Flexible Line Inertial Impact Drive Pendulum

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I had this idea while in bed yesterday.


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The idea is to create a propulsion impact force that will give a net forward movement within a moveable structure.
I have built in the past a rigid pendulum arm mounted on a free moving cart with roller blade wheels and as expected the reaction force was reflected 100% back the opposite direction, causing no net forward movement.

Though I have yet to try try this flexible pendulum arm idea out yet, I think it could have potential.
Also, I could envision this in a horizontal position also and for continuous operation, the impact plate can be retracted to allow swing or full swing movement.
Let me know what you folks think.
peace love light
tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I rigged up a simple setup to test this idea and it does appear to work.

In fact I used the heavy particle board structure I made for my previous pendulum as the moveable structure and set it on two threaded rods for rolling ability.

I was able to move this mass with less than a half pound a couple of inches forward using the release and swing shown in the cad pic i posted.
Couldn't this be used as efficient propulsion or am i missing something.
Seems it could be, let me know what you folks think.
peace love light
tyson

[N O G]

Pendulum

Hi there Tyson ,
My guess is - the faster the device rolls the faster youll have to swing the pendulum because the device is then in motion , from a stand still position it will work . cheers Jason

[Matthew Jones]

Sorry to bust your bubble bud but your not the only tinkering with this idea.

YouTube - Power of the Pendulum - Proof of Ultra-Efficiency?


Cheers
Matt

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi Matthew Jones, bust my what, what is this bubble supposed to be. Your funny.
Hi NOG, I couldn't say without testing something in continuous motion if what you say is true, though i think it would work.

Folks, i started this thread because i think this could be a useful method to propel something.
I certainly am not claiming to have come up with the idea and nobody else can in the grander theme of the universe anyway.
All creative energy comes from source.
If anyone has any ideas they would like to share about how this could be made manifest into some kind of propulsion setup, i'm all ears.

Otherwise, like that video you posted matt. I'm thinking that to allow for a greater pendulum swing, it would have a retractable impact plate and the device could have at least three pendulums on board so as to make it like a v8 engine, where each pendulum can impact at different times to smooth out the propulsion force and give a more continuous forward movement.
Let me know what you folks think.
peace love light
tyson

[Matthew Jones]

I was just kidding a little bit. I think that video just came out not to long ago.

Matt

[Gdez]

Milkovic

@skywatcher,
Matt was just kidding. Don't get mad at him. His only problem is that he knows that the pendulum and eccentric rotors have a potential to be an awesome energy source. I am not a physics major, but I'm not that bad at math either. Through my experiments, I can easily see that there is something to milkovic's work, especially with water pumping. Look at all of Milkovics video's, trust me it's worth it, even though the music and video is horrible.. The demo he does with a drill and eccentric rotor is very good. To me, even a simple replication of milkovics experiments is not hard even for the novice builder. If anyone wants to argue about it, just build something. Once you see for your self, you will probably really like the whole thing. Getting these machines in synch is the key. Raymond Head has videos that obviously show more energy out then in. Remember, ray's videos show him pushing with his hand, but all he is doing is what a lot of people in the free energy thing are doing, wether it's mechanical or solid state electronics....pulsing the input. Maybe that is the key to all free energy. Just a thought anyway.

[kcarring]

If you divided the Milkovic Pendulum in two halves and called the front end the Hammer End and the rear end, The Pendulum End...

Is there a division point between the two ends, that is to say, where the pivot point is, are both the resting mass of both ends, then equal and in balance? Or does the Hammer End need to have more mass than the Pendulum end? Optimally speaking...

That's what I don't get from the videos / discussion.

Cheers

[SkyWatcher]

Hi matt and Gdez, I'm glad you were kidding, besides I don't get mad anymore. I know for a fact now that you folks are me and I AM you, beautiful isn't it.
I guess what I'm intending to highlight to you good folks, is that the experiment i made a few years back with my solid, rigid arm pendulum mounted on the free wheeling cart, showed zero movement forward when the pendulum hit the impact plate.
Though with a flexible pendulum arm, it is a different story, we have a net forward movement.
And i think it's because when pendulum impacts, the string oscillates like an alternating current wave and therefore the impact force is non-rectified back through moving structure and canceled, resulting in little to no reaction force in opposite direction.
That's my thinking on it anyway.
peace love light
tyson

[Matthew Jones]

Its a worth wild thing to look at.

The collision between objects or forces are the key to everything we are looking for. I can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt that this were the greatest power lies.

A collision between Kinetic energy, inertia and gravity can deliver 100's of time more energy than is put into the system. Why wouldn't inertia and solid object also deliver this energy?

Take for instance an out of balance flywheel. Can you stop it? Probably not but you can control its release of energy. But when releases its energy can you stop it? Probably not.....

Keep thinking about this thing, and I'll bet you can find the power in it.

Asymmetrical power, thats what you want.

Matt

[Gdez]

Hammer end pendulum end

@Kcarring,
I am not sure about how to answer your question, but I started out by reading panacea's pdf on the two stage oscillator. Lindemanns model builders guide is a good place to start. The only reason I decided to build one was because it looked pretty simple. Tuning one is usaully the hardest part and takes some patience. You can build many variations also, it doesn't nessacarily have to look like milkovics. The problem is there are no specific instructions on things like pendulum weight and length and lever arm length and weight. Those are the things you have to just wing it with and see what happens. It also depends on the size and weight you want to work with. I like big and heavy, and since I am going to soon be in a better financial situation I will hopefully be building a new model shortly. The main thing I like to do is what lindemann says, "Make everything adjustable". It makes building a little bit harder but you can experiment around with a lot of different weights and lengths. I would start small and work your way up. Good luck.
also KCarring, Lindemanns guide does say something about balancing the pendulum and lever end.

[boguslaw]

Very good example of parametric oscillation. I thought about pendulum with changing length of arms and it may become efficient rotary propeller also with miniscule energy used.

The problem is how to construct such device which has to contract and extend arms moving center of mass exactly at correct time of period of oscillation and that movement must be as fast as possible.

[o541o]

@skywatcher,
... If anyone wants to argue about it, just build something. Once you see for your self, you will probably really like the whole thing. Getting these machines in synch is the key...

Maybe another way to say that is getting them in resonance is the key? Just like it's the key to electro-mechanical OU devises.

So, is there a solid state electronics analogy to this device?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, thanks for the replies.
Hi o541o, If you are referring to the cad pic i posted, There could be a solid state electronic analogy.
What i see with this flexible arm pendulum, is that it is in resonance with gravity and the parameters of the length and mass used for pendulum weight.

It cannot be forced beyond its natural time constant to swing a full or half swing, based on the pendulum mass and arm length.
What I'm thinking as to how this device can be driven by a motor at pendulum axis point, is that the pendulum arm can be split into two parts.
The first half section of the arm coming from axis point will be rigid, then the next half of arm will be flexible, then connecting to mass.
This might help give the ability of good start up and half or full swing ability, to give a faster restart time to next impact of mass to impact plate for propulsion.
Just a few thoughts.
peace love light
tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I thought up a new improved design, I think, I have yet to build it. Though I will build a small test model with a motor i salvaged from a 5 cd changer.
It will have light weights just to try and see if it works as thought.
I'm thinking a geared down motor to slow down rotor some and give more torque will probably be the best way to go, for now I'll power it with low voltage just to see if the small sized cart moves forward well enough.
Let me know what you folks think of this new idea, thanks. Here is a cad pic.



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peace love light
tyson