Seminar/Workshop for United Nations?

[ltseung888]

FLEET is NOT a conventional transformer circuit!!!

From what I understand, the circuit is a transformer with primary and secondary. Primary is the input, secondary is the output. Suppose the typical formula for transformer is like this

IV = iv for IV is primary side iv is secondary

Conventionally if the voltage is double on the secondary, the current is halved. You claimed that the IV = iv relationship does not hold? Meaning

IV (primary)= .5I * 2.3V (secondary) for example

Am I correct?

FLEET is NOT a traditional transformer circuit. It is a Pulsing LCR circuit from the basic Joule Thief acting as the primary. It has an LCR circuit in the secondary to be tuned to sympathetic vibration. Some historic information may help:

Looking back at posts starting in July 2010

Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets

Reply 411 – Taiwan Inventor showing a version of Tong Wheel

Reply 426 – Use Signal Generator instead of battery for transformer and Joule Thief

Reply 429 – First concept of FLEET – Combine JT and Transformer on Toroid

Reply 434 – July 13, First successful demonstration of FLEET (COP > 1)

Reply 438 – First two oscilloscope shot showing the Input and Output Power curves

Reply 456 – Component parts of the air toroid

Reply 469 – More results showing that tuning is required

Reply 470 – First sign of the standing wave.

Reply 503 – The Joule Thief with secondary Circuit Diagram

Reply 508 – The use of tiny ferrite core toroid to recharge battery

Reply 527 – The prototype from Dr. Raymond Ting (Vpp = 240V)

Even though that thread at overunity.com was “overwhelmed” by the insulters, naysayers, trolls and other trouble makers, it served as a good record of the development and the excitement at that historic month (July 2010).

Nobody can take away that joy and sense of accomplishment. The Standing Wave was clearly shown in Reply 470. It could not be a hoax. ( I did not realize it was a classic standing wave at that time!)

Please examine reply 470 very carefully. That standing wave is the proof that we achieved resonance. It is the uncut diamond that impressed the United Nation Experts. It is the absolute confirmation that their search of Overunity devices is fruitful. It will be in the scientific history books.

Divine Revelations may take time to sink into the brains of Humans. Amen.

[quantumuppercut]

Revelation is revelation. Weather it is divine or not divine depends on each person. If one must accept it as divine or one must accept it as not divine, such departs from the true teaching.

[ltseung888]

The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok

The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok

Ashtweth brought my attention to the working invention by James Kwok called Hidro. The brief description is as follows:

Hidro is a new discovery which can advance education. The technology parallels that of a submarine, which uses buoyancy, gravity, gas density and hydrostatic pressure gradients to ascend and descend. Hidro does the same but drives a generator through this motion. All these factors produce CONSTANT motion and make it possible to harness energy freely from the environment.

Since Mr. James Kwok is also Chinese, I paid special attention to his invention. The following are my findings:

1. He uses energy from air. The formulas used are:
Ein = Pin x Vin (1)
Eout = Pout x Vout (2)
Ein = Energy of Air brought into the system
Pin = Pressure of Air at Input
Vin = Volume of Air at Input
Eout = Energy of Air flowing out at Output
Pout = Pressure of Air at Output
Vout = Volume of Air at Output

2. Ein can be much greater than Eout. That explains where the energy comes from. Energy from Still Air is brought-in from the environment. So long as there is air flowing in and out of the system, the system must be an OPEN system. Energy will be flowing in and out with the flowing air. Thus we cannot blindly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy.

3. The supplied energy is from the compressed air at the bottom of the tower. Work is done to expel some of the water from the submarine type container. So long as the compressed air pressure is slightly above the pressure of the water column at that level, the water will be displaced. We can call this as Esupplied.

4. Most people made the mistake of assuming that Esupplied = Ein. They did not see the fact that air actually flows into the system and flows out from the system. Air itself is not a fuel but an energy carrier. Ein can be considered as the bring-in energy. It can be much greater than Eout. The difference can be used to do work (in addition to Esupplied).

5. Pin can be the minimum pressure of air at that water level. In the submarine type structure, that pressure can be much, much higher. The principle is similar to the water rocket. When a valve is opened, the compressed air will force the water out, generating a large thrust. The submarine container goes up both from the floatation and the thrust.

6. At the top of the water tower, all the air is allowed to escape. Water enters the container. The density will be greater than 1 and the submarine container will help the downward motion.

7. The Ein term can be engineered to be much greater than the Eout term. That is the magic behind the Kwok Hidro. Energy is constantly brought-in from air. The air escaping out from the top and on the way up will have much lower pressure and a little bit higher volume. The product will be less than that at the bottom. The extraction of energy from air can be verified by a colder air temperature at the top.

