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    YouTube - Innovative micro hydroelectric turbine

    Thought there are some similarities there are more differences between classic hydraulic ram and present experiment especially the application of exploiting for hydroelectric power in manner illustrated.

    Though in video water flowing from tap is shown it works same way if there is a reservoir at starting of the collapsible bladder and if small pipe is connected to it.

    The most important point is that it enters at zero or negative head and works well at low velocity flows and therefore useful for hydroelectric power generation from small streams or rivers at waterfall areas and there is no requirement for constructing large dams/reservoirs for it to work. Hence it can be used as a very costeffective micro or pico hydroelectric plant in rural and hilly interiors where communications are difficult to establish. Once started the process goes on as long there is water continously flowing from above.

    1) It converts continuous flow of water to pulsatile flow thereby energy from continuous source is made to release in pulses and therefore becomes more powerful and can turn parts much heavier than would be achieved by utilizing continuous flow.

    2) The rotating mechanism shown is actually demo model of 2 stroke internal combustion engine and here instead of pulses of combustion of gas which happens in all engines the piston is connected to to & fro oscillating pipes produced by repeated waterhammer effect and this powers the jerky rotations of the wheel which are coupled to a dynamo.

    3) The whole of water surface in contact with pipes is involved in energy transfer unlike conventional turbines where the blades in contact to fraction of water flow are used and for long time engineers dreamed of making a effective device which converts wider area of energy distributed in water resources
    Thus it scores over Pelton wheel, Francis turbine or Kaplans and truly advanced next generation turbine.
    This is continuation of another youtube video which I uploaded few months ago and the theoretical description of the working of model is better given there
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    For any queries please contact me, I am the sole inventor for this new type of hydraulic applications. I have applied for patent and it is under process for approval

    My name is P Udaya Prashant
    I am a cardiologist by profession with other varied interests
    My permanent address is
    Plot no -306,
    Jawaharnagar,
    Moulali,
    Hyderabad,
    Andhra Pradesh,
    India 500040.

    Mobile no - +918008069202

    email id is udayaprashant_p@yahoo.co.in


    Ash

  • #2
    wow thats great ash. I have about a dozen friends off grid with streams in BC Canada that will love to see this. That thing is torquey! Nice little supplement to the battery bank. No reason while you couldn't pulse charge your bank this way, 24/7. That's really add up for a few people I know, who are currently looking at their little stream thinking it is capable only of supplying water.
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    • #3
      Hi M8, have invited him into the forum

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      • #4
        That looks cool! I have seen a similar pulsing/strike motion effect happening in high pressure hoses that are airlocked!

        Do you think a clutch and flywheel could be added to give continuous motion and energy storage?

        Best Regards
        The history of science shows that theories are perishable.With every new truth that is revealed,we get a better understanding of Nature and our conceptions and views are modified. - Nikola Tesla

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        • #5
          Innovative micro hydroelectric turbine

          Thanks for your interest and comments on model.
          I really wish good experts can spare some of their valuable time and
          ssuggests improvements in the basic design so that it can
          be commercially viable.
          Reagarding continous motion, may be we can schieve by suitable gear
          mmechanism but we must see the tube freely oscillates as
          ootherwise the bladder simply collapses and water runs dowm
          continously and nothing else moves.
          It works on persistance of unstable/quasistable fluid dynamic
          state inside rubber bladder and lot of conditions have to
          be satisfied and thats y further research might simplify
          matters and we must have mathematical explanatory model to do so.

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          • #6
            Udaya !
            Thanks for sharing this concept with the world, i think you will find the energetic forum different than others.

            Ash

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            • #7
              This pulsing business is very interesting. Reminiscent of Chas Campbell and also the Jim Watson (i.e. rather large) variant of the John Bedini electrically pulsed device. It could provide OU performance.

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              • #8
                Wow, how simple can it get. I think this guy has totally solved my irrigation dilemna. I've been trying to figure out how to pump water from the small spring down the hill and it seems to me this is it. I'm thinking he may be able to replace the bladder with a check valve/expansion tank combination for better effieciency and preformance, but I really like the simplicity of the bag. Also i would love to see it bouncing on a lever/and or spring to see how much you can amplfy the torque. No excuses not to try this one! Looks like there could be numerous practical applications for this device.

                @ udayprashant,
                Excellent idea, I think you can go far with this.
                Good luck, Gdez

                Also looks like this could easily have Milkovics two stage oscillation effect applied to it. Living energy machine also(gotta find link)
                Last edited by Gdez; 04-13-2011, 11:47 AM. Reason: add

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                • #9
                  Hi Ash, Thanks for showing this.
                  I too would like to Udaya, and thanks for sharing.

                  My thoughts on this. WOW!!! I see much potential here. In watching the videos what caught my eye, is the pulsed vertical movement of the hose section below the flexible C shape in the device.
                  Now, if this section were replaced by a piece of tubing, might this then be used somehow as a linear alternator? Or does to much rigidity nullify the effect? Hidro+ uses a linear alternator but their strokes are much longer. If in fact this concept is feasible, then I wonder if a jet at the bottom of the tube might create lift and improve efficiency.

                  Best of luck to you Udaya.

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                  • #10
                    Kick ass

                    I did a quick model of this and it worked perfectly. I think i;m leaning to see ow i can use the bouncing effect to run a diapraghm pump.Simple, easy, low head way to pump water up hill. I think just from a quick look you can get away with this setup with as little as 3 to 6 feet of fall.
                    Last edited by Gdez; 04-14-2011, 08:36 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Dear friends of energeticforum. I am really happy to post my work here and I am really excited of various ideas people here are having regarding my work and in this situation "None teaches better than your own hands" as I really cant comment as to what happens if we proceed with these novel modifications.
                      But as for my understanding goes the elastic rubber bladder as very essential prerequisite and some of the properties it exhibits closely resembles the properties of collapsible tubes which cannot be ignored.

                      For comprehensive understanding of the subject one can follow links given in M Heil`s home page.
                      Matthias Heil's home page
                      I know it is wild idea to correlate with collapsible tubes theory but if we can give simplified explanation based on existing work I am sure you will have series of papers to be published

                      Thank you all your guys...

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                      • #12
                        I think your water contraption would maximize its electricity production if it was coupled with an Electricity-Generating Shock Absorbers.

                        more on this Electricity-Generating Shock Absorbers:

                        Electricity-Generating Shock Absorbers - Technology Review

                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks Udayprashant and welcome.

                          My goodness. My heart skipped a beat when I saw this! :P

                          Really interesting and very simple. Those are generally the best ideas. The action so reminds one of the operation of the heart organ, that it nearly takes on a living aspect when you watch it.

                          I'm going to try and replicate this as soon as possible. Great stuff Uday! And thanks for finding and inviting Ash.
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                          • #14
                            i would like to add one more suggestion, if i may, your micro hydroelectric turbine would combine very well with Veljko Milkovic Hand water pump with a pendulum.

                            link:

                            YouTube - Pendulum eases pumping of water

                            Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-19-2011, 10:07 PM.
                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                              i would like to add one more suggestion, if i may, your micro hydroelectric turbine would combine very well with Veljko Milkovic Hand water pump with a pendulum.

                              link:

                              YouTube - Pendulum eases pumping of water

                              Thanks for the suggestion and I initially though of elaborate pendulum gear arrangement but the mechanical models I constructed were crude and couldnt produce sustained motion with them. I was unaware of Milkovic`s hand pump till you suggested and I am quite fascinated by the design

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