2011: the year free energy became obvious ...

[elias]

Hello Friends

I have been researching and studying free energy devices for more than four
years now, and I think that I have reached to a place, that I can make a
device that extracts energy from the magnet. It is so simple and it should
have been.

This thread is going to serve as a place where I want to share my ideas, and
appreciate ideas from other people to start building devices known to many
but not known to many their reason of operation.

So what am I talking about. I want to tell you how I think the Watson
Machine worked, how the Muller generator operated, and also how Mr Adams
managed to build a machine that was putting more out than in. I also think
that Ismael Aviso has used this technique or a method similar to achieve
those amazing results with his electric car. This seems to be how he charges
his capacitors.

Now lets get down to business. As you may know for a coil to discharge into
a load there is a time constant and a delay which is proportional to (L/R)
where L is the inductance of the coil and R is the resistance of the coil + the
resistance of the Load: RL circuit
- Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The small capacitor associated with a coil is also good and serves as a
stabilizer for the voltage. Now because of this time delay, if you move the
magnet past a coil with a reasonable inductance with a small resistance fast
enough you will get to see that the Lenz deceleration becomes Lenz
acceleration. Also one should understand that the speed of acceleration is a
range of operation and if you move the magnet too fast it will not work also.


You can see that Muller puts the coil in front of his large rotor without
noticing any deceleration: YouTube - Bill Muller Coiltest It might be due to his use
of his special core material which increased L considerably, without much
windings and increased the time delay, so the Lenz did not apply to his
system as it should have.



The watson machine was such a device that made the magnets move really
fast with its large rotor, and its large motor. He used to charge batteries
without Lenz law causing deceleration. His large flywheel also assisted this.
Notice the large rotor on the picture:



Don't you see any similarities?

Now this is the Adams motor layout which is too very similar to the two
machines above:



The author in this website:
http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/#top
mentions the fact that the rotor starts accelerating when the resistance becomes low enough.

Also Thane Heins has performed some coil shorting experiments with high
voltage coils (High Inductance) and has reported acceleration:
YouTube - PEREPITEIA GENERATOR
DEMO VIDEO - Parts 1 & 2




As it is evident these are all the same machine, and I don't think that
naming them more names, will help anymore. It is the simplest generator
machine one can imagine: alternating round magnets on a rotor and some
generator coils.

And this is what I have built:


This machine has four alternating polarity 4.5cm diameter magnets, and the
three coils are large enough to make the time constant big enough for an
anti-lenz operation. I have attached a simple DC motor as a prime mover to
make the rotor rotates at about 3000-4000 RPM.

I short the coils and they make the rotor resist rotating up to a certain
speed, which for my system happens to be around 1300 RPM, then it starts
accelerating when the coils are shorted. When it reaches around 4000 RPM,
it even accelerated when I used a 55 watt 12 volt lamp (low resistance)
attached to the output of my three coils. So this is the moment I was waiting
for, lighting a 55 watt lamp to about one fourth its brightness and
accelerating the rotor!! This means you do not need to obey Lenz if you want
to generate energy, you need to go fast enough so that Lenz doesn't see
you!

This design was a proof of concept for me, stay tuned I am going to post
more pictures and videos.

Now if you don't want to make your rotor turn so fast, or you don't want to
use high inductance coils, then the easiest way to extract energy from the
coils is shorting them and collecting the 1000V back-spike with a diode-bridge:
FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
Upright-alternator "shorting-coil" generator-coil circuit - AlternativeWorld Energy



I highly suspect that the African girls free energy unit operates as described
here:



So what are you waiting for, start building your free energy generator, Now!
I am willing to help as many people replicate this as possible. This is nothing
new. We have only been conditioned since childhood that Lenz is God. As
soon as you find out that this is not the case you will build the unit as simple
as a Muller generator, and power your home.

No names will be given to this, it has already got many names. Names make
the device hide behind it, it is the nameless free energy device of the future.
Just build it and help each other, and see for yourselves.

Just posted to help people remove the blocks in their mind. Help us build it.

Elias

[FRC]

Hope it works

You could also include the Lockridge device because of its similarity to the
Bedini/Watson machine. Hope your's works and we can see the videos soon.

FRC

[leo48]

Let's see

Leo48

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi elias, thanks for sharing your ideas.
I have built a generator that when shorting the coils, caused the rotor to speed up or reduce load on motor.
Also was able to charge a 12 volt battery and have the motor turning the generator amp draw lower a little bit.
Though I have never seen this happen when using air-core generator coils.

