Open Source Project for Tesla/Jackson Wireless Transmission

[Farmhand]

Hi Guy's, I was distracted when thinking of tree's, and started playing with coils and ended up looking at transmitting power.

So after reveiwing Tesla's Transmission patent here.
NIKOLA TESLA - Google Patents

And his Ignition coil patent here.
NIKOLA TESL-A - Google Patents

I came up with this circuit to do the pulsing, a mosfet switch with good gate driver and good PWM should be able to get to 200 Khz or more. The two self induction coils are four (two was easier to draw) on one form and it has a removeable core I can get from 40mH to 170mH.
http://wv0v9q.bay.livefilestore.com/...ver.JPG?psid=1

Seems to me this might work. Tesla's system is basically a ground connected logitudinal wave "exciter" for want of a better word.

I drew the spiral going all the way to the center but I intend to leave a hole so I can place another single layer cylindrical coil through the center, Maybe.

Cheers

[MonsieurM]

Awesome News Farmhand, could you try it connected to salt water or river water for a first test...I leave you with the technical details

[Farmhand]

I plan to leave a space in the center of the transmission coil so things can be inserted into it.

Like this. Don't know why yet though.
http://wv0v9q.bay.livefilestore.com/...001.JPG?psid=1

Cheers

[MonsieurM]

from the thread on water coil: maybe this should be in the center:

by Justin CHRISTOFLEAU

. I, a general view of this apparatus. . 2, a view of the apparatus in the shape of nonclosed, ready circle to receive at the center, the living organisms which one wishes to increase vitality.

In these figures the same letters of references indicate the same portions always.

This apparatus is composed of a tube A, formed by a steel wire rolled up in spiral.

Inside the formed tube by these turns, is past a copper B wire, insulated over all its length, only stripped with the two ends in order to be in contact with each of the two ends of steel tube A where it is attached, thus forming a closed circuit. In this steel tube A is also locked up a wire of soft iron C, also insulated over all its length, except at the two ends.

The operation of the apparatus is the following one:

The electricity of the atmosphere is attracted by the whole of the apparatus which forms magnetic mass and its power is increased by its passage in the steel A wire rolled up in spiral, which becomes for this cause a sensor and an amplifier of the electromagnetic forces, atmospheric electricity....
....The forms, dimensions, details and metals employed in the composition of the apparatus, can vary without changing into anything the object of the invention.

if you notice the spirally shape (which simulates the shape of a tree)
Justin CHRISTOFLEAU -- Electroculture book & patents

[Farmhand]

Awesome News Farmhand, could you try it connected to salt water or river water for a first test...I leave you with the technical details

You mean the ground connection ? Like in a drum or something, metal or plastic ? A stailess or aluminium vessel with salt water sounds good it would still be connected to ground also.

Yeah ok not sure how long it will take me to wind all the coils though. And I will need to build a circuit controller when my Mosfet driver's and stuff arrive's. For smaller coils higher frequency might be needed. Too high of a frequency make's the energy hard to recover to a usable form or store.

I think connecting the primary to the secondary is only needed in high power setups for safety. It does waste some power, a small amount at that but a bit.

I have an idea for a voltage step up on the primary using a regular inverter type circuit. But they are only idea's.

Thank's for the inspiration.

Cheers

[MonsieurM]

As a great scientist said:

You MUST keep an open mind and use these methods as those successful have already used them to achieve success. Who are you willing to believe, those who have not succeeded or those who have?
Dr. Alexander Graham Bell

[MonsieurM]

You may want to read on:

James H. ROGERS

James H. Rogers: Underground & Underwater Radio Antenna

Top photo [Photos not shown here: poor quality photocopy] shows antenna wires being placed in river by Mr Rogers’ assistants. The inventor has found that his system works just as well under water as through the earth. All of the high power stations in the world, from Nauen and Lyons to Honolulu, are heard in Mr Rogers’ laboratory at Hyattsville, MD, shown in the center and lower views herewith. The author of this article also heard the transatlantic stations coming in loud and clear. Mr Rogers invention is the greatest in the war and is so recognized by the government.

Now comes along Mr Jones with his new invention, showing us how to use a concentrated underground aerial that all of s can use in every city without any trouble whatsoever.
...One sleepless night visions began to parade before my half-conscious vision and amongst the crowd was a coil of wire rolling merrily along --- Ah! The problem was solved…

In the morning I went forth with vim and vigor to plant some coils in old Mother Earth. Finding labor scarce decided to throw them into the lake for a trial. Ouch! Then the fun began. Now to get back to business we will begin with the first experiment carried out at this lake, in order to prove my sanity.