8. The theory is now explained. There is no violating of the Law of Conservation Energy. Air carries its energy in and out of the Hidro device. That energy from Still Air is used. That energy is virtually inexhaustible on the surface of the earth. Thus the Hidro can self-run and generate extra electrical energy from the bring-in energy of air.

9. Mr. James Kwok is brilliant in producing the mechanical and control mechanisms to turn the theory into a workable system. I salute him on his excellent achievement. With the bring-in energy theory behind, his invention will pass all academic scrutiny.

10. Theoretically, it is not the best in terms of footprint, cost of construction and ease of transport. But if it is the first to be deployed in the Market, it will have its place in History. The steam engine is not the most efficient or the best, but it earned its place in history.

God sends HIS angels. I am glad that this angel is Chinese. That will inspire many more Chinese Inventors. The Dragon from the East will rise. Is that a verse from the Bible? Amen

[ltseung888]

Revelation is revelation. Weather it is divine or not divine depends on each person. If one must accept it as divine or one must accept it as not divine, such departs from the true teaching.

Correct. I treat it as Divine. You are free to treat it as something else. But please do not give the credit to me.

Any one is free to improve and produce Products based on the Divine Revelation. There are no patent restrictions on multiple LCR resonance bringing-in electron motion energy. The information is now in the Public Domain and "complete coverage patenting" is no longer possible.

There is no need to even quote my name in any future research. I am not the inventor. I stared at the standing wave since July 2010 and did not know it!

[ltseung888]

The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok (2)

From:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post137659

The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok Reply 18

Ashtweth brought my attention to the working invention by James Kwok called Hidro. The brief description is as follows:

Hidro is a new discovery which can advance education. The technology parallels that of a submarine, which uses buoyancy, gravity, gas density and hydrostatic pressure gradients to ascend and descend. Hidro does the same but drives a generator through this motion. All these factors produce CONSTANT motion and make it possible to harness energy freely from the environment.

Since Mr. James Kwok is also Chinese, I paid special attention to his invention. The first post is in reply 18 of the above mentioned thread. This is the second post.

One question the average person may ask is:
Does the James Kwok Hidro use gravitational energy? Is it a form of unbalanced wheel?

My answer is NO. The reasons are:

1. If he uses gravitational energy from the falling submarine container, that will be very limited. The maximum energy is governed by the formula “potential energy = mgh” where m is mass of the container, g is the gravitational constant and h is the height. This submarine container does not fall in vacuum. It falls inside a water column. The downward force will be opposed by the buoyancy (= volume x density of water x g) and the water resistance. He has to bring up another submarine container at the same time with that limited force.

2. If he uses energy from air (formula in reply 18), he can control the speed of ascent of the submarine container. He does not need to rely on the buoyancy alone. He can jet out some of the water + Air in the submarine container. That will give a very high upward force. He is effectively firing a torpedo! That force is much higher than what step 1 can possibly provide.

3. Most people (even scientists) may mistakenly think that the energy supplied to compress the air is the total Input Energy. They are mistaken. Air is not a fuel but an Energy Carrier. The total Input Energy should be the sum of the Epump + Eair. Epump is the energy supplied. Ein is the Energy carried into the submarine container by air.

4. For a 100% efficient system Eout should be equal to Epump +Ein. Ein is FREE. It is the bring-in air energy. It is the energy freely from the environment mentioned in the last sentence of the brief description.

5. James Kwok can control the output power by adjusting the “torpedo jet valve”; the actual pressure of the compressed air; and the ratio of water and air in the rising submarine container. Salute to him and his team’s brilliant engineering.

6. In other words, Mr. James Kwok is using the energy from still air. Air is constantly flowing in and out of his Hidro device. That device cannot be a CLOSED system. Energy is carried by the forced flowing air. The device will run cold. This can easily be checked by measuring the temperature of the air around the top of the tower.

This is my analysis. Others are welcome to put forward their analysis. The World will learn better and faster with such scientific input.

More servers are coming. Amen.

[jpentp]

ltsung888 said
"Since Mr. James Kwok is also Chinese, I paid special attention to his invention. The following are my findings:"

From what I got off their site James Kwok is working in Australia and got his Degree there but I fail to see what his nationality has to do with anything?
Pete

[ltseung888]

Draft Introduction Slides

These are the first draft slides (1 to 6) for the proposed seminar/workshop.

The details will follow.

[ltseung888]

First Draft Introduction Slides

These are the first draft Introduction slides (7-9) for the proposed seminar.

Details to follow.

[ltseung888]

Link to the draft presentation slides

The draft presentation slides for the proposed United Nations Seminar are in the following:

United Nations Seminar/Workshop

That site is chosen because I have moderator privilege there. Since the Slides represent only the first draft, I can modify them as needed. You are welcome to PM me or provide your feedback/comments on this thread.

Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation (Hong Kong)

[ltseung888]

Reply to Milehigh at overunityresearch.com

[quote author=MileHigh link=topic=785.msg13096#msg13096 date=1303164958]
Lawrence:

Please show me your equations to back up your claim that it works. There are no real formulas or equations in your reply #18 above.

MileHigh
[/quote]

In reply 18 in the thread:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post138071

1. He uses energy from air. The formulas used are:
Ein = Pin x Vin (1)
Eout = Pout x Vout (2)
Ein = Energy of Air brought into the system
Pin = Pressure of Air at Input
Vin = Volume of Air at Input
Eout = Energy of Air flowing out at Output
Pout = Pressure of Air at Output
Vout = Volume of Air at Output

2. Ein can be much greater than Eout. That explains where the energy comes from. Energy from Still Air is brought-in from the environment. So long as there is air flowing in and out of the system, the system must be an OPEN system. Energy will be flowing in and out with the flowing air. Thus we cannot blindly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy.

3. The supplied energy is from the compressed air at the bottom of the tower. Work is done to expel some of the water from the submarine type container. So long as the compressed air pressure is slightly above the pressure of the water column at that level, the water will be displaced. We can call this as Esupplied.

4. Most people made the mistake of assuming that Esupplied = Ein. They did not see the fact that air actually flows into the system and flows out from the system. Air itself is not a fuel but an energy carrier. Ein can be considered as the bring-in energy. It can be much greater than Eout. The difference can be used to do work (in addition to Esupplied).

5. Pin can be the minimum pressure of air at that water level. In the submarine type structure, that pressure can be much, much higher. The principle is similar to the water rocket. When a valve is opened, the compressed air will force the water out, generating a large thrust. The submarine container goes up both from the floatation and the thrust.

Please work out the physics and mathematics behind equations (1) and (2) in Point 1. You may be making the same mistake as most people in Point 4.

When air flows in and out of an OPEN system, one cannot blindly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy. One MUST consider the difference between energy carried in by air and the energy carried out by air.

Please study reply 18 and reply 20 in that thread carefully.

[ltseung888]

Some more on the James Kwok Hidro

Some more on the James Kwok Hidro

The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

The above is the discussion of the toy water rocket by Tseung and Physics Students posted at overunity.com. The problem is complex.

http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics...Zani/rokit.pdf

Paper by Dr. David Kagan et al. Dr. Kagan received his PhD from UC California – Berkeley.

In the study of these rockets, we discovered that their launch can be modeled by a wonderful physics problem that illustrates Newton’s Second Law, the concept of momentum and relative velocity, fluid flowing using Bernoulli’s Principle, and the equation of continuity, and the diabetic expansion of an ideal gas. In addition, the resulting equation of motion for the rocket, "like real world problems", cannot be solved analytically and therefore require a numerical solution….

The James Kwok Hidro is even more complex. It has elements of buoyancy, water drag, viscosity, linking to another container, controlling the valves to eject different amounts of water, etc.

The ultra simple concept of falling weight potential energy (mgh) is totally insufficient and WRONG for such analysis. Please read the above paper before coming to the conclusions.

One can buy a simple toy water rocket and fill it with different levels of water and see the height achieved. The greatest height is NOT from all air or all water. It must be tuned. The James Kwok Hidro must be carefully tuned and controlled.

Edit: When something is difficult in Physics, we sometimes joke with the phrase – “It requires a rocket scientist to understand.” The James Kwok Hidro literally requires a rocket scientist to understand and interpret!

The Divine Revelations of the Lord still require the good wine tasters and servers. These wine tasters and servers will help the Masses. Amen.

[ltseung888]

Comments on a brilliant suggestion

Scooping Ash's Panacea "Hidro" report Reply 100

Suppose the invention use buoyancy by letting water fill up the cylinder at the surface and pump air into the piston side when it reached the bottom.
Let us simplify the case to which no work can be extract from the cylinder on the way upward (surfacing). Meaning it has barely enough buoyancy to surface.
The energy extract from the device going down thereby proportional to the water height H.
The energy needed to pump the water out is also the amount H. Such case cannot extract useful work.

Let us consider the two scenarios.

The top drawing shows air pumping into the cylinder. The energy used is H. As it surface, the cylinder expands which provide a greater surfacing force. Energy can be extracted from buoyancy. Air pressure is lost in the process.

The bottom drawing shows air pumping into the cylinder. The energy used is H. Since now we have a stopper, it is a constant volume through out. This time we cannot extract energy from buoyancy, but at the surface, we can extract the air pressure to recover energy.

The bottom line is, we can either utilize or recover input energy.

