to convey how I think these devices work. Higher speed goodbye Lenz. No exotic design is necessary it is simple as it can be, alternating magnets on a rotor with some coils, preferably odd-even like Muller's design.
                          Last edited by elias; 02-26-2011, 08:26 PM.
                          Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                          http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                          • #28
                            Hey Elias i am realy interested in this design, do you think you could make a simple how to instruction guide to make one of these generators? thx

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                            • #29
                              This system is nothing new. What I really want to do is to unify the technologies
                              and integrate the segregation in the free energy field. There surely is more
                              effect to these simple devices. I am exploring mainly the acceleration effect
                              caused by shorting the coils with Iron cores.

                              In lower RPMS, Shorting the coils drags the system much more than loading the
                              coil, as you can see in conventional generators. But in this system when you
                              pass a certain speed, then shorting the coils drags the rotor less than
                              loading them, how is it so? When you speed up even more shorting the coil less
                              affects the rotor, and after a certain point it starts accelerating the rotor! It
                              even will accelerate if you load the coil with a small resistive load! The simple
                              theory I presented above is valid up to every test I have made and I have seen
                              others make.
                              Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                              http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by AlaskanWolfWarrior View Post
                                Hey Elias i am realy interested in this design, do you think you could make a simple how to instruction guide to make one of these generators? thx
                                First, I am exploring this effect, with my current design, the next step will be designing a working unit, from what we have learned. For reference see the new Muller generator design posted above.
                                Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                                http://blog.hexaheart.org

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