Experiments were carried out with large square framed coils ( 200 feet to the turn, or 50 to each side of the square ) laid on the ground. This was tried for long wave undamped reception and exceptional results were had when the ground was wet, immediately after a good rain, for then the wires were practically buried. However, when the ground dried out, the signals vanished and were not received with a readable audibility. It was only necessary to have these coils buried in moist earth and excellent results have been obtained. Receiving on underground from short wavelengths with long outstretched wires demands a critical length of the wire. However on a loop or concentrated open ended coil such as mine, the length does not materially affect such reception until the length exceeds 500 feet to the coil.

And

This is a beauty, once again rexresearch never lets me down

Gordon WADLE (help you with voltage info)

Tree Electricity

[0005] A method for drawing electricity from a non-animal organism, the method including coupling a first electrical conductor to the non-animal organism, coupling a second electrical conductor to a ground rod, embedding the ground rod into soil at a predetermined depth as a function of a desired current level, whereby the current available from the non-animal organism is increased by increasing the depth that the ground rod is embedded into the soil, coupling an electrical load between the first electrical conductor and the second electrical conductor, the electrical load being configured to draw electricity from the non-animal organism via the first electrical conductor, and operating the electrical load using electricity drawn from the non-animal organism.

[0006] In general, in another aspect, the invention provides a system including a non-animal organism, a first electrical conductor electrically coupled to the non-animal organism, a plurality of ground rods embedded into soil wherein a quantity of the plurality of ground rods is a function of a desired current level from the non-animal organism, whereby the current available from the non-animal organism is increased by increasing the quantity of the plurality of ground rods, a second electrical conductor coupled to the plurality of ground rods, and an electrical load coupled between the first electrical conductor and the second electrical conductor to draw electricity from the non-animal organism, the electrical load using electricity drawn from the non-animal organism.....
....[0067] Referring to Appendix A, exemplary results of voltage yield tests from different trees using different tap configurations, different ground rod quantities, and different numbers of taps are shown. The tests were performed using the configuration shown in FIG. 1, and described in the corresponding written description, where the load was a voltmeter.....
.... POWER SOURCE
DATA COLLECTION Height
Test Time Voltage Nail Penetration Nail from No. of
No. Intervals DC Tree Type Nail Type Depth Diameter Ground Nails Soil Type Altitude

1 7:00 PM 0.9 VDC PINE STAINLESS [3/4]'' [1/8]'' 3 FT 2 LOAM
2 7:25 0.9 VDC PINE STAINLESS [3/4]'' [1/8]'' 4 FT 2 LOAM
3 7:40 0.9 VDC PINE STAINLESS [3/4]'' [1/8]'' 5 FT 2 LOAM
1 1:00 PM 1.0 VDC PINE STAINLESS [3/4]'' [1/8]'' 5 FT 2 CLAY-SAND

Gordon WADLE : Tree Electricity, Voltree Bioharvester


notice the common link...

What if your aerial antenna was the tree, and the ground antenna the water in the dam?...

hope this helps

[cody]

Farmhand,

If you are replicating the little setup that was posted in this thread then you will need higher than 200KHz, those little coils are running in the MHz. Im not sure why these guys are using the pancake coils as tesla himself switched over to a helical coils in his later designs. Also what i didnt find in the documents here on this jackson setup is the primary should be tuned to the secondary. If you use a series resonant circuit on the primary that will step the voltage up for you on the primary and also be more efficient. I have found with my setup that the more inductance the primary has and the less capacitance i use in the tank, the higher the voltage will rise on the primary. Adding the ball on top the secondary will significantly lower the resonant frequency of the secondary. This is good because the skin effect on your wire will loose a lot of power at high frequency.

[MonsieurM]

something like this:



I would like to also point out that we all live under the same resonance, Schumann resonances

see following post:

http://www.energeticforum.com/136257-post20.html

[Farmhand]

Farmhand,

If you are replicating the little setup that was posted in this thread then you will need higher than 200KHz, those little coils are running in the MHz. Im not sure why these guys are using the pancake coils as tesla himself switched over to a helical coils in his later designs. Also what i didnt find in the documents here on this jackson setup is the primary should be tuned to the secondary. If you use a series resonant circuit on the primary that will step the voltage up for you on the primary and also be more efficient. I have found with my setup that the more inductance the primary has and the less capacitance i use in the tank, the higher the voltage will rise on the primary. Adding the ball on top the secondary will significantly lower the resonant frequency of the secondary. This is good because the skin effect on your wire will loose a lot of power at high frequency.