Running tests with my air-core dual rotor motor and using it as a generator.

I've found that when charging a capacitor, it of course draws current initially as it charges up which puts a load on shaft, then when speed of rotor levels off we have a balance between generator voltage output and capacitor standing voltage, so no current flows.
Now if we design the setup to charge a capacitor to a standing voltage of 15 volts and then use a means to switch the capacitor away from generator coils and direct it to a 12 volt battery to dump the charge and redirect back to generator, repeat, etc.
This way the generator will see very little lentz load and may be a more efficient way to run a generator. Very much like Bedinis ideas i guess.
Though the important part is not to let the capacitor get to low in voltage or it will draw too much current and put too much load on generator.
peace love light
Tyson

[elias]

Hi Tyson,

Well, not only I was able to speed up when shorting, but also I was able to
speed up when lighting a lamp with the coil. We need to open our minds and
look at this, there is and has been so much misinfo and disinfo about these
devices that distract people from the real effect.

The reason I think that you haven't seen acceleration effect with your air
core coils may be the fact that air coil cores are high frequency coils and
have much lower inductance thus you need to spin your rotor really fast.

My recent test results, with one coil:

4500 RPM:
Shorting causes acceleration.
Loading with a 55W 12 lamp at first acceleration and as the lamp lights up
the resistance of it increases thus the time constant decreases thus the rotor
decelerates a bit.

5400 RPM:
Shorting causes acceleration.
Loading causes no change in speed or slight acceleration.

6420 RPM:
Shorting causes acceleration up to 6600 RPM.
Loading with the mentioned lamp causes acceleration up to 6450 RPM.

There must be an optimum speed of rotation for a R & L combination and
these test results show that my theory is correct.

Lenz is only valid in lower speeds. Thats it!

Free energy was so obvious. NO MORE SECRECY AND GREED.

Just spin your rotor fast enough and get your energy.

Our focus should be from now on not on how to get free energy, but on how
to increase this effect and extract more energy, for the given input.
Help us build it.

Elias

[seth]

What a nice looking build Well done - im certainly interested in any other results you get with this set up. I like the simplicity of your explanations too. Very interesting.

Thanks and Good luck!

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi elias, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
I know others have commented that it may be just reducing the drag on an already inefficient stator setup and that is what may be causing increasing speed. It sure looks that way to me.
That is why I'd like to see or be able to run a load and have the rotor not slow down or increase in speed while using air-core generator coils.

Do you have any suggestions on how to accomplish this using an air-core generator coil. I'm all ears, cause I have the neo magnets on hand and a lot of 24 gauge wire left.

I can get the acceleration effect from using 1" diameter neo magnets on generator rotor and using 1/2" diameter steel bolt with about 6 ohms worth of 24 gauge wire wrapped onto bolt core.

So then I assume by your thinking, we would need to wind enough 24 gauge wire air-core coil to equal the inductance of the bolt core/coil. Your thoughts appreciated.
peace love light
Tyson

[ltseung888]

Theory behind your motor

Please read:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...gy-theory.html

That thread explains OPEN systems that bring-in surrounding energy. In this case, the surrounding electron motion energy will be brought-in.

One common condition for such energy to be brought-in is some type of resonance or pseudo resonance.

I also played with air cores last year. If the right LCR values matched the characteristics of the toroid and other circuit components, the Output Energy could be shown to be many times the Supplied Input Energy.

You are on the right track. Keep at it and you can bring-in electron motion energy too.

Lawrence

[Tehnoman]

Interesting indeed.

If this is what You say it is, It may be worth to investigate this effect at various magnet moving speeds in details. And see what Maxwell equations say about that.

If this would be the simple example that show case Maxwell equations does not stand true, It would be exactly what I am looking for.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I've been making some tests with my air-core dual rotor used as generator.
As I said I have seen the apparent lentz reduction when a generator rotor is brought up to a minimum speed probably similar to thanes work and others.
The thing is it takes some power to overcome the drag of neomagnets passing the cores.
What I'm suggesting, is that we may not even need such effects to achieve something novel here.
I've been hand spinning up the generator shaft and then connecting the series coils to one diode and a 45uf 370vac capacitor when at a good speed and it barely slows down the rotor. Also this brief slowdown happens in a very short time span once the capacitor voltage rises a bit.

This is probably along the lines of what Watson was doing.

Though ideally we should also disconnect the capacitor from the generator coils while dumping its charge into a battery, then disconnect the capacitor from the battery and reconnect it to the generator coils.
Though one could dump the capacitor fully, it would be more efficient to not let the voltage drop too low in the capacitor and charge a battery instead.