Dear GIbbsHelmholtz,

Very clever. You can do better with a third scenario. There are two stoppers. The first one is retractable so that the air can expand and push the water. The second one will stop the piston completely and trap the air inside.

The air trapped will still have higher pressure than atmospheric and can be used to help to compress and force the water out from the bottom submarine container.

You get the best of both worlds. The compressed air is NOT wasted! Water is ejected out just like the normal water rocket. However, you need to provide the full force (and thus energy) to displace the water the first time. In the second time, you will be assisted by the trapped, partially compressed air.

Mr. James Kwok will love your posts – if he has not implemented that concept already. I personally find the Engineering Aspects too overwhelming. Multiple LCR resonance circuits remain my favorite.

God sends his Angels to help. Humans have limited intelligence. Amen.

[ltseung888]

Energy from Still Air in general

Energy from Still Air in general

It looks like some folks on the Internet never learned the fact that:

Air is not a fuel but an energy carrier. It can carry energy into Eair_in a system and it can carry energy out Eair_out from the same system. If Eair_in is greater than Eair_out, that difference in energy can be used by the system.

This is just a consequence of an OPEN system. There is no special magic associated with it.

Let us take the simple case of the toy water rocket. We can first fill half of the rocket with water. The other half is air. We then turn the rocket around before pumping in air. The vessel already has half of its volume filled with air. We do not need any pumping to get it there. Can this portion of the air energy be considered “bring-in energy”?

When the water rocket is launched and returned, there is evidence of condensation. This is evidence that there is cooling when the compressed air expanded. Cooling implies that energy in the system (air) has been converted to other forms. It will require heat energy from the surrounding to replenish it. Can we treat this used energy as “lead-out or bring-in” energy from our device? I use the term lead-out this time as it sounds more appropriate.

Thus there are two sources of energy we need to account for in addition to energy from the pumping action. One is the “free-air”. One is the “cooling of the rocket” by the expanded air.

The James Kwok Hidro is likely to have these two sources of energy implemented in some fashion. Not accounting for them will lead to wrong conclusions.

A true scientist should always have an open mind and open eyes. When he sees something that seems to contradict his knowledge, he should seriously investigate. Dismissing the new discovery automatically as hoax or unscientific is NOT the attitude of the true scientist.

[ltseung888]

Email from afar

Hello Tseung
No doubt you're a genius.
Very interesting story of your scientific life and ease you have to find a simpler alternative approach of looking at things.
Let me know if you have a power generating device and if you know the sale price, or assembly drawings.
Thanks.
Juan P. Jiménez



Sin duda eres un genio.
Muy interesante la historia de tu vida científica y la facilidad que tienes para buscar un planteamiento alternativo más sencillo de ver las cosas.
Quiero saber si tiene algún dispositivo generador de energía y si está a la venta saber su precio, o planos de montaje.
Gracias

With the United Nations Seminar, the knowledge will spread wide and far.

[ltseung888]

Building the Lead-out/Bring-in Energy team in USA

Building the Lead-out/Bring-in Energy team in USA

Comments: “Why do you put believing in Divine Revelations as one of the qualifications of the team members?”

Tseung: “I helped to train up at least 15 teams on Lead-Out/Bring-in Energy technology now. All these teams treated making money as more important than serving the World. When they had that frame of mind, they resorted to confidentiality. They refused to share the results with the World. Their excuse was – they needed to have the products ready.”

Comments: “Do you think you have the final answers now?”

Tseung: “I believe in Divine Revelations. Lead-out/Bring-in Energy is no longer a hypothesis. We can bring-in energy from air (tuning forks, supersoaker, Hidro). We can bring-in energy from gravitational and magnetic fields (Milkovic, Newman, Tong Wheels). We can bring-in electron motion energy (Steven Mark, FLEET, Multiple LCR resonance circuits).”

Comments: “If things are as simple as you described, why is that there are no products on the Market?”

Tseung: “It is all in God’s Timing. The standing wave from the FLEET was revealed to me and my team in July 2010. We did not recognize it. We had multiple secondary circuits on FLEET. We did not go for further research into sympathetic vibrations. We went for lighting more LEDs. The Joule Ringers from Lasersaber et al are definitely multiple LCR resonance circuits. The battery can be removed after starting. Some who saw its potential quietly disappeared to prepare for commercial products.”

Comments: “Do you think you can find a single person in USA willing to forgo the profit motive and work towards the benefit of the World?”

Tseung: “God works miracles. In the Bible, there were stories of God destroying a whole city when men become too wicked. There was the Noah’s Ark when most perished from the flood. When the seeds are sowed, some will fall on rock, some will be eaten by birds, some may fall on fertile soil.”

Comments: “Good luck with your sowing.”

When I do not seek personal benefits from the Divine Revelations, the Angels from the Lord will come. Amen.