No I'm not replicating it. I'll just do what I think will work for me. I intend to try both helical and spiral transmission/receiver coil's. And some other thing's.
Including series inductor's/choke's like you say.

Driving the primary open ended into a capacitor or similar is a prospect too. I seem to have attained some kind of resonance with a dodgy test setup i'm playing with now. The capacitance at the open end of the primary seems to reflect the energy and if the frequency is tuned a sweetspot for the system can be found at very low frequency well under 10 Khz. But I admit it is not as easy as all that and I agree with your evaluation of the required tank circuit for maximum effect, but I'm not sure a helical coil will be better, I was thinking Conical Coils would be best. Maybe you are correct there too. I won't discount that at all. Thank's for the tips.

Cheers

P.S. I have a video uploading.

[Farmhand]

I also just realised that with wireless transmission of power we may only be able to expect to receive with any one reiceiver station the same wattage as is input into the transmitter minus transmission losses.

For example if I put 1 ampere at 12 volts "12 watts" into the generator then each receiver station could only have access to 12 watts of power. And that may well be restricted to one receiver station. If two receiver stations were used I imagine to get 12 watts from each one then 24 watts would need to be put into the generator plus losses of course.

After all it is transmission of power not "broadcasting". If in fact multiple receivers can all draw 12 watts each from a 12 watt input at the transmitter then I would be suitably impressed.

I think the trick is getting free power to transmitt in the first place.

If multiple receivers could be used then we should be able to transmitt the power back to ourselve's to power the generator. Oh my.
Through a delay loop of course involving another transmitter and local receiver tuned to a different wave.

Back to square one. Hahaha I will proceed. First video upload failed when i lost my network connection for a while.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

Transmission Loops.

If infact multiple receivers could draw power at a multiple gain then a system like this could be used.

http://wv0v9q.bay.livefilestore.com/...001.JPG?psid=1

A transmission loop with two differntly tuned transmission/receiving circuits at each location and one generator for each location. After an initial priming and power transmission the loop could be established and only a small maintaining input would be required, this could be collected from a dedicated radiant energy collector like a solar array or something if necessary depending on if there is any actual base power gain, if so it would need to wasted out of the system somehow.

Cheers

[MonsieurM]

You have just Fractalized it or should I say constructilized it...


the constructal law says (applies for trees and water as well)

The constructal law puts forth the idea that the generation of design (configuration, pattern, geometry) in nature is a physics phenomenon that unites all animate and inanimate systems, and that this phenomenon is covered by the Constructal Law stated by Adrian Bejan in 1996: "For a finite-size (flow) system to persist in time (to live), its configuration must evolve such that it provides easier access to the imposed currents that flow through it."

just repeat the G,T,R tryptic, only weaker and smaller

[MonsieurM]

Just wanted to add one more think about using a helical antenna, stumbled on it while reading through LCR circuit:

Helical resonator

A helical resonator is a passive electrical component that can be used as a filter. Physically, a helical resonator is a wire helix surrounded by a square or cylindrical conductive shield. Like cavity resonators, helical resonators can achieve Q factors in the 1000s. This is because at high frequencies, the skin effect results in most of the current flowing on the surface of the helix and shield. Plating the shield walls and helix with high conductivity materials increases the Q beyond that of bare copper.

The length of wire is one quarter of the wavelength of interest. The helix is space wound, the gap between turns is equal to diameter of the wire. Helical resonators are well suited to UHF frequencies ranging from 600 MHz to 1500 MHz.

RF Cafe - Helical Resonator Design for Filters Equations Formulas Charts Graphs



I refer you to post#4

excuse my ignorance but is it possible to have a small rlc circuit sitting on top of a large rlc?

what made me think of that is the pic i posted earlier:

[cody]

something like this:

Yea that will work too, but i wouldnt make the primary like that if your just driving it from a function gen. I like to use that type of secondary because its an easy and cheap way to get the coil down to a low enough frequency to still get away with using thin wire and you can get a lot of turns on it to ramp up the voltage nicely. But its still not ideal and not exactly what tesla was doing, he did however like to use those tall close wound secondarys for recieving coils during his testing. Here is his design:









This as Im sure most of you know was his last patented design for the transmitter. Some parts are not drawn properly to scale but this you get the idea. If you read through the colorado springs notes you will see the dimensions of the coils he was using.





Here is the actual pic from colorado in which you are looking at the coils to scale from the diagram above. He is sitting by the secondary, and that thing in the background that looks like a fence is the bottom part of the secondary and the primary. Quite different from the usual tesla coils most build.