So my question is, since I have yet to see how well this capacitor or another with somewhat larger value, how well will this charge a battery. It seems it doing well for Bedini.
For a lower tech. application, this could be a hand or foot powered device geared up so slow rotation of arm or hand yields high generator rpm and very quick capacitor charging to dump charge batteries.

This is a technique that minimizes reflected current back to generator coils and should give us good efficiency. Though I'm sure it's what many others have been doing already.

Have you folks heard it explained this way before and do you see a flaw in my thinking, even so I'd like to hear your thoughts. I will be thinking up a way to implement and test this and see.
peace love light
Tyson

Edit: simple mechanical contact switches could be mounted to the rotation of the generator somewhere to make the alternating capacitor charge/dump switching, similar to Bedinis setups and others.

[elias]

I know others have commented that it may be just reducing the drag on an already inefficient stator setup and that is what may be causing increasing speed. It sure looks that way to me.

Hi Tyson,

This is what I thought at first too, but how, do you have an explanation?
If it is so then why don't we see this effect in lower speeds? As the speed of
the rotor increases the deceleration gradually moves to acceleration, and
also the number of windings have a say in this too. if you lower the number
of windings on the coil then this effect happens at a higher RPM.

For air core coils you need to go very fast with you magnets to see this
effect because of the lower inductance of such coils, according to my theory
of course.

Even if what you say is the case that it serves as a drag reducer, it is worthy
too, because we are reducing the drag while extracting energy from the coil.

Muller's machine is using special polycrystalline core with coils that have
really low resistance, thus having a higher time constant due to that .

See this table:Permeability (electromagnetism) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Magnetic permeability of materials differ and have a substantial effect on the
coil inductance. So it is evident that ferrite has very lower permeability than
electrical steel, that I am using. If you get your hands on Mu-metal, it might
be one of the best choices available.

The new design for a muller generator, taken from his website:
MULLERPOWER.com ... advancing the legacy of Bill Muller's work in Motor/Generators...



Elias

[elias]

Interesting indeed.

If this is what You say it is, It may be worth to investigate this effect at various magnet moving speeds in details. And see what Maxwell equations say about that.

If this would be the simple example that show case Maxwell equations does not stand true, It would be exactly what I am looking for.

Can you elaborate on that? I am not quite familiar about what Maxwell has to say about coils and magnetic fields.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi elias, did you see my last post.
The only explanation I can offer are the results from my tests using the bolt cores.
The motor amp load turning the generator never went below free wheeling, meaning without ferro cores interacting with the magnets.
I agree this could be useful, though I guess it's up to us to find the use and apply it.

If you read my last post you'll see I think Watson was probably not using this effect, though who knows. I think he was discharging a capacitor bank into his battery that the generator barely noticed, causing very little shaft load and what shaft load there was was made up for by the heavy flywheel.
peace love light
Tyson

[elias]

Hi elias, did you see my last post.
The only explanation I can offer are the results from my tests using the bolt cores.
The motor amp load turning the generator never went below free wheeling, meaning without ferro cores interacting with the magnets.
I agree this could be useful, though I guess it's up to us to find the use and apply it.

If you read my last post you'll see I think Watson was probably not using this effect, though who knows. I think he was discharging a capacitor bank into his battery that the generator barely noticed, causing very little shaft load and what shaft load there was was made up for by the heavy flywheel.
peace love light
Tyson

We don't know yet what Watson was doing exactly. The descriptions made by Mr Bedini is vague, and the photographs of the machine is amazingly BLACK & WHITE! Didn't we have colour cameras in the 1980s? Yes charging capacitors with the machine when the machine is running at higher speed doesn't cause drag in the system. Didn't your bolt cores have eddy drag on the rotor? I am searching for a more appropriate core material, that is easily obtainable, at the moment. Welding rods seem to be one of the easiest choices.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi elias, thanks for your thoughts.
Well we may not know what Watson was doing exactly. Though i see a capacitor bank in your picture of the Watson machine.
Watson aside for now, don't you think the fact that a capacitor can be charged by a rotating generator with the generator barely noticing when capacitor dump charges batteries is worthy of testing.
After all, aren't we after more simple methods that most people can replicate.
What I'm saying is, I don't think any special effects are even needed. Though if you feel im derailing your thread, let me know.
Though I'll have to test this to know more.
And yes of course the bolt cores have eddy drag, but so do laminated cores, just less. Now other high cost materials for cores just left out the average people with little money. That's why i like the air-core coils.
peace love light
Tyson