The Edwin Gray Pulsed Capacitor Discharge Electric Engine

[SkyWatcher]

Hi toranarod, thanks for sharing. With my air core dual rotor pulse motor, repulsion has the same torque as attraction.
So I am surprised at your results, considering one would think the magnets would be dragged back to the core somewhat with eddy currents as well.

Maybe your pulsing it just right and getting some repulsion kick departing the coil/core as well. Or since it has good speed, the natural back drag to core doesn't have much effect.
Did you grasp the shaft before when you had it in repulsion for comparison. And if so, how many times more torque would you say it has in attraction mode.
Thanks, this sounds good.
peace love light
tyson
edit: oh and is the speed also similar as before

[toranarod]

Hi toranarod, thanks for sharing. With my air core dual rotor pulse motor, repulsion has the same torque as attraction.
So I am surprised at your results, considering one would think the magnets would be dragged back to the core somewhat with eddy currents as well.

Maybe your pulsing it just right and getting some repulsion kick departing the coil/core as well. Or since it has good speed, the natural back drag to core doesn't have much effect.
Did you grasp the shaft before when you had it in repulsion for comparison. And if so, how many times more torque would you say it has in attraction mode.
Thanks, this sounds good.
peace love light
tyson
edit: oh and is the speed also similar as before

Thank you Sky
this is exactly what I believed this why I have asked for another opinion.
It does not make a lot of sense. this why I have never tried it before.

in repulsion mode I would always grab the center shaft to stop the motor quickly if i wanted to change something. when i did the same general thing as i always do i could not stop the motor with my hands. this was how i noticed
how different it was. it really was very clear there was something going on.
other wise I would have never noticed it.

I have no logical answer for this at this time. But i will give it a bit of my time to see if it can be used and explained. to some advantage.

the other thing it supplied was a out put voltage on the generator coils
greater than the supply rail. you can see what that means.

I am going to try to attract on approach and repulse on departure.
very complex to setup. still thinking about it. The one thing thats bugs me in the back of my mind is on all the videos I have seen on you tube an inventor calming over unity has often commented on attraction as well as repulsion as the secret to the design.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi toranarod, thanks for that information.
Also, in the attraction mode, is the input current the same as before or average input watts the same and with same input voltage. It sounded as though you are saying that your pulsing is a shorter on time.

I had an experience with a pulse motor setup one time many years back now. It had ferrite magnets and at one point while adjusting the timing in attraction mode, all the sudden while grasping the shaft, it had tremendous amounts of shaft torque and was very difficult to stop the shaft.
So I wonder if this is similar.

Also, a patent by Z.T. Lindsey, patent #us 2,279,690.
His motor/generator uses attraction and repulsion. I found it in Patrick Kellys older 1991 pdf.
peace love light
tyson

[toranarod]

Its been a while.

I don’t know if any body has ever tried this before but it’s been an idea I have wanted to try for some time. It will never go OU. Well not in my life time LOL.

I attached a 20 mm neo magnet to the top of the piston of this model plane motor and positioned an iron core coil just .5 mm above it at TDC. Advanced the motor a few degrees and engaged the coil and away it went.
I got 200 rpm out of it. It took 2.4 AMP at 50 volts to make it run with a bit of speed. I was shocked it actually worked.

I am in the pursuit of the EV Gray so I built this. I am going to charge Caps up to very High voltages and discharge them in to coils as grey did.

I thought this was an interesting way the test the circuits and measure the output. It became very clear a high pulse discharge would make the motor spin X amount of times and I can measure the current. I like a physical demo.

[ZeropointEnergy]

Nice proof of concept

I don’t know if any body has ever tried this before but it’s been an idea I have wanted to try for some time. It will never go OU. Well not in my life time LOL.

I attached a 20 mm neo magnet to the top of the piston of this model plane motor and positioned an iron core coil just .5 mm above it at TDC. Advanced the motor a few degrees and engaged the coil and away it went.
I got 200 rpm out of it. It took 2.4 AMP at 50 volts to make it run with a bit of speed. I was shocked it actually worked.

I am in the pursuit of the EV Gray so I built this. I am going to charge Caps up to very High voltages and discharge them in to coils as grey did.

I thought this was an interesting way the test the circuits and measure the output. It became very clear a high pulse discharge would make the motor spin X amount of times and I can measure the current. I like a physical demo.

Hey Rod,

Very nice job in getting that running and that is a nice demo.
About the high voltage discharges to the cap, this being obtained by an inverter,
stored energy in series coils/caps or alternative methodology?

Keep up the posts, I do believe you will achieve this very soon

Regards
Zero

[greygeek]

I'm very interested in building an Ed Gray motor

You guys are doing an awesome job and congratulations on progress so far.

I'm not sure if this is any help but I have a copy of a document that describes how to build one of these, I'm not even sure if it works, but it contains part of Ed Gray's patent. Let me know if you want a copy and I'll email it to you.

I'd be very interested to know you progress to date on these motors.

Regards,
David.

[mbrownn]

I would like to take a look at it