Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[Shadesz]

Hi, the core material is E160/M6/30, grain-oriented transformer I laminations.

I haven't tried getting the effect with ferrite as i haven't had much joy from ferrite.

Because my setup is a diametric magnet, though, there is one major flaw, that is that there is no moment for a coil when there is no magnetic field cutting it, because my magnet IS the rotor, so as soon as you try to have more than two coils things get spoilt because one coil always has a half North/half South field cutting it, which screws with the direction of the current and cancels out the other two coils when connected in series.

Couldn't you create two circuits with 4 coils? I mean couldn't you connect the coils directly apart from each other in series, and on a separate circuit connect the other two circuits (also across from each other) in series? That way you get the correct timing but 4 coils...

[MonsieurM]

I thought you guys might be interested in the vids posted by Duncan

from:http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post165319

Those who have read my inane scribble before would be aware that I try and follow the thinking the actions and even the good fortune of the “inventors” I also because of crass ignorance am forced to follow the unscientific route of “instinct” so what I write here may or may not help you It is however food for thought. And I rather hope It will trigger a flash in one of you.
You are dealing with high speed interacting magnetic fields this video link .gogreenbuildyourownmotionlesssolidstatefreeenergy. flv - YouTube was originally posted by someone called “mindfreer” from there I would like you to try to link (mentally) to this MindFreer's Channel - YouTube a/ also mindfree'r b/ rapidly moving magnetic flux and c/ This video has also been erased off you tube
There have been very few successful replications because a quirk of the system is the first drive has to be speed controllable and very efficient.
That led me to consider where the origins of this machine might have been formed and that leads to some almost forgotten work done in the 1950s combining the observation and experimentation of a French Prof Professor Maurice Allais - a genius before his time - as are they all Who noticed and then proved an anomaly in the action of the simple pendulum The work of the good prof was picked up by a particularly skilled watch and Clockmaker who went on to construct a mini mechanical universe complete with gravity and magnetism
In order to prove the work of Prof Allais. This work drives a coach and horses through current teaching.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...6/IMG00066.GIF
Raoul Hatem made no attempt to patent his OU work who's benefit to the public good is obvious .
neither did he wish to attract the attention of of the American sharks and so for a long time he has been helping people install multi KW working systems like this one
https://picasaweb.google.com/1024132...98427564668818


Unfortunately certain American “concerns” have got to hear and taken an interest in the system and have been trying to patent and profit from it (or bury it). This has forced a very reluctant Leon to patent the system. Himself after some 50 years.and hundreds of working systems.New Free Energy by George Mitchell - YouTube repulsive un ? yeh tell your president Mayer did!
It would however be very pleasant to be able to get to a standard mathematical base and so make a static version (which I believe is exactly what you are working on) The advantage seems to come from forced forward synchronous slip, although that’s a contradiction in terms I have no other language available.

It is the foundation of this free energy we want if its for this machine or your static version. Leon explains in simple terms of comparison here
Given That Leon now understood the relationship between Gravity and Magnetism he went on to build a machine of this Ilk in the 1950s although this of course is a more recent re-incarnation of his.

Leon Raoul HATEM -- magnet motor according to Leon's work from the main drive each generator going back through the series uses power relative to the Fibonacci series 1, ½, ¼, ect
in other words a generator supplying 4kw in position 3 would demand 1Kw from the load.
My French Isn't of the first water but here is my translation of Leon's vectors of force in red of the relevent drawings in the above link (for what its worth) the first attempt is google automatic translator

If slippage, this configuration will tend to accelerate the phenomenon at each magnet.
If they are all the same orientation, a loving blue will look for any red magnet

At rest (a) the magnets of both the drive and the slave rotor will fall into balanced equilibration at a point of equal attraction.
When the driven rotor is turned (b) there must be a certain amount of slip between the drive and the slave, The tendency is for the slave to accelerate in an impossible attempt to come into synchronous lock with the drive.
Of course should the drive be accelerated to fast or the load be increased to fast beyond a certain point the synchronous link is lost.

If the magnets are still an attraction, but the alternation create a sort of detent natural limit slippage.
The magnet blue central line is red attracts the magnet on the left, but if there is slippage, not only the magnet will retain the red blue, but the magnets are in the same orientation is also pushing to participate in maintaining magnet blue right in his window.

Whilst it is difficult at first sight to deduce a mathematical foundation for this natural acceleration effect in the first instance. It is possible to make a direct comparison of magnetic forces by alternating the magnetic poles. At rest (a) the driven rotor and the slave are again in balanced equilibrium.
However when being driven and slippage occurs there is natural cogging and the tendency is to retard.
Now girls and boys I'm sure you’ve detected that I have been forced to corrupt English with “forward slippage” almost as much as I've been forced to corrupt and butcher this poor guys French
and so.”To do” “forward slippage” in the language of maths is certainly out of my reach.
I'm reasonably sure this is a mechanical incarnation of what you are doing statically .. can anyone else make the mathematical connection that is out of my grasp?
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Principle of Mentalism: the Universe is all Wave....

thank you for the lesson

ps: the same principle you mention works as well for a Muller generator

[qvision]

Hey Shadesz, good to hear from you

Yes it was all at 18 volts, apart from when i did staged voltage tests and found odd behaviour, like unshorting the coil and the rotor didn't drop down back to it's open-circuit frequency ...

I'm still waiting on my good quality but very slow CNC man to poast my new endplates for the frame then it's Muller Time, as i believe they say in the USA ;+}

Glad to hear of your continuing success in education, good luck with the summer research program.

Best to all.

[qvision]

The new test-bed for a multi-magnet setup is now ready :

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...1/DSC01475.jpg

24 neos 10x10mm, N42, 0.52 Tesla going North/South around the rotor.

Same drive coil/circuitry before, a-la-Bedini SSG with the charging component removed.


Wil post results,

[ekomotor]

Universal 3A DC Power Supply : InCar Power Adaptors : Maplin

Please help me with this adapter,..........
I live in Croatia and I am not able to obtain the adapter, I would ask you if someone can help me.
Thanks

[qvision]

I have one of those brand new, unused. You can have it for the cost of the postage and packing. I am on PayPal.

[Dave45]

What happened to Toranarod.

[ekomotor]

Ok Qvision, send me how much it will cost all together I'll have to buy for shure i have Mastercard.
Thanks
My e-mail : miljenko.sinjeri@kc.htnet.hr
i have PayPal too

[Shadesz]

What happened to Toranarod.

I'm guessing he burned out. He hit this project sooooooo hard (good for him)! I reckon he is still tinkering with it, just at a more sustainable pace. Nothing super exciting to report so no news posted here.

disclaimer... the above is my speculation. I have not contacted him personally as of late.

[142857]

What happened to Toranarod.

perhaps he was successful and silenced.......maybe he figured out that romero was full of it....

[toranarod]

I'm guessing he burned out. He hit this project sooooooo hard (good for him)! I reckon he is still tinkering with it, just at a more sustainable pace. Nothing super exciting to report so no news posted here.

disclaimer... the above is my speculation. I have not contacted him personally as of late.

Hello All.
I am still working on energy and my motors are sitting on the bench looking at me.
I have been tooling making some new equipment for the generator work. There where a few problems with my controller I needed to sort out. I just finished rewriting the software in my PWM controller have been waiting on some equipment to come in and in the mean time I got distracted by the HHO stuff.
I make HHO fuel cells and Stan Myers mark space PWM for HHO gas production. This keeps me very busy.
All my time is mostly dedicated to alternative energy.
You are right I do burn out on type of system so I take a break and work on something else. Sometimes I go back to my fixed magnet motor or I build hydrogen water cells.
Or put up more solar cells in my back yard.

Hello Shadesz did you finish that circuit I sent you?

I am always dropping in and having a look at what going on. Has anybody had any new break thoughts lately any new experiments I have missed.

There is no way I have ever given up. You all have been good friends and I have enjoyed working with all of you so not going any where just on a break.

Cheers Rod

[frenky]

Universal 3A DC Power Supply : InCar Power Adaptors : Maplin

Please help me with this adapter,..........
I live in Croatia and I am not able to obtain the adapter, I would ask you if someone can help me.
Thanks

I have two and I can send you one for free if you give your word that you will share your findings with this community.

Pozdrav iz Slovenije

[ekomotor]

Ljep pozdrav Frenky
Imas gore moj mail pa mi posalji svoj da se dogovorimo o isporuci ipak si ti puno blize meni .............
Naravno da djelim svoje radove na youtubu
msinjeriekoeko's Channel - YouTube


Nicer greeting Frenky
You have up my mail and I send her to agree on the delivery, however you are much closer to me .............
Of course, that the acts of his work on youtube.

[pmgriphone]

hello Elias
Here are some photos of what i saying before about coil inductance being a dynamic effect. Note the meter and the coil with core no core and then magnets.

Hi Toranarod,

This finding is very important: dependence of inductance on magnet nearby.

If you have the time you should document the exact change of L as a function of the magnet position. You can do the following experiment:

Move the magnet TDC (top dead center) to the coil with MU core.

Use your existing setup so you can fairly accurately determine angle (please provide angle and radius so I can estimate arc-distance from TDC). Call TDC zero angle

At TDC, the measured L value should be a minimum (based on your pictures above). Then rotate the rotator by a small angle (moving the magnet off TDC and record that angle and new L value. Keep on taking measurements on both sides of TDC (results should be symmetric) and record angle (from TDC) and L value. You only need to increase the angle until you measure the L value of the standalone coil with MU core (no magnet near it).

Please post the results and I will do some simulations with them.

PmgR

[toranarod]

I thought so

things are moving a bit slower at the moment on this thread I see.
I Have recorded many similar effects with the coils.
That's why I posted this in the beginning